12:08 LOTUS
No, Season 12 Episode 8 "LOTUS" is not about a flower, but instead about the time that Lucifer possessed the president? They didn't! But they did. We discuss that and all the other madness of this episode. In keeping with the British secret society theme, Liz tells the story of the most boring sex magic society ever - The Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor (HB of L).
Research Links
- Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor - Wikipedia
- The Occult in Nineteenth-Century America (2005, Davies Group) - Libgen - Li | PDF | Western Esotericism | Freemasonry
- 23. The Brotherhood of Luxor — Ordo ab Chao
- Order of the Golden and Rosy Cross - Wikipedia
- Straight Dope Staff Report: What is Rosicrucianism all about?
Transcript
On this week's episode of devil's trap podcast.
Speaker A:From potus to lotus.
Speaker B:And is lucifer's baby a sex magic baby?
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:And I'm Liz.
Speaker A:And we're going to Talk Season 12, Episode 8, Lotus Lotus.
Speaker B:I'm sitting in lotus position.
Speaker A:Are you?
Speaker B:Actually, I am, except my hands aren't in that position.
Speaker B:Now they are.
Speaker B:Okay, now I'm in lotus.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B:That's how we're starting this.
Speaker A:I'm not allowed.
Speaker B:No, I think your knee would.
Speaker B:I don't think your knee would actually do that.
Speaker B:I mean, go in that position.
Speaker A:I mean, it might.
Speaker A:I've got pretty good flexibility, but it would not feel good because I tried to do butterfly stretch and I was like, nope, not doing that.
Speaker B:I'd be so sad.
Speaker B:That's my favorite stretch.
Speaker A:Well, I have to modify and just do like, you know, with your, like, angled out and then stretch forward instead of butterfly.
Speaker A:So you lose part of it, but you get some of it.
Speaker A:But yeah, so it's a.
Speaker A:It's a lot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So what have you been up to?
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:Nothing exciting.
Speaker B:And I hate.
Speaker B:He was like, oh, this is always such a fun way to start a podcast.
Speaker B:Not doing anything.
Speaker B:But it's just it.
Speaker B:Once again, I think it's just because it's January and it's.
Speaker B:It's just gross and I don't want to do anything.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:And I'm kind of mad when I have to do something.
Speaker B:Like, I don't.
Speaker B:I'm very excited that I don't think I have to leave tomorrow.
Speaker B:And if I have to leave my house or something, I'm going to be pissed off.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, it's been gross and it's because it's January and it's about to be grosser weather wise.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, I. I had the revelation that I think it's been a full.
Speaker A:It's been over 30 days since I've live music, which sounds weird if you're not me.
Speaker A:And that's crazy talk.
Speaker A:But, yeah.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I mean, I went out to dinner.
Speaker A:That's kind of my kind of excitement these days.
Speaker B:Oh, please.
Speaker B:I don't even go out to dinner.
Speaker B:So I was like, I went to a. I went to a grocery store.
Speaker B:It's closer to that.
Speaker B:Or sometimes, you know, I had Uber eats bring me stuff from a.
Speaker B:From a restaurant.
Speaker B:That's like going out to dinner.
Speaker A:That's close.
Speaker A:It was my Favorite wine shop and had a glass of wine.
Speaker A:That was nice.
Speaker B:That sounds nice.
Speaker A:Yeah, you know, little things, little neighborhood spots.
Speaker A:So it was fine.
Speaker A:But, yeah, there we go.
Speaker A:That's my excitement.
Speaker B:That's all I got.
Speaker A:All right, Party time.
Speaker B:Parties.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:And there's no.
Speaker B:There's no news in the boys land.
Speaker B:I looked them up yesterday.
Speaker B:Nothing new.
Speaker B:Nothing new and nothing new on the Jared Padalecki broken leg front.
Speaker A:Someday we'll find out.
Speaker B:Someday we'll find out.
Speaker B:Keep saying, come on.
Speaker B:Come on the podcast, Jared, and tell us what happened.
Speaker B:So let's just dive into Lotus.
Speaker B:So the word title, Lotus is obviously a play.
Speaker B:They said it in the episode, and it is a play on potus.
Speaker B:And I do think it's kind of funny.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:This was season 12, episode 8.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:I'm no longer going to attempt to pronounce his last name.
Speaker B:And it.
Speaker B:This was his first episode this season.
Speaker B:Last season, he did four episodes, including the season finale, Alpha, Alpha and Omega.
Speaker B:So this is the first time we saw Phil this season.
Speaker B:This was written by Eugenie Ross Lemming and Brad Buckner.
Speaker B:And this season they already did Mamma Mia.
Speaker B:Which was episode two.
Speaker B:And so we're bringing them back with.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, there really isn't.
Speaker B:I was going to say a Mary theme, but there isn't a Mary theme in this.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Nope, they're just coming back.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:All right, so we start with our recap, and we start off with the accident with the British Men of letters and Mr. Catch, and we get Rowena and her fleeing Lucifer events and him out events.
Speaker B:Then Cass just taking all the responsibility again for no reason.
Speaker B:Why he thinks he's responsible for all of Lucifer.
Speaker B:I just still don't.
Speaker B:Do not understand.
Speaker B:And we'll continue to debate.
Speaker B:And then Crowley and Cass together again.
Speaker B:Yay.
Speaker A:And so we go to a.
Speaker A:A. I mean, it's a cat.
Speaker A:There's a Catholic priest.
Speaker B:It is the diocese.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But at first, like, my notes are like, church convent.
Speaker A:I'm like, what is this place?
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:But what it actually is is The Archdiocese of St. Louis.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And we got a priest that's listening to the news, and the bishop walks by, and, you know he's the bishop because he's in red.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker A:And he's like, turn it off.
Speaker A:As they tell a story about Mr. Parker passing away.
Speaker A:And apparently Mr. Parker was a big donor to the archdiocese and a friend of the bishops.
Speaker A:And so the Priest quickly turns the radio off, and we see the bishop walk down the hallway.
Speaker A:And as his walking, all the crosses and crucifixes turn upside down.
Speaker B:It's such a good effect.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:Really well.
Speaker B:And then his eyes close red and it's, oh, Lucifer, you devil.
Speaker A:You know, so super well done.
Speaker A:So we go to.
Speaker A:Sam and Dean are at the morgue in Oklahoma.
Speaker A:And the.
Speaker A:The guy working the morgue, assistant guy at the morgue is like, yeah, your colleague's already inside.
Speaker A:Who's already inside.
Speaker B:Inside is Cass and Crowley.
Speaker B:And they're suited up next to a body.
Speaker B:And Dean is just like.
Speaker B:And he rips a badge off of Crowley's Armani Su suit.
Speaker B:And now we have all of them together surrounding a body.
Speaker A:This is Wallace Parker.
Speaker A:He was the CEO of quote, almost everything.
Speaker A:And his eyes have been burned out as he was obviously another failed Lucifer vessel.
Speaker A:And Crowley's like, yeah, this is obviously our.
Speaker B:Our what?
Speaker A:We're seeing Lucifer up the game and up the level of his selection of vessels, which we knew was going to happen after Vance.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And I would say I'm not sure I would use failed vessels anymore.
Speaker B:I think he's just burning them through.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like he's, you know, or just going through them so fast that then they burn out, you know?
Speaker A:You know, just.
Speaker B:I mean, they're gonna fail anyways.
Speaker B:But does that make you.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, is he just throwing them away?
Speaker B:Yeah, he's just using them up quickly.
Speaker B:And just like that, I'm done with you.
Speaker B:I don't want to be an archbishop anymore.
Speaker A:Discarding the vessels as he goes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we do hear Cass call Crowley, Agent Zappa, and they agree that Lucifer is getting more dangerous.
Speaker A:And Dean is so annoyed by all of this.
Speaker B:He is.
Speaker A:So we go back to the bunker and they're having beers and looking at, like, who else powerful could Lucifer possibly ry to be in next?
Speaker A:And that's when Sam finds out a picture of the bishop in St. Louis with.
Speaker A:With park, Mr. Parker, getting.
Speaker A:Receiving the donation.
Speaker A:And they're like, well, so there's like, this is this.
Speaker A:If you look at other pictures of this bishop, he was smiling before, and then he stopped smiling.
Speaker A:And he stops wearing a cross and has canceled all of his public appearances.
Speaker A:So apparently the bishop might be Lucifer now.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So they did.
Speaker B:That is what they deduce.
Speaker B:So now we're going to go back to the Archdiocese of St. Louis.
Speaker B:And baby pulls in and it's raining, and they didn't Decide to go the priest route, which is kind of funny.
Speaker B:Like, I think, you know, they had shown up as.
Speaker B:I would have gone with that, but they decided, you know, for Sam and Dean, like.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think, you know, this is an appropriate time to knock those cast.
Speaker B:You bring those Catholics out, but instead they're seated up as feds.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just like, you get busted for faking, but I think.
Speaker B:I think it's a challenge.
Speaker B:Anyways, so.
Speaker B:But when they get there, they try the bell and the knocker and nobody answers.
Speaker B:So they go on in.
Speaker A:There's like, no power, it seems like, in the building.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:They come, and then they figure the power is off.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they go inside and they quickly find our priest that we saw earlier bleeding on the floor.
Speaker A:And he does not look like he's in very good shape at all.
Speaker A:And he's telling them that he knew something was wrong.
Speaker A:He saw the crosses turning down the hallway after the bishop walked by.
Speaker A:But apparently staff wanted to handle this internally and even tried an exorcism.
Speaker A:And then they leave this guy bleeding on the floor and walk away.
Speaker B:You know, because it's Sam and Dean, so it's like, he couldn't die anyways.
Speaker B:It's fine.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But then we get to see the.
Speaker B:The rest of the carnage.
Speaker B:And there is so much.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think this would make some people really uncomfortable.
Speaker B:But there is a dead nun, and she is very dead.
Speaker B:And then there's a priest who is impaled.
Speaker B:Impaled.
Speaker B:That is a good.
Speaker B:Because I was like.
Speaker A:Was like.
Speaker B:But it's also very exorcisty.
Speaker B:That is very similar to the way one of the priests in the Exorcist.
Speaker B:Or not Exorcist.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:Me.
Speaker B:Salem's Lot, where that's how the vampires in Salem's Lot were killed.
Speaker B:In one of them, it was.
Speaker B:I think it.
Speaker B:May I just have his image of a priest impaled like that.
Speaker B:So one of those two movies anyways.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And then they were like, oh, yeah.
Speaker B:All these crosses are upside down.
Speaker B:So they noticed that too.
Speaker B:And then the Nether room, they're like, oh, no.
Speaker B:What's this red robe over here?
Speaker A:And it is the burned out vessel of our bishop.
Speaker B:Too late.
Speaker A:So anyways, yeah.
Speaker A:It's not a great scenario they're in.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We go from that to a man in pajamas who is praying.
Speaker B:But unfortunately, he.
Speaker B:He's praying to Lucifer.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He just doesn't know.
Speaker A:You can tell.
Speaker A:And he is like, oh, yeah, we're gonna bring the truce.
Speaker A:You Promise you're gonna bring true spiritual healing.
Speaker A:It's like my partner.
Speaker A:Hallel, Hallelujah.
Speaker A:And then he says, I humbly accept your guidance.
Speaker A:And then we have.
Speaker A:A white light flows into him as his bodyguard sits in the next room.
Speaker A:And now he has red eyes.
Speaker A:Well, who's this guy?
Speaker A:Who could he possibly be?
Speaker A:And then he looks.
Speaker A:He gets up and he looks at his reflection and starts having a conversation with himself.
Speaker A:And this is really well done and really creepy all at once, because it is basically the vessel and Lucifer having a conversation in the mirror with themselves.
Speaker A:And it's like, basically Lucifer is like, I'm gonna give you a little more control than normal.
Speaker A:Because I don't know this job or how to do this to make it convincing, because it's super high profile.
Speaker A:But, you know, well, that's way.
Speaker A:That's the only way I can deliver on all the stuff I promised you.
Speaker B:And again, it's like Lucifer not playing guitar.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Okay, so Lucifer basically is going inside Jeff's head.
Speaker B:And so he's in there and he's giving him the lowdown about all the events that are coming up until the Secret Service come in and they're like.
Speaker B:And sees Jeff talking to himself.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the guard sees the.
Speaker A:Sees him talking about how he's got it.
Speaker A:People have to believe that I'm the President of the United States and is freaked out.
Speaker A:So Lucifer looks over, red eyes glow.
Speaker A:And he kills the guy.
Speaker B:Kills the secretary, force chokes him to death.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's sad.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:So we cut to a scene right away of the body being rolled out and President.
Speaker A:President Jeff, Lucifer.
Speaker A:What I wrote down is lying.
Speaker A:There's a group around him, and he's lying, but he's telling story about how, like, oh, we were talking about different types of barbecue, and I went to the restroom.
Speaker A:When I came out, he was dead.
Speaker A:I tried cpr.
Speaker B:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:Anyways, they all eat it right up.
Speaker A:And this lady that's on the team is like, oh, well, it's clear that he had a massive cerebral hemorrhage.
Speaker A:We'll need, you know, we'll do an autopsy, but there's obviously no signs of foul play.
Speaker A:Totally fine.
Speaker A:And then a female member of the staff is like, you should say a few words to the man upstairs like you do every morning, and hands him a Bible.
Speaker A:They all start.
Speaker A:They all kneel to pray.
Speaker A:So as we watch the Bible slightly burning Lucifer's hand, he is awkwardly starting his prayer about, you know, how they're all babies trying to work, walk up.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But they need the father to be there when they fall.
Speaker A:And they lost a brother today.
Speaker A:But tomorrow, they'll continue their work.
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we go from there to the bunker, and Cass is looking at crime scene photos, and he just thinks that level of violence is just unnecessary, necessary.
Speaker B:And I would agree.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Sam's just like, okay, well, we got to think about, where is Lucifer now?
Speaker B:Where would Lucifer go?
Speaker A:So we cut back to we are.
Speaker A:We now know.
Speaker A:We are at the Forester Estate presidential compound, and we've got this woman.
Speaker A:That was her name.
Speaker A:We find out her name is Kelly.
Speaker A:She's kind of like.
Speaker A:Seems to be like a Chief of staff ish type person.
Speaker B:Yeah, Chief of staff aid, whatever.
Speaker A:And she's kind of leading this meeting, talking about the breakdown of negotiations in Belarus and asked the President if it's time to call the UN and he suggests instead that they nuke them.
Speaker A:And no one is amused.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oddly enough, most people don't take that as a joke from the President of the United States.
Speaker B:Go figure.
Speaker B:And the staff, like.
Speaker B:And then they all exit, and then Kelly follows.
Speaker B:Kelly follows.
Speaker B:And she runs up to catch up with Lucifer to tell him the latest pol poll numbers, and he's the most popular sitting president in modern history.
Speaker A:And then they're gonna go have sexy time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because she kicks auto the room and they have sex, and then they have awkward pillow talk where she wishes their love could be public and that they could be a real couple.
Speaker B:And then she makes it really awkward by, like, talking about babies and how he would be an amazing father.
Speaker A:I will say, to be clear, it's not because President Jeff was cheating.
Speaker A:He's a widower.
Speaker A:They do note that.
Speaker A:Not that Lucifer would care.
Speaker A:I'm just saying that that was a. Yeah.
Speaker A:But yes.
Speaker A:She makes it super weird talking about babies right there.
Speaker A:They want to be a real couple.
Speaker A:And he's just smiling about the baby talk.
Speaker A:So that's interesting.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we see that are the.
Speaker A:The woman who reported on the cause of death of our other Secret Service agent is now standing at this abandoned farmhouse, and Crowley shows up, and she calls him your Majesty.
Speaker A:And so now we know she's working for Crowley.
Speaker A:And he's like, oh, you might be able to earn back your soul if you help us.
Speaker A:And she's like, look, there was a death.
Speaker A:And I ascribed it to natural causes, but it was anything but.
Speaker A:So now we know that she is reporting to Crowley where Lucifer is.
Speaker A:But anyways, Back at the bunker, Dean has powered down the warding because Crowley has big news and he is coming to tell them.
Speaker B:So the failing is the warning was actually on.
Speaker B:And so you actually had a security system working at the bunker for a change.
Speaker B:I'm very shocked here.
Speaker A:Weird.
Speaker A:When.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm like, they turned it off.
Speaker A:That means it was on.
Speaker B:That you turned it on at some point.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker B:When did you do that?
Speaker B:Like, I thought everybody, anybody could just walk the bunker.
Speaker B:As was last season.
Speaker B:Like when the Frankenfurters went in there, you know.
Speaker B:Anyhow, so Sam wants to keep Crowley at a distance and.
Speaker B:But he just pops in and of course overhears him say.
Speaker B:Talking about him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is not off.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:But that's all right.
Speaker A:He's got.
Speaker A:He's got.
Speaker A:He's got news.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And because he has operatives, even though he can't go to his own palace.
Speaker A:And so anyways, Crowley's gonna go get on Sam's laptop because he knows the identity of Lucifer's newest vessel and shows them the picture of President Jefferson Rooney.
Speaker B:President Jeff.
Speaker A:So we know where Lucifer is.
Speaker A:And back at that estate, we've got President, President Jeff, Lucifer.
Speaker A:I was calling him, telling.
Speaker A:Telling his Secret Service dude, Rick, that he's got this super confidential situation.
Speaker A:There are two mentally unstable, possibly cult members with assassination plans.
Speaker A:Because I'm Satan.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:They think he's Satan and not metaphorically.
Speaker B:And the agent gets to talk about how Satan isn't real.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which is hilarious.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To do that to Satan.
Speaker B:But also, you know, Sam and Dean Winchester.
Speaker B:And as we will.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:You know, if you describe them to anybody else, they would sound insane.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And so basically, he just has to describe literally who they are.
Speaker B:And they're like, these folks are crazy.
Speaker B:Should we just.
Speaker B:And then they're just like, should we just kill them?
Speaker B:I'm like, whoa, Secret Service.
Speaker B:This is not what you're supposed to do.
Speaker A:That's not how that usually goes.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, but they want to handle it.
Speaker A:The Secret Service.
Speaker A:Only that's a quiet in the family job.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's weird.
Speaker B:No, it's not good.
Speaker B:It's dark site government.
Speaker B:Like, no, that's not great.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But so that happens.
Speaker B:And then we go to the bunker and Sam has gotten so desperate that he is going to call Mick Davies.
Speaker B:But he doesn't answer.
Speaker A:He doesn't answer.
Speaker A:She gets the voicemail and just hangs up.
Speaker A:So Cass and Dean are talking.
Speaker A:And the fact they've.
Speaker A:They're discussing that even with Rowena Lucifer can't be returned to the cage while he's in his vessel.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, this is like the perfect safe house that.
Speaker A:That Lucifer's in, though I don't know how we're gonna get in there.
Speaker A:So they're discussing how it's even possible to get there because, you know, with this fundraising jaunt that the President, quote, unquote, is on and looking at all his, you know, this freaking forester estate owned by this hedge fund guy outside of Indianapolis, and how much security is there?
Speaker A:So they need another plan.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or need a plan, because it's really hard to get to a high value asset like this.
Speaker B:So then we go from there.
Speaker B:All of a sudden, we get to take a wonderful trip to Florida.
Speaker B:And in Florida, we find out that Rowena's cash cow has been stepping out on her.
Speaker B:You bastard.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Louise Lou's not being faithful to Rowena.
Speaker A:He's also seeing Mona, who's.
Speaker A:His heart is fond, but he couldn't vet really Rowena's background.
Speaker A:It was kind of sus between her assets and ballet.
Speaker A:And they both just accused each other of scamming the other, basically.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And then Crowley shows up and.
Speaker B:And firstly, he thinks that he's basically there to get his dry cleaning and.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And she's yelling at him to get out, and he is like, it's his place.
Speaker B:And then Crowley pops him all over her.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He goes floaty.
Speaker A:And she says, it's the sweetest thing you've ever done for me, as she's covered in Louie's blood and guts.
Speaker B:Oh, so nice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we go back to President Lucifer and Kelly in bed together.
Speaker A:And she doesn't want to laugh, but things just feel different.
Speaker A:It's great, but she just can't describe something's changed.
Speaker A:And they make out and cuddle.
Speaker B:So we go from there back to the bunker and everything has gone all wonky for Cass.
Speaker B:And he drops his coffee mugs.
Speaker B:And it's because something has happened.
Speaker B:All over Angel Radio.
Speaker A:A Nephilim has come into being, which is, as a reminder, is the offspring between an angel and a human and is considered an abomination.
Speaker B:And at some point, we'll come to the lore about what Nephilim are, because that's.
Speaker B:That's not exactly correct.
Speaker A:It's sort of.
Speaker B:It's kind of correct.
Speaker B:But they're supposed to be giants anyways, but we're not there yet anyway, so the power to produce that is so immense.
Speaker B:And it's more than What a typical angel could do.
Speaker A:So it had to be Lucifer.
Speaker A:And Dean didn't know he was dating because Dean's got jokes.
Speaker A:So they are driving to Indianapolis because this is a crisis.
Speaker A:So Sam is asking Crowley to see if the mole knows of any girlfriend or mistresses or hookers or anything.
Speaker A:Because Crowley and Arena are going to meet them in Indianapolis.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:And as they're going, a cot spot.
Speaker B:Cop spots them.
Speaker B:Cop them as they are going down the road.
Speaker B:And he, like, they light him up because it.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:Because baby is not inconspicuous.
Speaker B:They are not inconspicuous.
Speaker B:So as we have learned on the show before, if you're trying to hide from the government, maybe not drive that Impala around, but then also, like, if you get pulled over by whoever, maybe jumping out of the car this way isn't, like, the best way to approach them, but that's what they choose to do.
Speaker A:They, like, jump out of the car and start flashing their fake badges.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that doesn't really work with the Secret Service.
Speaker A:Secret Service is not into that at all.
Speaker A:But they also know who the Winchesters are, so they know everyone's finger just.
Speaker B:Tightened up when they were like, yeah.
Speaker B:Winchesters are like, oh, shit.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Dean punches Rick, Sam gets in a fight with them.
Speaker A:And then, blah, blah, blah, guns get pulled.
Speaker A:Sam and Dean are being held at gunpoint.
Speaker A:Castiel casually gets out of the car.
Speaker A:And as this is all going down, a Bentley rolls up with Take 5 by Dave Berbeck blaring so loud you can hear it outside the car.
Speaker B:And it's very weird to have a jazz song stuck in your head.
Speaker B:And it's stuck in my fucking head right now.
Speaker A:And then we see our.
Speaker A:A man get out of the vehicle, a person get out of the vehicle, gets in the trunk, gets a giant grenade launcher.
Speaker B:And his own trunk, by the way.
Speaker B:So I would say this is like a special trunk.
Speaker B:A trunk.
Speaker B:Trunk adjacent.
Speaker A:I don't know, the neighbor trunk.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:We'll have to come up with a term for it.
Speaker A:And shoots a grenade launcher at the Secret Service vehicle.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And everybody smart ducks for cover, and he tells the angel to wipe their memories.
Speaker B:And after being rudely asked by Dean who he is, he introduces himself as Arthur Ketch, Britishman of Letters.
Speaker B:And so that's our secret Lores theme.
Speaker B:We're gonna have some jazz playing in there now, I think.
Speaker B:But, yeah.
Speaker B:So as I said earlier this season, there's a kind of a running theme to the season that's the British Men of Letters.
Speaker B:And along with that, there is a secret society in Britain that we are leading up to, and that's the Hermetic Brotherhood of the golden dawn or Diana Hood, I don't know.
Speaker B:Yeah, but so the golden dawn, and we're not quite there yet.
Speaker B:We still have.
Speaker B:We're still talking about another secret society because there's just so many of them at this time.
Speaker B:Victorians loved a secret society and we're going to talk about one of the precursors to the golden dawn who produced some of their members, and that's the HB of L. You had to become a member of the HB of L to learn what that meant, but it really.
Speaker B:It's supposedly stood for the Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor.
Speaker B:Right, okay.
Speaker B: y, but it was sometime around: Speaker B:None of these are their real names.
Speaker B:Maybe Peter Davidson's, but.
Speaker B:So Max Theon had many aliases and he taught a sex magic via a combination of Kabbalistic and Vedic elements blended into a cosmic philosophy.
Speaker B:He was possibly the son of a Warsaw rabbi who was a leader in the Frankist Reformation, a sect known for their orgiastic sex rights.
Speaker B: prisoned in Leeds, England in: Speaker B:After he was released from prison, he met up with his Scottish mason friend, Peter.
Speaker B:Also his name is Peter Davidson and I laugh every time I say it.
Speaker B:So Peter Davidson was a Scottish fiddle maker.
Speaker B:He and Thomas went to America to try and found a community for the HB of L. They wanted to go to California, but that was too expensive.
Speaker B:Then they wanted to go to Florida, but that didn't work.
Speaker B:So Peter ended up in Georgia, where he became known for his herbal elixirs and his magic mirrors.
Speaker B:The three of them adapted Pascal Beverly Randolph's the Mysteries of Eros and Ulis, with more emphasis on sex magic than was presently in that.
Speaker B:In that book, to form the curriculum of the HB of L, which was kind of a mail order secret society that was open to anyone who was prepared to submit their horoscope and a photograph, which the photograph would get sent back.
Speaker B: But this is: Speaker B:That seems like an ask.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You've got to have the money to have a photograph and have one laying.
Speaker A:Around, a male part with.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And you know, and you're Gonna be all.
Speaker B:Looking all serious and in it.
Speaker B:We're gonna be like, look, man, I had to stand there for 30 minutes.
Speaker B:I'm much happier than this.
Speaker B:Like, just please, like, just don't.
Speaker B:Or you can send them a spirit photograph photo like that was kind of taken off at the time anyways.
Speaker B:So you could be denied if your horoscope wasn't quite right.
Speaker B:But other than that, if you got the mail order course, the student got an ass teacher who was only supposed to be a helper as you had to go to another dimension to meet the real masters.
Speaker B:Though they are known as a Hermetic brotherhood of Luxor, they really have little to do with Egypt.
Speaker B:They did become known for being opposed to the Eastern thought of the Theosophist.
Speaker B:And Madame Blavatsky.
Speaker B:Them and Madame Blavatsky were having some serious.
Speaker B:She fought with everybody, but she was fighting with them specifically.
Speaker B:And they started proclaiming themselves to be a true Hermet Western occult society.
Speaker B:And the way they did it doesn't paint them that well under today's light.
Speaker B:Because they were very like, okay, I'm just going to put it this way.
Speaker B: advertisement that was in an: Speaker B:So they're specifically going after them.
Speaker B:But also that you.
Speaker B:You didn't need to put it.
Speaker B:The Hindu pardon there.
Speaker B:But they did.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So they continue on.
Speaker B:In an editorial for the occult magazine which they published, Thomas said there are many pathways that may lead to the same mountain summit.
Speaker B:So there are many methods of occult training.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Suitable to different nationalities by which the same soul powers may be evolved in the best manner.
Speaker B:Yoga training as practiced in India is totally unfitted for Western people residing in our colder climates.
Speaker B:European habit of thought, the influence of past generations of Christian sway and everything belonging to the civilization of the west has powerfully assisted in making the European nations the very opposite in thought, word and deed to those of far off Hindustan, which is what they called India.
Speaker B:So beyond just like the.
Speaker B:The Indian racism there, there's also just the note that you are too cold in England to do yoga.
Speaker B:Which I.
Speaker B:That may be not wrong.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I mean, it's too cold in England.
Speaker B:To be doing yoga.
Speaker A:They didn't have H Vac then.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:So in their charter that was signed by Max Theon, grand master pro temp of the exterior circle, the following we recognize the external existence of the great cause of light, the invisible center, whose vibrating soul gloriously radiant is a living breath, the vital principle of all that exists and will ever exist.
Speaker B:It is from this divine summit that goes forth the invisible power which binds the vast universe in a harmonious whole.
Speaker B:By the way, I was dictating some of this from a book and my the dictation thought I wrote Harmonious whole with an horror which is very different than the harmonious hole I think they were talking about with the HUA WH Also in the charter they said whole.
Speaker B:Remember we not Courtney loves band but a hole.
Speaker B:So remember we teach freely without reservation.
Speaker B:Anyone worthy of instruction.
Speaker B:They did have to include that word.
Speaker B:They're like we'll teach anybody.
Speaker B:But they had to be worthy of instruction.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:And their last line of their charter said finally, the members have full freedom of thought and judgment.
Speaker B:By no means may one member be disrespectful towards members of other religious beliefs or impose his own convictions on others.
Speaker B: t that was in here like circa: Speaker B:So there were two HB of L lodges in America.
Speaker B:One in Osceola, Florida and the other in Rochester, New York.
Speaker B:Both which are pretty home to a lot of spiritualist like people.
Speaker B:The New York lodge became run by a lady named Josephine Cables, who was an occultist writer, lecturer and were previously a secretary of the Theosophical Society.
Speaker B:She ends up marrying the senator from Alabama who ends up making his own weird little mining town that someday we'll talk about.
Speaker B:But anyhow, not to digress on that.
Speaker B:So some of the HB of L's rules for occult training eating.
Speaker B:So if you want to join the HB of L, you've got to follow their rules.
Speaker B:And the first one, the neophyte must abstain from smoking, the use of intoxicants, flesh eating, etc which is what they called not being a vegetarian.
Speaker A:I was like, oh yes, abstain from flesh eating, please.
Speaker B:Yes, in general I would say flesh eating is bad, but so the diet must be wholesome and strictly vegetarian and in nature.
Speaker B:And this was kind of big with Victorian spirit.
Speaker B:Like people who were in being spiritual, not necessarily spiritualist, but you know, people who were speak trying to the new age, Victorian new age.
Speaker B:Like they're really being into Vegetarians like Anna Kingford.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So number two, each morning or as often as possible, the neophyte must take a cold bath according as a natural constitution is robust or delicate.
Speaker B:When the bath is not convenient, the body must be well rubbed with a coarse, wet, wet towel.
Speaker B:So cold plunge.
Speaker A:That's what I was about to say.
Speaker A:I'm like, we got vegans that cold.
Speaker B:Plunge vegans, things never change.
Speaker B:All right, number three, during the day, whether engaged in business or otherwise, there must be a strong systemic effort made to check the slightest evil thought, word or deed.
Speaker B:And gossip under all circumstances must be completely prohibited.
Speaker B:So no gossip people.
Speaker B:In fact, the neophyte, while pleasantly performing the necessary duties of life, must cultivate a quiet calm reserve, self possessed state of mind and endeavor to his utmost to hold and check grief, joy, surprise, pleasure or pain.
Speaker B:For be it remember that the passions and sensations of the body are each and all but pretty subordinate states or in other words, centers of occult force which will ever strive to usurp the imperial rule of the true monarch, the human will.
Speaker B:So they want you to not have any emotions at all throughout the day because you've got to harness your, your will.
Speaker B:So you've got to be super calm.
Speaker A:That sounds creepy.
Speaker B:No gossip either.
Speaker A:Boring.
Speaker B:Yeah, these guys are like for occult, they're super boring.
Speaker B:All right, for, especially for one, we, we get to the sex magic.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, I'm not gonna ruin it.
Speaker B:We're gonna have sex magic, I promise.
Speaker B:All right, so number four, so they have, they.
Speaker B:I gotta get some control.
Speaker B:Then number five, you get some incense.
Speaker B:And then every day you've got into her mirror and chant an incantation and try and become one with the mirror so you can penetrate the astro light.
Speaker A:Hmm, yep.
Speaker B:And then at night, every day actually I really like this one.
Speaker B:Relax in an easy chair or recline on a couch.
Speaker B:Done.
Speaker B:That was done right there.
Speaker B:But you had to do stuff while you're on it.
Speaker B:Okay, so while you're on there, you're supposed to perform be formulating mental or metaphysical objects in your brain and then try and project them on externally onto the thing ceiling.
Speaker B:He may also find much benefit from a psychic point of view if he tries to reproduce any of the objects seen during the day.
Speaker B:This is the grand secret of penetrating the astral light of the past by the pathway that leads to the secrets of the astral light.
Speaker B:So think about something that you saw during the day.
Speaker B:Like you saw an orange and then you try and like remember that orange and like put it on your ceiling.
Speaker B:And then try and make that orange like astral projected something.
Speaker B:And then if you can do that, then you can master your way to the past.
Speaker B:And then you can master time travel.
Speaker A:Huh?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so the last rule of the occult training.
Speaker B:The moral tone.
Speaker B:This is why I. I don't think I might be able to pass this one.
Speaker B:The moral tone of the neophyte life must be pure, spotless and unholy by selfish desires.
Speaker B:Especially, must all sexual relations be carefully guarded and only participated in after due thought and a careful study of the ANC heretic Arcanum.
Speaker B:It is this very fatal state of sex that has ruined thousands of otherwise promising inspirants for occult initiation.
Speaker B:Thousands of them.
Speaker B:Thousands of them have been ruined.
Speaker B:So that Arcanum sounds hella racist when you read it.
Speaker B:I'll just tell you that you don't have to read it for yourself.
Speaker B:And it's mainly twin flame nonsense about soulmates.
Speaker B:Some terrible, terrible advice about when women can get pregnant.
Speaker B:Do not use that as a guide.
Speaker B:And also that unhealthy women were unfit mothers.
Speaker B:Years cool guys.
Speaker B:And we don't have time to go through their initiation rights.
Speaker B:And they have different ones for self and public.
Speaker B:They're not that exciting.
Speaker B:They're mainly about like having a white cloth and some lamps.
Speaker B:They don't even get dressed up good.
Speaker B:They do legit use this following phrase, which shows how hard they tried.
Speaker B:Dearly beloved, this man or woman as a case maybe having entered by the eastern gate, now hubbly supplicates at the foot of the sacred altar to be admitted as a brother or sister to the ranks of our ancient and noble order of the hbol.
Speaker B:I therefore circular command all of you who are now present, if anyone know any just cause or impediment why this man or woman should not be admitted, that you openly declare it now or forever hold your peace.
Speaker A:So it's like a wedding, but also they're letting people call out and say nah, don't come in.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Fun, fun.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:So initiates were to follow the seven principal rules of the hbol, which radiated the rules for occult trading and included that the fee for admission and initiation as a probationary candidate is $5 and the annual subscription membership is $1.25, which must be paid by the members in America to the treasurer of the Central Council.
Speaker B:There is no further charge except for further initiation, which can only take place at long intervals.
Speaker B:Goals and no case any initiation fee more than $5.
Speaker B:All instruction, teaching and other information must be given by either teachers or members for Free of charge.
Speaker B:So at least there's some money caps on there, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And finally, the sex magic.
Speaker B:I promise you the sex magic.
Speaker B:And it should be more interesting and fun than this.
Speaker B:But these guys were so boring.
Speaker B:Thomas warned that the power of sexual love never be used for selfish purposes.
Speaker A:Boo.
Speaker B:And the promise purpose of sex magic was the evolution of powers in the unborn child and the elaboration of social and domestic bliss in the married state.
Speaker B:So this, in the full initiation was only for married people.
Speaker B:Bachelors could only learn theoretically.
Speaker B:And they just wanted to create these children who were higher up on the human evolutionary ladder by banging while doing this sex magic.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Because they're like you're creating all this divine energy and then like, you poof it out and you make like a magic baby.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Then they have.
Speaker A:I don't think they said magic baby, did they?
Speaker B:No, but that's what they were thinking.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It's like an ethereal.
Speaker B:It's like an ethereal child or some like that.
Speaker B:I don't know what they call it after an ecstatic blending of spirit.
Speaker B:So in they have.
Speaker B:In their book, they have the mystery of the Eros.
Speaker B:And there's important items for the sex mystery, but some sad things.
Speaker B:They let you know that an evil desire or wish during the excitement of sexual intercourse directed against the male by the female or vice versa, will magnetically poison and result in innumerable disorders generally of a sexual nature.
Speaker B:So don't do that.
Speaker A:Don't think bad thoughts during sex.
Speaker B:Don't have evil desires or wishes while you're.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:But a good and benevolent desire express in a tender and earnest loving spirit.
Speaker B:It will magnetically strengthen the sexual organisms and benefit the person.
Speaker B:So do think good and benevolent desires, right?
Speaker B:But an evil thought or desire, if projected against any person, any person during the supreme, not as the one you're having sex with during the supreme moment of sexual excitement, will have the most evil effect upon the one against whom directed.
Speaker B:But at the same time, remember that every desire, when it has completed its orbit, it returns to the source from which it emanated.
Speaker B:Consequently, those who are guilty of such diabolical practices reap with interest all the evil that they have.
Speaker B:Stone.
Speaker B:So going in the.
Speaker B:You know, if you what, what you dole out, it's your car, it's karma, Right?
Speaker B:It's going to come back.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But you can do it.
Speaker B:But just know it's going to come back.
Speaker B:But you can do it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:But you can't.
Speaker B:But you can't do a good or benevolent wish against for yourself or another person.
Speaker B:That doesn't work.
Speaker A:That's lame.
Speaker A:You're gonna do evil.
Speaker A:That'll come back on you.
Speaker A:You can't do good.
Speaker B:That'll come back on you.
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker B:Because you cannot penetrate that high state of good.
Speaker B:The evil desire.
Speaker B:No, like that's your sperm can't get through.
Speaker B:So the.
Speaker B:The student may ask why an evil desire may have more effect during the excitement of sexual intercourse than times.
Speaker B:The answer is because the power and potency of all magical operations of the human will below a certain plan of development depends on the degree of the excitement of the soul at the moment of projecting the will.
Speaker B:And we know that sexual passion is by far the most intensely powerful of the human organism.
Speaker B:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:So it's like so you got, you can't smoke, you can't drink.
Speaker B:You can.
Speaker B:Only if you're married and you can't do evil.
Speaker B:What kind of cult is this?
Speaker B:This is a lame ass cult.
Speaker B:All right, so Max ends up marrying a Scottish medium named Mary Ware and they go off and settle in Algeria.
Speaker B:Thomas ends up in Monterey, California where he publishes a reboot of these teachings.
Speaker B:And that book's authorship has much been debated.
Speaker B:He maybe gets another another Persona like adopts and adapts another identity and marries the woman who is the creator of Harm gymnastics and a pioneer in Westernizing yoga.
Speaker B:Pete Davidson went on to snl.
Speaker B:So it has been rumored that Peter Davidson's family burned all his manuscripts.
Speaker B:But someone wrote the following comment on a blog.
Speaker B:We're going to end this today with this.
Speaker B:Just because it's spicy.
Speaker B:I don't know if this is true.
Speaker B:This is from the Internet.
Speaker B:I'm just going to read it.
Speaker B:Peter Davidson is my great, great grandfather.
Speaker B:Richard Davidson kept all the books handed down through the years away from family members members.
Speaker B:Sad to say, but he personally told me that our own family members were stealing antiques, books and other items from the old house.
Speaker B:23 years before Richard Davidson died, he gave me all the old books that had been hidden for over a hundred years.
Speaker B:Yes, I have a complete library of Peter Davidson's notes, the books he wrote, and also thousands of rare books that he brought from Scotland.
Speaker B:Richard Davidson was a. Richard Davidson was a fine man.
Speaker B:But Peter Davidson, even though he was very smart, was a follower of the occult.
Speaker B:Occult.
Speaker B:His books made it clear what he believed.
Speaker B:I have visited the original paradise location where Peter Davidson settled with his family.
Speaker B:I would purchase it from the owner, but I have no desire to do so because the man so many worship was a fraud.
Speaker B:The secret societies he belonged to were so immoral, unethical, and something that even our modern day society would see as wrong.
Speaker B:The only people interested in his work are the new age followers, quote unquote.
Speaker B:New age followers in California.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker B:So now you know the truth.
Speaker B:Read the facts and stop honoring a man who was a false teacher.
Speaker B:Damn, that's some spicy.
Speaker B:If that guy was true and that was really his great grandfather, to be like he was a fraud and all his was real immoral.
Speaker B:But yeah, there's.
Speaker B:There's some stuff in there that sounds pretty racist.
Speaker B:Some stuff that sounds like kind of eugenicsy as you know.
Speaker B:But you can dive further into that if you want to.
Speaker B:Or you could just go find other ways to have sex magic and I encourage you to do so.
Speaker B:Or don't have sex magic at all.
Speaker B:I also encourage you not to do that.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker B:We don't tell you what to do here.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker B:This is a podcast.
Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker B:So coming out of sex magic land, we're going back to where Sam had.
Speaker B:Has called.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because we're.
Speaker A:Now we're in the woods.
Speaker A:Go to the woods.
Speaker A:So Sam and Dean are talking to Arthur Catch in the woods and he's saying that.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, you know, we're trying to take our efforts.
Speaker A:Mick wants to take the efforts international.
Speaker A:And we.
Speaker A:But we only come when we're called.
Speaker A:And Sam called and I stir each other down.
Speaker A:Uhoh.
Speaker A:Busted.
Speaker B:And that the same time.
Speaker B:Time.
Speaker A:I know, but.
Speaker A:And he assumed that they were in trouble and they were.
Speaker A:And yeah, so he's referring.
Speaker A:He won't call Cassiel by his name.
Speaker A:He calls him Halo, which is cute, but also kind of degrading anyways.
Speaker A:And he's like, am I lying?
Speaker A:Because Dean's like, what the.
Speaker A:And he's like, no, but lies can be situational.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And catch is like, no, I know.
Speaker A:Good old lady Beville is excitable.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, excitable.
Speaker A:She tried to kill us.
Speaker A:Come on now.
Speaker A:And he's like, look, here's the deal.
Speaker A:I'm not, you know, I don't really care one way or the other.
Speaker A:I'm not an ideologue.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And Cass is like, wait, so you just want to help hunters kill monsters in the U.S. he's like, yeah, you know, we can offer expertise, weapons and skills.
Speaker A:You know, look at my truck.
Speaker B:He's like, shows off his trunk and he shows them he's got this tool for vampire nest or radiation.
Speaker B:It is like a magical Egg.
Speaker B:And he's got this magical egg that drives demons out of vessels, which then they're like, oh, crap.
Speaker B:Can that work on an angel?
Speaker A:Yeah, because this could be helpful.
Speaker A:Could be helpful.
Speaker A:And he is.
Speaker A:Is a hyperbolic pulse generator is what he calls it, because accuracy is unreliable.
Speaker A:And whatever that words.
Speaker B:Those words are, those are way too long.
Speaker B:It's a magic egg.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:And so we go to Dean talk, showing Crowley the magic egg with sigils all over it.
Speaker A:And they are discussing that they need to figure out how to get to Lucifer.
Speaker A:And as Rowena is setting up her altar and small.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And she looks great.
Speaker B:And we learn that the girl's name is Kelly.
Speaker B:And then they figure out that only one of them has a chance of getting onto that compound.
Speaker A:Because Kelly is pregnant.
Speaker A:She knows now that she's pregnant and Crowley is there and poofs her away.
Speaker A:And we are in a.
Speaker A:In this motel room, and she.
Speaker A:Or they're.
Speaker A:They're at this house, and obviously Kelly doesn't believe them.
Speaker A:They are telling her what's up.
Speaker B:Up.
Speaker A:I mean, they just told this girl who works for the president, United States, that the president is possessed by Lucifer and has impregnated her.
Speaker A:Yeah, that would.
Speaker A:I mean, that's distressing information.
Speaker B:I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever believe it.
Speaker B:And then they're like, I'm a witch.
Speaker B:He's an angel.
Speaker B:And then there's the king of hell, but God left, so God's not here.
Speaker B:And then they try and explain that they've been on Satan's trail for a long.
Speaker B:Sorry, Lucifer's trail for a long time.
Speaker B:And it's just like, what it.
Speaker A:And she's like, no, no, he's not.
Speaker A:He's not the devil.
Speaker A:He's just been under some stress.
Speaker A:And they're like, no, we know what we're talking about.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:We know you're pregnant.
Speaker A:And Cass is gonna go that thing inside.
Speaker A:Use an unholy abomination.
Speaker B:Abomination is the title of my next album.
Speaker A:And she.
Speaker A:He has her place her hand on a Bible to prove this, because it catches on fire.
Speaker A:And I agree that that would be very upsetting.
Speaker B:It's happening.
Speaker B:Happened.
Speaker A:That would be upsetting.
Speaker B:Sometimes you just smoke when you touch a Bible.
Speaker B:It happens.
Speaker B:No judgment, Kelly.
Speaker B:It happens to everybody sometimes.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker A:Not.
Speaker A:I wouldn't say everybody.
Speaker B:Every now and then, you just set on fire.
Speaker B:It's called perimenopause, or being pregnant.
Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker A:So Dean wants to know if Lucifer knows about the baby and she shares that he was.
Speaker B:Was thrilled.
Speaker A:Because that's the only time he's created anything.
Speaker B:It's also.
Speaker B:Nobody is talking about the fact that you knew you were pregnant within, like, a day of.
Speaker B:Because that's weird.
Speaker B:That itself is weird.
Speaker B:Like, you don't.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:That doesn't.
Speaker A:Normally.
Speaker A:I just assumed that was a Nephilim thing.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying, like, that also heard, like, she.
Speaker B:Like that.
Speaker B:That's why I was her.
Speaker B:I'd be like, that's weird.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because even if they've been banging for a while, it's clearly this.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:That's super weird.
Speaker A:It's all weird.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I don't know why she's.
Speaker B:She's obviously still freaked out, but that would freak me out, too.
Speaker B:And so Lucifer knows.
Speaker B:Blah, blah.
Speaker B:And then we're gonna go to the compound.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Where Lucifer is pacing and contemplating giving a full pardon to Charles Manson when Kelly calls.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He wasn't dead at that time.
Speaker A:So we cut to the Secret Service rolling to.
Speaker A:Into this Plains motel.
Speaker A:And these Secret Service guys go inside to one of the rooms first.
Speaker A:Kelly's in there, and they sweep it, and they're.
Speaker A:We can tell.
Speaker A:We see that everybody.
Speaker A:All the.
Speaker A:The gang is all hiding in the second room, the adjacent room.
Speaker A:And Castiel manages to mind control the one dude that finds him in the closet that he's not there.
Speaker A:So they.
Speaker A:They send the president in to meet with.
Speaker A:With Kelly.
Speaker B:And he's like, kelly's gonna get to learn what Lucifer is really like, is.
Speaker B:He's like, what's wrong?
Speaker B:And she's like, I can't have your baby.
Speaker B:And then his response is to choke.
Speaker A:Her out and glow his red eyes at her.
Speaker A:So Sam busts in with the egg, the magic egg.
Speaker B:And I'm gonna shake my egg at you.
Speaker A:Hits a sigil on the wall and starts an incantation.
Speaker A:And we see white light, like, glowing around our president, Lucifer.
Speaker A:And Rowena starts her spell, and Lucifer's pissed, and Sam tells him to go to Hell because.
Speaker A:Ha, ha ha.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker A:And as this is happening, Lucifer white smokes out and.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:And is gone.
Speaker B:But not before he gives a.
Speaker B:It's not over to Sam.
Speaker B:And very specifically to Sam.
Speaker B:Sam.
Speaker B:I'm like.
Speaker B:I'm not sure why you're like.
Speaker B:You're really honing in on Moose here.
Speaker B:But he does.
Speaker B:And so now this feels, like, very personal between the two of them.
Speaker B:Then we're gonna go outside of this motel where the agents have coming or coming in.
Speaker B:And they have guns blaring.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so our president Jeff is alive, by the way, but he won't remember anything.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And Castiel manages to sneak Kelly out the back.
Speaker A:And they are on the go.
Speaker A:But the.
Speaker A:Anyway, so our.
Speaker A:The Secret Service are there and they are very upset.
Speaker A:They are arresting Sam and Dean for the attempted assassination of the president.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:That's not good.
Speaker B:That is no bueno.
Speaker A:They get loaded into an armored vehicle.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Very, very big old truck.
Speaker B:And they get taken away.
Speaker B:And so we're like, what?
Speaker B:What just happened?
Speaker B:And it's crazy.
Speaker B:And then we go from there to a diner.
Speaker B:East coast diners.
Speaker A:Cass and Kelly are at the diner.
Speaker A:And she's a little distraught.
Speaker A:I mean, this is a lot.
Speaker A:So she's excusing herself the restroom.
Speaker A:Except she's not.
Speaker A:She sneaks out the back.
Speaker B:Poor Cass.
Speaker B:This happens to him so much.
Speaker B:People just leave him.
Speaker B:And like, he should probably know to look.
Speaker B:Look out for this by now.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:Yeah, he gets ditched when someone says they have to go to the bathroom again.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so she's like this.
Speaker A:I'm getting in a cab.
Speaker A:And so she leaves.
Speaker A:And as she's leaving, they get on.
Speaker A:He, you know, runs out to find her because he realizes that she left.
Speaker A:They get on the phone.
Speaker A:She's like, I can't do it.
Speaker A:I can feel this inside of me.
Speaker A:I'm its mother.
Speaker A:He's like, it's the spot of Lucifer.
Speaker A:She's like, it's my child.
Speaker A:And hangs up.
Speaker B:It's my baby.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so there we go.
Speaker A:And we see Sam and Dean shackled in the back of this armored vehicle.
Speaker A:And that's our episode Y.
Speaker B:They are very shackled up.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We have Lucifer's baby.
Speaker B:The boys being taken away by the government to a black opsite, probably.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker B:Who knows?
Speaker A:And so let's talk about our cast.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Casting cow.
Speaker B:It's the casting couch.
Speaker C:Were they on that show that time with that guy?
Speaker A:La la la la la la la.
Speaker B:La la la la la.
Speaker A:All right, so President Jefferson Rooney, AKA Lucifer, was played by David Chisholm.
Speaker A: and New York York: Speaker A:Kelly Klein has was played by Courtney Ford.
Speaker A:We'll see her again.
Speaker A:She's been episodes of Moesha, Ugly Betty, How I Met yout Mother, Grey's Anatomy, Vampire Diaries, CSI New York, several episodes of Revenge and the Flash.
Speaker A:She was Christine Hill in Dexter as a reoccurring character.
Speaker A:She Portia Bella Flor in True Blood as a reoccurring character.
Speaker A:And she also did the voice of piper in the Fallout 4 game.
Speaker A:Fallout's very popular right now.
Speaker A:I need to watch the new season still.
Speaker A:Rick Sanchez was played by Steven Lobo.
Speaker A:He's been an episode and we'll see him again.
Speaker A:He's been episodes of Smallville, a handful of those Fringe, X Files, Zoo Travelers, Colors Flash, Arrow, Van Helsing, Nancy Drew and Fire Country.
Speaker A:He was Seth in Painkiller Jane as a reoccurring character Matthew and Continuum, Martin in Snowpiercer and Ajit in Allegiance.
Speaker A:All his reoccurring roles Louis or Lewis.
Speaker A:Our our Rowena's lover was played by Mark Brandon.
Speaker A: f Days of our lives, dynasty,: Speaker A:He was an anchor in the movie the company you keep Mr. Fuller in final Destination, Bloodlines, the newest one and a lot of Hallmark as well.
Speaker A:Our coroner who was very briefly there are but we got to see for a second.
Speaker A:He is played by Eddie Flake.
Speaker A:He's been episodes of Supergirl, Bates Motel I, Zombie X Files, a couple episodes of Lucifer and Cleaning lady, as well as Pluribus.
Speaker A:And I call her.
Speaker A:I thought she was a doctor.
Speaker A:The late the blonde Secret Service chick that called the cause of death.
Speaker B:She was a doctor in the transcript.
Speaker A:I will say that, but they didn't call her that in the cast line.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:It was weird.
Speaker B:So in the it's like in the script she was called a doctor.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:She was played by Kathleen Dubois.
Speaker A:She's been episodes of X Files, Call of the wild.
Speaker A:Remember that one?
Speaker A:4400i zombie magicians, Riverdale, Nancy Drew and Happy Face and she's the judge's wife in the film Goblin.
Speaker A:And our priest was played by Philip Peugeot.
Speaker A:He's been episodes of Arrow, Izombie, Supergirl, Siren, Charmed, Riverdale and Allegiance.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:So, yeah, this is a wild episode.
Speaker A:Lucifer's having old He Lucifer possesses the president and then knocks up someone.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's a whole President, it's been possessed by Satan line.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So they did that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So they pushed.
Speaker B:They pushed things hard on this episode.
Speaker A:This is a lot.
Speaker A:A lot.
Speaker B:It's a lot to take in.
Speaker B:But I mean, at Least we only had to do, like, one episode of.
Speaker B:Of Lotus.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think more than that probably would have been a lot, but yeah, and then we have, you know, how it ends, too, but.
Speaker B:And we get more art.
Speaker B:We get more catch.
Speaker B:And Catch was really fun in this episode, especially because he had, you know, had a big old grenade gun.
Speaker B:And, you know, we'll.
Speaker B:We'll see how our feelings change and grow about.
Speaker B:About Mr. Catch and.
Speaker B:And the rest of them.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:So at least we got some British minute letters back.
Speaker B:Mary's still on the run.
Speaker B:We don't know where she is.
Speaker B:Does this mean Crowley and Rowena's relationship with the boys are over?
Speaker B:Cass and our Cass and Crowley finally breaking up?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's a lot.
Speaker A:There's a lot.
Speaker B:But it wasn't a bummer.
Speaker A:No, it was very exciting episode.
Speaker A:I mean, it's kind of a bummer.
Speaker A:They're, like, shackled in an armored vehicle at the end.
Speaker A:But no, it wasn't.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was a bummer, but not in, like, a sad way.
Speaker A:No, I agree.
Speaker B:It's more like it's a problem we need to solve.
Speaker B:Not necessarily, you know, know, it was a very high.
Speaker A:Like, a lot of act, like action, but not action.
Speaker A:Does that make sense?
Speaker B:No, it's very.
Speaker B:This was a very thriller action type.
Speaker A:You know, like, going on.
Speaker B:I think it's also.
Speaker B:Anytime you add in, like, Secret Service agents, it automatically kind of adds in that Red October sort of thrilly, you know, like, action thriller type of way.
Speaker A:It does feel that more.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:All right, well, look forward to.
Speaker B:I, like.
Speaker B:Like, I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker B:Like, look forward to knowing.
Speaker B:Figuring out what happens in the next episode.
Speaker A:I am.
Speaker A:I wonder what's happening in the next episode.
Speaker B:All right, so we'll.
Speaker B:On that note, cheers, sir.
Speaker A:Cheers.
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Speaker A:Going up to the Spirit in the sky.
Speaker A:That's where I'm gonna go when I die.
Speaker A:To the place that.
