12:19 The Future
It's Season 12, Episode 19 "The Future," and we are unsure of the future relationship of Destiel after Cas' behavior. We ponder the implications of the future nephalim. For fun, we play Supernatural Catchphrase, where Diana tries to solve famous SPN phrases.
Transcript
On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we've got sick burns and catchphrases.
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:I'm Liz.
Speaker A:And this week we're going to talk about season 12, episode 19, the future.
Speaker B:The future.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:What's happening in the future?
Speaker A:I don't know what's happened in the future we shall all see.
Speaker A:But let's talk about what's happened in the past.
Speaker A:What have you been up to, Liz?
Speaker B:So just living my Walt Disney evil.
Speaker B:The evil version of Walt Disney's life.
Speaker B:I guess.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Adopting some new animals.
Speaker B:I didn't even, I haven't sent you pictures of all the animals I've seen this week, but there is a, a red shouldered hawk that.
Speaker B:It was hanging outside in my tree today and I thought that was very nice of him.
Speaker A:That is nice of him.
Speaker B:That was nice.
Speaker B:Is that what they were doing?
Speaker B:I'm pretty sure it was looking for.
Speaker A:Something to eat, probably.
Speaker A:Facts.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean beyond that, it's, it's, it's just been animals all the time and all the time.
Speaker B:I feel like sometimes, you know, like I love my, I love the pets, but sometimes I do feel like they, they consume.
Speaker B:So much of my life is just spent with the.
Speaker B:Buying the animals food, preparing the animals food, cleaning up after the animals, poop, cleaning up where the animals vomit, finding where the animals vomit, then forgetting that I saw like, oh, she like cat vomited in the closet.
Speaker B:And it was like in a weird place in the closet that you don't see.
Speaker B:And I kept like leaving the room and forgetting the vomit was there.
Speaker B:I would go off to do something and like, oh, I need to get a paper towel and go clean this up.
Speaker B:And like the ADHD brain would squirrel onto something.
Speaker B:Took me like three hours to get that cleaned up.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And probably had been there for who knows how long because it was a weird spot of the closet.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:So I feel like, yeah, it's animals all the time.
Speaker A:I mean, I can relate to that right now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're like, I, well, I have the elderly animals and you have the, the young animals.
Speaker B:So like we have kind of like the circle of life.
Speaker B:Both end of, no puns intended, but the, the ends of what happens with animals as they are either in their elder stages or in their young stages.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And it's just, it's messy.
Speaker B:It's so messy.
Speaker B:And, and they're, they're adorable at Both.
Speaker B:Both ends and both stages, but it's gross.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're.
Speaker A:I feel you.
Speaker A:We're living that puppy life.
Speaker A:I'll be sure to.
Speaker A:I know we'll need to share Socket with the world at some point, but Socket is our puppy that we rescued a week ago, so.
Speaker B:Or did he.
Speaker B:Did he rescue you?
Speaker A:Oh, of course he did.
Speaker A:Actually.
Speaker A:I say that we got a dog for our dog, and now we have to take care of it.
Speaker A:That's what happens.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:So Albus needed a little brother, so now we have Socket.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, so we're just totally living that puppy life.
Speaker A:That's my excitement right now.
Speaker A:That's my.
Speaker A:My world.
Speaker A:Like, my exciting date night of going to Costco on Friday night was derailed by walking a puppy around in the yard for two hours waiting for him to poop.
Speaker A:So this is our excitement.
Speaker A:Welcome.
Speaker A:Don't worry.
Speaker A:I got to go to Costco on Saturday.
Speaker A:It worked out fine.
Speaker A:But that's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:Yeah, not too much going on here.
Speaker A:I do want to give a shout out to our friends at Denim Wrap Nightmares podcast.
Speaker A:We've been having fun on Instagram, so another re Watch podcast as well.
Speaker A:So thanks, guys.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:I know you love how I said that.
Speaker A:You're welcome.
Speaker B:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker B:I. I'm trying.
Speaker B:I. I don't.
Speaker B:I don't know how to respond to that voice.
Speaker A:And so I don't know what I was doing.
Speaker A:It just happened.
Speaker A:It just came out.
Speaker B:And we're gonna rol.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Sometimes we make choices and just happen.
Speaker A:Sometimes things just happen, Liz.
Speaker B:Other than that.
Speaker B:So the boys finally dropped the first two episodes of the final season.
Speaker B:And they were, of course, intense and great.
Speaker B:And Jensen Ackles is still so freaking hot.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't understand.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's ridiculous.
Speaker B:It is ridiculous how good looking that man is.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:But what was.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker B:I got distracted thinking about Jensen.
Speaker B:The boys.
Speaker B:But so they have.
Speaker B:Also there's this one part and now I can't spoil it.
Speaker B:So go watch it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And then I'm not going to spoil it, but they have revealed that I just told you.
Speaker B:Who.
Speaker B:Who is Jared?
Speaker B:Who is Jared playing?
Speaker B:Mr. Mr. Marathon.
Speaker B:I. I don't really know who that is.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna full on give that nerd, like, I'm sure some boy nerd.
Speaker A:Throwing something against the wall because of that.
Speaker B:And I know, like, I get.
Speaker B:Also, girl nerds can get upset.
Speaker B:Too.
Speaker B:Just because the people who I know in my life, who would.
Speaker B:Who would know what Mr. Marathon is, have to just happen to be boys.
Speaker B:So anyways, that.
Speaker B:So that is happening.
Speaker B:And did they say who?
Speaker B:Casses.
Speaker A:I did not see that.
Speaker B:I didn't see that one yet either, so.
Speaker B:But it's exciting.
Speaker B:It's about.
Speaker B:It's happening and I can't wait to see.
Speaker B:I. I'm mad.
Speaker B:They're dropping it.
Speaker B:Of course they're doing it.
Speaker B:They're dropping it one episode per week.
Speaker B:So they did two episodes for the first drop and then they're gonna drop another one.
Speaker B:So it's good.
Speaker B:It's like waiting for real tv.
Speaker B:So give me instant gratification.
Speaker A:And there's a really fun video floating around of both Sam and Dean.
Speaker A:Well, Sam Jensen and Jared on the rookie, talking about their role, so.
Speaker A:And talking about the fandom.
Speaker A:It's a really fun little clip out there on Social.
Speaker A:It's on our.
Speaker A:In our stories.
Speaker A:We've gone by then, but yeah, just.
Speaker A:You should go check out that.
Speaker A:I guess they made some other cameos together.
Speaker A:Talking about supernatural super fun.
Speaker B:Super supernatural fun.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I love it when that's where we're at.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I guess I'm just peppy tonight.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:You are.
Speaker B:And you're drinking.
Speaker B:I guess you are drinking caffeine.
Speaker B:Is there caffeine in that, Dr. Pepp?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Zero sugar.
Speaker A:It's zero sugar, but it has caffeine.
Speaker B:And some weird chemical.
Speaker A:I did not have a Red Bull today, so, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker B:So you have some less chemicals in you.
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I drink the Red Bull Zero.
Speaker A:It's made with monk fruit.
Speaker A:It's like vitamins.
Speaker A:Liz.
Speaker B:I'm drinking a cranberry lime seltzer.
Speaker B:Yum.
Speaker A:Exciting.
Speaker B:I wish I had vodka to put in it.
Speaker B:I honestly do.
Speaker B:I would dump a ton of vodka in this if I had it.
Speaker B:I just don't.
Speaker B:I think there may be some in the other house.
Speaker B:I just don't really.
Speaker B:I don't care enough to go look for the alcohol.
Speaker B:But if I had it, it would go very well with this.
Speaker A:It sounds like it would.
Speaker B:I wish this was like in a bar, like when you go to it.
Speaker B:I wish this was.
Speaker B:This would be my show drink.
Speaker B:Like this with vodka would be such a good hangout show drink.
Speaker A:Makes sense.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Get on it.
Speaker B:Bars.
Speaker B:Make that happen for me, please.
Speaker B:And they're like, you have to leave your house for that to be profitable for us at all.
Speaker B:I'm like, okay, fine, I will.
Speaker B:So they're the one, the ones.
Speaker B:Once the six months I go out, it's not profitable anymore.
Speaker B:Okay, so let's talk about the future.
Speaker B:And this was episode 19 from season 12.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:So seasonally appropriate.
Speaker B:It was directed by Amanda, Amanda Tapping, who we have not seen since.
Speaker B:Since season eight.
Speaker B:And she did a whole bunch of them that season.
Speaker B:That season.
Speaker B:Including a little slice of Kevin Hunter, E. Hirochi, torn and frayed Taxi Driver, the great escapist and sacrifice.
Speaker B:And then we've got Robert.
Speaker B:It was co written by Robert Behrens and Meredith Glenn, Robert Barrons this season he did the foundry rock never dies in the raid.
Speaker B:Meredith Glenn did the one you've been waiting for.
Speaker B:And regarding Dean and ladies, drink free.
Speaker B:So both of them have been around this season.
Speaker B:So to our recap.
Speaker B:Hey, Kelvin.
Speaker B:So there's Kelvin.
Speaker B:Then there's Cass going up to heaven to talk with Joshua, but ditching Jean.
Speaker B:Then there's Dagon and Kelly who says she's Rosemary, complete with baby Dagon promising to help her.
Speaker B:That unfortunate fight with Dagon.
Speaker B:And Eileen where she shot the young British douche.
Speaker B:Then Sam asking about Cass.
Speaker B:And then the cult.
Speaker A:The cult.
Speaker B:And that's where we.
Speaker B:We start before we go to Kelly on a cot.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she looks terrible.
Speaker A:And apparently Dagon is now force feeding her vitamins and talking because Kelly is so distraught about what this all means.
Speaker A:That she's gonna die having this baby.
Speaker A:That she has stopped self care.
Speaker A:There is my self care.
Speaker A:I mean she's not bathing, she is not eating.
Speaker A:She is just literally given up.
Speaker A:She is deeply depressed.
Speaker B:There is no way you could have forced vitamins in my mouth like that.
Speaker B:I would have just kept vomiting them up.
Speaker B:Like I vomit them up when I take them like half the time.
Speaker B:Like just because I have a really bad gag reflex when it comes to vitamins and pills and things.
Speaker B:So this is like my worst nightmare.
Speaker B:So I'm trying to think.
Speaker B:They won't go down, bitch.
Speaker B:Like, they just won't.
Speaker B:But Dagon says that her baby is going to consume a long list of things and no matter what though, he'll be born.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And they once again agree that he's gonna kill Kelly.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker A:Ta da.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:That's all there is to it.
Speaker A:So Dagon tells her to take a bath and leaves because apparently she's stinky.
Speaker B:So she gets up and she's talking to her Baby.
Speaker B:And she's filling this tub.
Speaker B:Is that with a hose?
Speaker A:Yes, she's filling the bathtub with a hose because she's in a basement.
Speaker A:But there's a claw foot tub down there.
Speaker B:For some reason, there's a claw foot tub.
Speaker B:When you put in a hose, would you do this?
Speaker A:I mean, if you didn't have any other option?
Speaker A:I don't know if I'd bother with the tub at that point.
Speaker A:It would just hose yourself.
Speaker B:I would just stand up in the tub and hose myself off.
Speaker B:I don't think I would do.
Speaker B:Because it's not relaxing.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:It's not a bath.
Speaker A:Well, she was not trying to relax, we soon find.
Speaker B:But, yeah, I. I don't.
Speaker B:Why.
Speaker B:Why the water then, Kelly?
Speaker B:Why the water?
Speaker B:Like, just your wrist?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we get a.
Speaker A:They are doing a nice job of not showing the full attempt, but we basically figure out that she is using a piece of broken glass from the mirror, too.
Speaker A:And she apologizes to the baby to try to end her life.
Speaker A:And she passes out in a tub, and the water is bloody and there's blood on the ground.
Speaker B:And so we assume that she has died.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That is the.
Speaker B:The implication from this.
Speaker B:And they go to a title screen, and we go straight from that to the bunker.
Speaker B:So at this point we're like, okay, that's.
Speaker B:That's the assumption.
Speaker B:And we go to a montage of Sam with some sick keyboard beats.
Speaker B:And he is sucking down the coffee, right?
Speaker B:And he's been reading up, though, on Nephilim and making all these crazy formulas to try and figure out how long until the baby is born.
Speaker B:And he comes up with this formula and that he decides that the baby will be born May 18.
Speaker B:So they have less than a month to find them.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And then who walks in?
Speaker A:Castiel's there.
Speaker A:He just strolls on in and Sam and Dana are kind of annoyed.
Speaker A:It's correction.
Speaker A:Sam's kind of annoyed, Dean's fucking pissed.
Speaker B:And Dean is butt hurt.
Speaker B:And when the, you know, try and ask where he's been, Cass is just like, I had no bars because I was in heaven working with the angels.
Speaker B:And he explains that when Dagon had to capture Kelly, he thought that could help, but, you know, nothing but no help.
Speaker A:Yeah, no help there.
Speaker A:And so Dean's like, yeah, well, you were doing that.
Speaker A:We had our shot at Dagon, but, you know, whatever.
Speaker A:And so Dean gets mad and yells at Cass and walks away.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's just.
Speaker B:I don't know, it's.
Speaker B:Communication issues are abounding.
Speaker B:Here.
Speaker B:Although we know there is also some subterfuge, right?
Speaker B:So we cut to Dean reading scanners on his laptop, and there's a knock on the door, and it's Cass.
Speaker B:And Cass has brought back Dean's 13 top Zep tracks.
Speaker B:No comment.
Speaker B:And Dean's just like, man, you know you take this because it's a gift, right?
Speaker B:I gave you a gift.
Speaker B:And you keep gifts.
Speaker B:You don't give them back.
Speaker B:I don't know if I would call this a gift.
Speaker B:I like, no, sir, please just take the Zeppelin back.
Speaker B:How could you find 13 songs?
Speaker B:Anyways?
Speaker B:So Dean tells Cass that they were worried, and right now.
Speaker B:And that's not okay.
Speaker A:And he's trying their family.
Speaker B:It seems almost like he's trying to communicate here, right?
Speaker A:And cast Cass can.
Speaker A:It feels like he's opening up and sharing that look.
Speaker A:I just feel like I'm failing.
Speaker A:When you were gone, I couldn't find you.
Speaker A:And then I couldn't find Kelly.
Speaker A:I just really needed a win, and so that's why I went there.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, yeah, we had her, but they got away.
Speaker A:And now Sam is looking for a way to resolve this without killing Kelly and maybe even the baby.
Speaker A:And Cass is like, well, would either of you even be able to kill an innocent?
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And this is where he.
Speaker B:Cass, is really stuck, right?
Speaker B:So, like, either of you, could you kill an innocent?
Speaker B:I don't think you can.
Speaker B:So I think I can.
Speaker B:And Dean welcomes Cass back into the fold and is just like, go, team Free will.
Speaker B:And then he needs a beer, right?
Speaker B:And wherever Kelly is, whatever house they're in, we cut back to there, and Dion finds a clawfoot tub filled with blood and sees Kelly in the corner and makes the same assumption that we did, that she is no longer living.
Speaker B:But when she goes over, the arms are healed.
Speaker A:She says, they wouldn't let me die.
Speaker A:What the.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker A:We've got.
Speaker A:Sam is like, wait.
Speaker A:Back at the bunker, he's like, what if we're going about this wrong, we can't.
Speaker A:You know, we can't track Dagon, but can we track an angel?
Speaker A:The baby is technically half angel.
Speaker A:Angel.
Speaker A:And they're like, well, Dean's like, that's a cool idea, but we couldn't do it before when you were possessed, so.
Speaker A:By an angel.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, facts.
Speaker A:However, the other spell we figured out was the grace extraction spell, and that did work.
Speaker A:And they're like, they could just remove the baby's grace.
Speaker A:And then Kelly and The baby don't have to die.
Speaker A:Dean is stoked.
Speaker A:He's like, this is it.
Speaker A:I gotta go tell Cass what's up.
Speaker A:We found a solution.
Speaker A:But guess what?
Speaker A:Cass has left.
Speaker B:Cass is.
Speaker B:Cass is not there.
Speaker B:Cass is no longer in the building.
Speaker B:What the.
Speaker B:Cass.
Speaker B:And we go back to the house where Dagon and Kelly are.
Speaker B:And Dagon can't understand was that she.
Speaker B:Why she doesn't want to be the new Mary of Nazareth evil Jesus addition.
Speaker A:I don't think she's selling this.
Speaker B:Well, it sounds so great when she says it.
Speaker B:But Kelly to stop her because he's not evil.
Speaker B:She's trying to explain that, right?
Speaker B:Like, this is not evil.
Speaker B:He saved me.
Speaker B:And Dagon's just like, no, you dumb.
Speaker B:He's only saving himself.
Speaker B:You can't die because he has to live.
Speaker B:And you know you're gonna die.
Speaker B:And this is basically gonna be my baby.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:She gives a rant about that.
Speaker A:Now we know the plan.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's very fairy tale Evil Queenie.
Speaker B:I'm going to take your baby and raise it as my own.
Speaker B:So nearby we see Cass is.
Speaker B:Has got.
Speaker B:Gotten there with his truck and he's there with Kelvin and.
Speaker B:And gives him the cult.
Speaker A:Cass stole the cult and gives it to Kelvin.
Speaker A:Wtf?
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:And apparently there's only two bullets in the chamber because he couldn't very well ask for them.
Speaker A:But they're like, that's fine.
Speaker A:We got one for Dagon and one for Kelly.
Speaker A:That's their plan.
Speaker A:So they apparently they have traced the celestial pulse to a house nearby.
Speaker A:And we see that Dean keeps calling and messaging Cassiel and he is being ignored.
Speaker A:But Kelvin's like, look, Cassiel, you're doing the right thing.
Speaker A:This is gonna have to help your reputation in heaven.
Speaker A:And because if your relationship with the Winchesters and Cass is like, I'm doing this for them because I want to keep them safe from Dagon and I don't want them to have to kill Kelly.
Speaker B:So in the house, Dagon is watching Catchphrase and the contestant gets it wrong.
Speaker B:And she laughs.
Speaker B:Just like we often do when we.
Speaker B:When Diana gets things wrong when I ask her things.
Speaker B:And we are going to play our own version of Catchphrase.
Speaker B:And for those of you who are watching on YouTube or on Spotify and please like and subscribe those things because that makes us happy.
Speaker B:And my YouTube views are so down and I'm sad.
Speaker B:So make me happy and go watch things.
Speaker B:But you can follow.
Speaker B:You can follow along with my janky game that I Made.
Speaker B: to make things work when it's: Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:So we're playing a Supernatural catchphrase.
Speaker B:The way that's going to work.
Speaker B:I was trying to figure out how to.
Speaker B:How to make that game work and make it work for audio too, since not everyone is going to be watching this.
Speaker B:And so we are going to be doing a version where we're going to talk about a character of Supernatural's famous catchphrase.
Speaker B:And these are super fam.
Speaker B:Famous catchphrases.
Speaker B:And we're going to be doing fill in the blank style for them.
Speaker B:And you're going to.
Speaker B:If you're watching, you'll get a hint of who the character is.
Speaker B:We'll also tell you.
Speaker B:So this first qu.
Speaker B:This first fill in the blank catchphrase is.
Speaker B:Is already up, and we're ready to go.
Speaker B:And question number one, My people.
Speaker B:Blank are rusty.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:The character is Castiel.
Speaker B:Now what blank goes in there?
Speaker A:Skills.
Speaker B:That is correct.
Speaker B:So catches people.
Speaker B:Skills are rusty.
Speaker B:See how this goes?
Speaker B:All right, number two, we've got a picture of Mr. Crowley, and the catchphrase is hello, blank.
Speaker A:That could be a couple things.
Speaker A:Well, I was gonna go with moose, but I don't think it's that one this time.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:So I. I'm in catchphrase.
Speaker B:I can do everything but say, not say the word.
Speaker B:So it is the opposite of girls.
Speaker A:Squirrel.
Speaker A:Oh, boy.
Speaker A:Hello, boys.
Speaker A:Duh.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yes, boys.
Speaker B:Hello, boys.
Speaker B:Is.
Speaker B:Is Crowley's catchphrase to.
Speaker A:I was overthinking it.
Speaker A:You are overthinking.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Which is what you do.
Speaker B:All right, number three.
Speaker B:Driver picks the blank.
Speaker B:Shotgun shuts his blank.
Speaker A:Driver picks the music.
Speaker A:Shotgun shuts his pie hole.
Speaker B:Sort of correct.
Speaker B:It is cake hole.
Speaker A:Cake hole.
Speaker A:Gosh.
Speaker B:I know that pie hole would also.
Speaker B:I mean, yeah, I know it seems like it would be correct, but no, it is cake hole.
Speaker A:Cake hole.
Speaker B:So half.
Speaker A:Half.
Speaker B:All right, number four, we have a picture of Bobby.
Speaker B:And the catchphrase is, well, blank.
Speaker B:I am so sorry your feelings are hurt.
Speaker B:Blank.
Speaker A:One of them is princess.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker A:I don't know what the other word is.
Speaker B:It is another way to say to cry.
Speaker A:Oh, I don't know.
Speaker B:Yes, well, boohoo.
Speaker B:I'm so sorry your feelings are hurt, princess.
Speaker B:But you got half of that again.
Speaker B:So these double ones are tripping you up because you're overthinking them.
Speaker B:But we'll get there.
Speaker B:We'll get there.
Speaker B:All right, number.
Speaker B:There's a picture and it's Sam, and it just says, I lost my blank shoe.
Speaker B:That is correct.
Speaker B:Number five is I lost my shoe.
Speaker B:Number six, it's, you've been.
Speaker B:And then there's a blank.
Speaker B:And then there's a picture of somebody.
Speaker A:Garthed.
Speaker B:That is correct.
Speaker B:You've been Garthed is the catchphrase.
Speaker B:All right, so you're turning it around.
Speaker B:Number seven, we have a picture of Rowena.
Speaker B:And the catchphrase, blank girls are pathetic.
Speaker B:Here is to evil.
Speaker B:Blank.
Speaker B:Fill in the catchphrase.
Speaker A:I'm gonna be wrong.
Speaker A:The good girls are pathetic.
Speaker A:Here's to evil witches.
Speaker B:All right, I don't even want to get.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't think I want to give you.
Speaker B:Give you.
Speaker A:No, don't give.
Speaker A:You don't have to.
Speaker A:Nice girl.
Speaker A:I forgot that one.
Speaker B:Here's to evil skanks.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:As that should be everybody's catchphrase.
Speaker B:I think that should be on bumper stickers everywhere.
Speaker B:Here's the evil skanks.
Speaker B:And if you're cheersing in a bar.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Cheers to that.
Speaker B:Okay, number eight, we're back to Mr. Cass in an earlier one.
Speaker B:And so this catchphrase is, I'm the one who blank you tight and raised you from blank.
Speaker B:Extra points.
Speaker A:I know the second.
Speaker B:If you say in Cass's voice.
Speaker A:No, I'm.
Speaker A:I think is it grabbed in hell.
Speaker A:The first one, I'm not sure on.
Speaker B:It is in fact, grips.
Speaker A:Oh, I'm way wrong.
Speaker A:I'm the one who gripped you tight and raised you from her.
Speaker A:Yeah, double wrong.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:Conceptually accurate words.
Speaker A:Inaccurate.
Speaker B:All right, so here is a picture of Cassiel.
Speaker B:Young, young Cassiel and a Bobby.
Speaker B:And Cassiel has a Molotov cocktail in his hand.
Speaker B:And the catchphrase is.
Speaker B:Hey, blank.
Speaker A:It's ass face.
Speaker B:Oh, girl, that's but ass.
Speaker A:But I'm terrible tonight.
Speaker A:I knew it.
Speaker B:Oh, you need more caffeine.
Speaker A:Failing.
Speaker B:Okay, you have one chance.
Speaker B:All right, last chance.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker B:There's a lot of cat.
Speaker B:A lot of blanks in this catchphrase.
Speaker B:The catchphrase is.
Speaker A:I know this one, though.
Speaker B:I think he wants us to pick up where he left off.
Speaker B:You know, blank people hunting.
Speaker B:Blank.
Speaker B:The blank Blank.
Speaker A:Saving people, hunting things, the family business.
Speaker B:Hooray.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker B:Saving people, hunting things, the family business.
Speaker B:Oh, not the opposite one, which we had last week.
Speaker A:That wasn't last week.
Speaker B:That was a doozy.
Speaker A:But I didn't do that bad.
Speaker B:You did pretty good.
Speaker B:You did pretty good.
Speaker B:And I think we found out that we can sometimes play catchphrase six.
Speaker A:I mean, I. I got 60 there.
Speaker B:It's like a D, right?
Speaker A:And I didn't fail.
Speaker B:D is for a degree.
Speaker B:So Dagon is having fun watching catchphrase when Cass and the angels walk through the house.
Speaker B:And the phrase was also the iron curtain, which was hilarious.
Speaker B:And Cass has cocked the gun.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:He has it ready at the chair, but Dagon has poofed away.
Speaker A:And she is on the move.
Speaker A:He tries to.
Speaker A:He sees her and he tries to shoot, but he misses.
Speaker A:And that's bad news because we know they only have two bullets.
Speaker A:So now we have a fight.
Speaker A:And Kelvin's like, castiel, you go find Kelly.
Speaker A:I'm gonna fight Dagon.
Speaker A:And there's a third angel who gets killed by Dagon right then.
Speaker A:And so Castiel goes to the basement and he points the cult at Kelly.
Speaker A:He is going to kill Kelly.
Speaker A:While this is happening upstairs, Dagon knocks the out of Calvin and then runs downstairs to see that Castiel and Kelly are gone.
Speaker B:They're gone.
Speaker B:And at the bunker, Sam is trying to reach Cass by the phone.
Speaker B:Dean is packing a bag because they still haven't made any ready to go.
Speaker B:And they know Cass ass has the got the cult now.
Speaker B:And Dean has to explain to Sam the reason that he got that cult was because it was under his pillow.
Speaker B:That's how.
Speaker A:Not in the safe.
Speaker B:Ed was not in the safe.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:So Dean just wants to find him, though, and kick his feathered ass.
Speaker A:Because he got played.
Speaker A:So Castiel and Kelly are driving, and she's like, I know you came to kill me, but you didn't, so thank you for that.
Speaker A:And he's like, no, I'm upset because that means I failed my mission.
Speaker A:And I don't know what's next.
Speaker B:Next.
Speaker A:We're just trying to put as much space right now between you and Dagon.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:We've got.
Speaker A:Dagon has to cycle psychically, call Lucifer now and report in.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:It's kind of funny.
Speaker B:It is kind of funny.
Speaker B:And he talks to her from a cell, and she tells him that angels found them.
Speaker B:And when he finds out that Kelly got taken by Castiel, like, that really pisses me him off.
Speaker B:And that's really funny that.
Speaker B:It's just like, oh, my God, like, the world's dumbest angel has got my baby, right?
Speaker B:And Lucifer threatens to take away.
Speaker B:Basically, she has been promised that she was going to rule, like, while she has this baby.
Speaker B:And now he's like, I'm gonna torment you.
Speaker B:Like, you're gonna go through hell, you're not gonna get to rule.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I guess she was under the impression Lucifer had promised that if he.
Speaker A:If she made sure this baby was safe and born, then she would, like, be his partner and they would raise this baby like a weird little family.
Speaker A:And he's like, no, that's a fantasy.
Speaker A:You aren't promised.
Speaker A:It's his attitude.
Speaker A:And so she is upset and feels like everything she was promised is slipping away.
Speaker A:And he's like, nah, don't.
Speaker A:No, I don't care.
Speaker A:So, yeah, but we realized, too, that Kelvin is.
Speaker A:The angel is not dead.
Speaker A:He is alive and tied up as a hostage for.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker A:For Dagon.
Speaker B:But, yeah.
Speaker B:Then we go to North Point Motel, and Cass was communicating with Joshua to get his orders.
Speaker B:And those are that he's going to take her up to Heaven, and that way, her and the baby, they're gonna die.
Speaker B:And their beings are going to go back to the universe, but they're going to be in Heaven, and then.
Speaker B:Then that'll just be fine.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:The power of a human and an archangel hybrid, that's just crazy talk.
Speaker B:And that could bring the world just, like, its knees.
Speaker B:And Kelly tries to argue for the fact that we don't know that we just have this baby here.
Speaker B:And it could be like, whatever it wants to be.
Speaker B:It's a baby.
Speaker B:And Cash is like, we can't take that chance.
Speaker B:But then the truck won't start, and he's kind of screwed.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So back at that house, Dagon is torturing Kelvin for info.
Speaker A:And he's like, I don't know where Cassiel went now, because the plan didn't go to plan, so.
Speaker A:What the.
Speaker A:And she's mocking him, but she's like, no.
Speaker A:So finally she's like, look, you.
Speaker A:He calls her Lucifer's desperate, clingy side piece.
Speaker B:Damn, that was a burn, Kelvin.
Speaker A:And she gets pissed and then wants to know, wwcd.
Speaker A:What would Castiel do after she punches.
Speaker B:Him through his chest?
Speaker B:Because being a side piece hasn't its perks.
Speaker B:And I would be pissed off to be called aside.
Speaker B:And they're like, I'm a prince of Hell.
Speaker B:So at the motel, Kelly.
Speaker B:Cass wants Kelly to stay out of sight while he Googles how to fix a truck.
Speaker A:I was cracking up when he Googled that.
Speaker A:Okay, okay, Cass.
Speaker A:Good luck with that.
Speaker A:And she's like.
Speaker A:She is expressing to him that she had lost hope.
Speaker A:She even killed herself.
Speaker A:She slit her wrist and she died.
Speaker A:But the baby saved her and brought her back.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Anyway, so, yeah, she's evangelizing, right?
Speaker B:And she's just like, this baby, you know, like, it was like, really good.
Speaker B:And they felt the baby's pulse, like, when he brought her back to life.
Speaker B:Like, that was such power that they felt that in heaven.
Speaker B:And he is just like, holy.
Speaker B:Like, that's not actually a good thing that we could feel like that.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But she.
Speaker B:She's like.
Speaker B:I also think this is really funny too, because she's so much of the.
Speaker B:You know, there's a plan for this.
Speaker B:And he's like, I've met God.
Speaker B:There's no plan.
Speaker B:God's gone him and his sister off.
Speaker B:Like, there's no.
Speaker B:Nothing is left in the universe now, right?
Speaker B:We're just winging it.
Speaker B:And this Lucifer doesn't have a plan.
Speaker B:He's just sewing chaos.
Speaker B:Because that's what Lucifer does.
Speaker B:There is no grand design for any of this.
Speaker B:And you were just there when Lucifer took over the president's body, which I think is a worse burn than the side piece burn.
Speaker A:I think so, too, though it's probably.
Speaker A:Both of them are probably factually accurate.
Speaker A:That's probably a little bit more hurt.
Speaker A:This is more emotionally hurtful.
Speaker A:Like, side pictures.
Speaker A:Like, you, bro.
Speaker A:But, like, being like you were just there.
Speaker A:Like, oh, that's painful.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she's like, yeah, but the baby could still be good.
Speaker A:And Cass is like, yeah, but you still won't survive the birthday birth.
Speaker A:So who's going to take care of this baby then?
Speaker A:What the fuck?
Speaker A:Who's going to protect him from evil influences?
Speaker A:And she smiles because the baby kicks.
Speaker A:And she makes Cass put her his hand on her belly.
Speaker A:And we see his.
Speaker A:Her eyes glow yellow again.
Speaker A:And we see a vision of Cassiel protecting her.
Speaker A:And then Sam and Dean knock on the motel door because they found Castiel.
Speaker A:And Dean is pissed and wants that cold back.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And after he yells, that's mine.
Speaker B:He slams Cass up against the wall until Sam gets his attention that, hey, Kelly is here.
Speaker B:But they found him because.
Speaker B:Track Sam put a tracking app on Cass's phone.
Speaker A:Good call, Sam.
Speaker A:And Castiel's like, look, I found Dagon.
Speaker A:But she's quote, difficult to kill.
Speaker A:Understatement.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:But anyways.
Speaker A:And then the truck broke down.
Speaker A:And he was just trying to keep Sam and Dune safe and keeping him out of this because it's my responsibility.
Speaker A:I'm gonna take her to heaven through the sandbox.
Speaker A:She has to die.
Speaker A:And Sam's just like, no, there's another way.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Remember we did that cool Grace extraction thing.
Speaker A:That could work here.
Speaker B:And Cass plays devil's advocate with this whole plan.
Speaker B:And Dean is just like, look, it's a plan, and it's just better than death.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But Kelly is like, no, we're not doing this.
Speaker B:And she walks out and.
Speaker B:Because she doesn't want them to take away what makes her baby special.
Speaker B:And Dean's just like, oh, right.
Speaker B:This chick is nuts.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So now they're standing in this parking lot in the middle of the wide open, and Dean's like, maybe we should all just get in the Impala and go back and talk this out at the bunker.
Speaker A:And he gives Castiel the keys so Cass and Kelly can wait in the Impala while Sam and Dean stand in the middle of this parking lot talking.
Speaker A:And Kelly cannot resist the temptation and grabs the keys and drives them off.
Speaker B:She steals baby.
Speaker B:And she is.
Speaker B:But she's down with Castiel's plan, and she's taking them to heaven if he tells her that that's the way because the baby chose him.
Speaker B:And her baby said she had used to follow his plan.
Speaker B:And Castle makes sure that the baby is born.
Speaker B:So she's listening to her unborn baby, and this is how she is making her decisions.
Speaker B:That seems like a sound idea.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she knows that Castiel will guide and protect the baby even if she's gone.
Speaker A:So he's like, oh, you shouldn't put your faith in me.
Speaker A:Let me list all the ways that I have failed.
Speaker A:And she's like, I don't know why, but we are destined for something great.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay, Kelly.
Speaker A:So we come back.
Speaker A:Dean is fixing the truck, and Sam's trying to, like, ask Dean, like, how did this even happen?
Speaker A:What is.
Speaker A:What the up with Cass?
Speaker A:And Dean's like, he's just had a bad year, and he's desperate for a win,.
Speaker B:So he thinks that Cass isn't seeing straight.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Still not agreeing with, like, we all think, you know, no one's on the same page.
Speaker B:But the truck is fix, and we go to the sandbox, where the gates to heaven sandbox.
Speaker B:And Cass and Kelly are there, and they walk up to it, and she was just like, as long as you're here, we're gonna be okay.
Speaker B:And the sandbox lights up, and there's a Joshua vessel.
Speaker B:And that Joshua vessel was like, don't be scared until Dagon kills him.
Speaker A:Yeah, because Dagon's there.
Speaker A:And she's like, yeah, I've been.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:You know, I tortured Calvin and then killed Him.
Speaker A:And I've been waiting because I knew you'd be here.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Ta da.
Speaker A:And so Castiel is trying.
Speaker A:Pulls an Angel Blade and is trying to protect Kelly.
Speaker A:But Dagon mocks him for that.
Speaker A:She's like, oh, you don't even have the cult anymore.
Speaker A:And they fight.
Speaker A:And while that's happening, Dagon picks up Cassiel by his throat just as Sam and Dean arrive.
Speaker A:And Sam starts shooting her a lot.
Speaker B:With a bunch of regular bullets, and it does nothing.
Speaker B:And then she gets to Dean with the cult and she's like, you know what?
Speaker B:It's time to take this off the board.
Speaker B:And she melts it with her hands.
Speaker A:Well, she broke his arms.
Speaker A:She basically broke his arm, too.
Speaker B:Basically, yeah.
Speaker B:But I think it's also interesting from a canon perspective.
Speaker B:Like, this seems like a writer thing, like, coming from above.
Speaker B:Like, we have had enough of this thing that can kill everything.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's time to take it off the board.
Speaker B:And so it gets melted down.
Speaker B:And that's, I think, is crazy.
Speaker B:So now we have no more cold.
Speaker A:No more cold.
Speaker A:That's very sad.
Speaker A:Very sad.
Speaker A:So Castiel gets up and gets to Kelly and tells her to run.
Speaker A:But she takes his hand and she starts glowing.
Speaker A:And she sends the glow up Cassarm and it heals him because he was all beat up.
Speaker A:And then his eyes flash light blue and then they flash yellow.
Speaker A:And then she.
Speaker A:Dagon tries to do the heart shock.
Speaker A:Like how she kills people.
Speaker A:Like, hits them in the chest with this glowy hand thing.
Speaker A:But he stops her.
Speaker A:He grabs her arm and he says,.
Speaker B:Call it a miracle.
Speaker A:And then she burns.
Speaker B:And she does.
Speaker B:And Sam and Dean are watching this with the mouth agape.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:What was that?
Speaker B:That was Cass and the baby together.
Speaker B:And Cass goes over to Dean and he heals him.
Speaker B:And he thanks him for coming to fight for them.
Speaker B:And he's been so lost.
Speaker B:But not anymore.
Speaker B:Because now he knows his child needs to be born.
Speaker B:And with all his power, because he now has faith.
Speaker A:Gotta go.
Speaker B:And so he boops in the sleep, he boobs both of them.
Speaker B:Sam and Dean asleep.
Speaker B:So he and Kelly can walk away.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they go to the truck, and Kelly's like, what did he tell you?
Speaker A:I'm talking about the baby.
Speaker A:And he says, he showed me the future.
Speaker B:The future.
Speaker A:And they drive away.
Speaker A:And I really hope they left the Impala keys behind for Sam and Dean.
Speaker B:I think so.
Speaker B:I think.
Speaker B:I think they're in the car.
Speaker A:Just thought about that at the moment, and I was like, better be in the car.
Speaker B:Oh, crap.
Speaker B:And that's where it ends.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:One just quick cast note.
Speaker A:Casting cow.
Speaker C:Couch.
Speaker A:It's the casting couch.
Speaker C:Were they on that show that time with that guy.
Speaker A:Is the angel that goes into the house with.
Speaker B:Yeah, with Kelvin.
Speaker A:With Kelvin and Cass.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he dies pretty, you know, pretty fast.
Speaker A:But he is played by Damian Mavis, who's a.
Speaker A:Mostly a stuntman actually in shows everything from Tracker, Shogun, Fire County.
Speaker A:So a lot of things that we see overlap from other actors on Izombie and Van Helsing, but he's also been in episodes of Supergirl and Chester Peak Shorts.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:So what did you think about this episode?
Speaker A:I want to about it, but I like it.
Speaker A:How about that?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Ridiculous.
Speaker A:But so it's kind of like ridiculous.
Speaker A:And it's one of those ones where you want to shake the characters the whole time.
Speaker A:But at the same time, I think it really is like moving the storyline along.
Speaker A:I think it's interesting.
Speaker A:I think it's making for a good culmination of the season.
Speaker A:That's my.
Speaker A:That's my opinion.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean it.
Speaker B:Cass is very frustrating though.
Speaker B:And his.
Speaker B:His lack of.
Speaker B:I mean, the lack of loyalty that Dean, I. I don't know if I.
Speaker B:If I was a Winchester, if I would give up that.
Speaker B:That straight up amount of coming in here, like.
Speaker B:And because the whole thing of him giving back the tape, all of that stuff, he was only there to steal the cult.
Speaker B:So all those things where he's getting welcomed back to the circle, that's all a lie.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And I don't know if I would forgive that level of duplicity because that's pretty.
Speaker A:That's pretty bad.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:I think they just have gotten to the point where they understand like hastily's like, desire to do right and to get things right.
Speaker A:And even if it's misguided and they've all made.
Speaker A:All of them have made misguided and yeah, there's a decision and done just distrustful things.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But there's a level of, you know, accountability, responsibility and what.
Speaker B:And learning from your lessons and what you're taking responsibility for.
Speaker B:Like, he's taking responsibility.
Speaker B:He thinks this is the responsibility to keep them safe.
Speaker B:And so to do that, he does that by any means necessary.
Speaker B:And when it.
Speaker B:Even if in the end it means that he's going to be disloyal and he doesn't, you know, which is a greater sin to, you know, Sam and Dean would rather get hurt than to have Someone lie to them.
Speaker B:Them.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:Well, you know, they lie to each other, but, yeah, no, I can see this might be, like a.
Speaker A:A step too far from Castiel.
Speaker A:I see that with the cult, especially knowing how important that is to Dean.
Speaker B:Like, well, and now we no longer have the cult.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And again, I said, this is, you know, a really good Right at this point.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:I feel like a showrunner coming in.
Speaker B:I'm like, I'm tired of this cult.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like, yes, we know it can kill.
Speaker B:Like, why can't you just use the cult?
Speaker B:Why can't you just use the cult?
Speaker B:You know, so that would just work for everything.
Speaker B:Especially when they got to the.
Speaker B:They can make more bullets.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:So now it's an infinite way to kill an infinite amount of things.
Speaker A:But that's true.
Speaker A:And that is get old.
Speaker A:That doesn't make for a great story.
Speaker B:It's a cool gun to have in a video game, but it.
Speaker B:In a while, you know, in a.
Speaker B:In a TV show, I can see where it would get redundant after a while.
Speaker A:Yeah, you can't.
Speaker A:It's like, you can't have an unkillable villain either.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, that gets old, too.
Speaker A:It's kind of like both extremes.
Speaker A:You have to have some kind of.
Speaker A:Of a way through.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker A:But, yeah, no, I'm intrigued to see where this goes next.
Speaker A:But I do.
Speaker A:I see.
Speaker A:I definitely see and agree with your point, too.
Speaker B:All right, so I think on that note, we'll end it.
Speaker B:Cheers.
Speaker A:Jerk.
Speaker A:Cheers.
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Speaker A:Going up to the spirit in the sky.
Speaker A:That's where I'm gonna go when I die.
Speaker A:When I die in the Lady.
Speaker A:Sam.
