Episode 12

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7th Oct 2023

7:12 Time After Time

Time after time we say time travel is stupid but is it ok when the time travelers are really hot? Find out and test your knowledge in the science of time travel! Do you know how your favorite time travel movies got it wrong? All that and more on this week's episode of Devil's Trap Podcast.

Transcript

Jerk:

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap Podcast. I'm Diana.

Bitch:

I'm Liz, not doing that weird voice that Diana is doing. No?

Jerk:

No. This week we're going to talk about season seven, episode 12. Time after time. I'm going to go ahead and start the video.

Bitch:

Sometimes do you picture me? I am never walking too far ahead of Diana because my legs are like half the size of hers, so I could never physically walk ahead of her.

Jerk:

pretty much

Bitch:

It's

Jerk:

from now. So how are you this week, Liz?

Bitch:

I don't even know. It's October.

Jerk:

It is October.

Bitch:

So that's happened. I don't

Jerk:

You're stocked up on skeletons.

Bitch:

know how I bought an obscene amount of skeletons a day at, and, um, at home

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

and that store is dangerous. Holy shit.

Jerk:

It's

Bitch:

That

Jerk:

so dangerous.

Bitch:

store needs a lot more things to be on sale. Uh, there was, I was a little pricier if I wanted to be, but, um, I got some.

Jerk:

They have all the things, they have so

Bitch:

Yeah.

Jerk:

many things.

Bitch:

I stopped like. Thankfully had to go back to work, right? So it was just, it was like, ah, just like, I stopped because I knew after I took, you know, I have been the vet shuttle for my mom's cats. So after I took another cat to the vet, it's just been, and we had another cat party this weekend where all the cats got bathed and got

Jerk:

Yes.

Bitch:

shaved. And I've been trying to like find like ways to talk about like that my mom's cat was getting shaved without like being like. you know, you know,

Jerk:

Hmm.

Bitch:

and I'm

Jerk:

Without

Bitch:

just like,

Jerk:

saying,

Bitch:

damn

Jerk:

my

Bitch:

it.

Jerk:

mom's cat's getting shaved. That's what you're trying to not say. But say.

Bitch:

Yeah, so, but groomed, groomed also, but still was weird. And so, but

Jerk:

Yeah,

Bitch:

Portia got the

Jerk:

not

Bitch:

full

Jerk:

helping.

Bitch:

Monte and so she's got a little, she has a little frame around her face, a little poof on her tail and her little feet and her big ass belly, just like swinging around. And her foopa, like that leg is just like, just hanging underneath her big ass belly, but. I think she feels that like she seems a lot more comfortable with that. I forgot where I was going to use this. Out of my skeletons.

Jerk:

It was starting about skeletons, but now we're talking about cat

Bitch:

Yeah.

Jerk:

foopas.

Bitch:

So,

Jerk:

So

Bitch:

but

Jerk:

I mean.

Bitch:

I also, yeah, but I mean, at home, like that, I was kind of impressed. I was just like, no, you do not need to buy all like, I bought this. Okay. You definitely need a trash can for your office, but that's it. You can buy this

Jerk:

That's

Bitch:

trash

Jerk:

it.

Bitch:

can and then the hundreds of dollars of skeletons

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

and this trash can.

Jerk:

Yes.

Bitch:

That is the only practical thing you can buy. Hehehehe.

Jerk:

They have some decent outdoor stuff, I think, because I think I didn't buy much, but I did like, I think I got an outdoor rug there. Did I? I don't know, I looked at stuff there before. It's

Bitch:

It's

Jerk:

a dangerous

Bitch:

just especially,

Jerk:

store though,

Bitch:

you know,

Jerk:

very

Bitch:

as

Jerk:

dangerous.

Bitch:

I'm in that mid house stage where

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

it's just like, uh, it's like, I, but I'm also just trying very hard not to spend money. And early some things I don't actually need. I mean, the

Jerk:

Yeah,

Bitch:

skeletons clearly

Jerk:

that's

Bitch:

needed

Jerk:

a need, obviously, clearly.

Bitch:

clearly needed because they have the flamingos there and they were the only place. And so right now they're all like in my car and I'm about to go on a trip and I'm like, do I just leave them in the car? and then just like happily, I guess somebody breaks into my car and steals the skeletons, well fuck off.

Jerk:

Ah.

Bitch:

So what about you?

Jerk:

I had a pretty eventful weekend actually. I got, I got Winsaw off with their heads who were fantastic as usual at Three Links in Deep Hellem. And then I spent some time getting tattooed on Saturday. Friday night was that, Saturday night was tattoo day. And then Sunday was State Fair of Texas. I got my, it was opening weekend. So I went and got my Fletcher's corny dog, like you have to and get my picture with Big Tex. And... Yeah, I had a good old time running around and saw our friends from Island getaway rum. They've got a set up all, all season at the fair and they've got

Bitch:

Let's

Jerk:

samples.

Bitch:

go.

Jerk:

They have samples. So I did that. And I'm a cute, that's a really cute setup, like a little tiki vibe. So, yeah, good little weekend busy. I'm

Bitch:

I

Jerk:

holding

Bitch:

forgot

Jerk:

down

Bitch:

I,

Jerk:

the, I'm holding

Bitch:

I forgot

Jerk:

down the fort.

Bitch:

I worked out weekend. I was like, why didn't I feel like it? What did I do? Oh yeah. You

Jerk:

Oh yeah,

Bitch:

just

Jerk:

you

Bitch:

worked.

Jerk:

worked.

Bitch:

You didn't have a weekend.

Jerk:

Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I'm holding down the fort while Babe's on an adventure.

Bitch:

You're being a bachelorette.

Jerk:

Yeah. I feel like I had, what is that? It was like, what's the trend now is like girl dinner or whatever. It's like, it's this thing where like when chicks make stupid shit for dinner because they're by themselves, it's like the shit that we would do. So like tonight I was like, I'm making myself a fucking baked brie for dinner. And guess what I made for dinner? A fucking baked brie. I felt a little guilty. So I made a little pesto pasta on the side because I was like, I need something other than like bread and baked brie in my face.

Bitch:

But do you?

Jerk:

Well, not much, just a little bit. Mostly

Bitch:

So

Jerk:

I

Bitch:

good

Jerk:

really wanted

Bitch:

for

Jerk:

leftovers

Bitch:

you.

Jerk:

for other stuff to eat this week, so I don't have to cook every night. That's why I'm like, I'm going to make some pesto pasta because then that'll that's good for a few days.

Bitch:

Yeah, that is true. Oh, you're gonna make me hungry. Okay.

Jerk:

Sorry. All

Bitch:

So,

Jerk:

right.

Bitch:

uh, so yeah,

Jerk:

Mm.

Bitch:

very, so this week is going to be, I don't know. So we're October is spooky season. Hooray. And

Jerk:

Yeah. Yay.

Bitch:

yeah. All right. So, oh, one thing just in kind of the land of things. I just noticed that a, why did not notice this before, but Ruth Connell from the show who you've not met yet, but who, you know, who she is and she's amazing.

Jerk:

I'm aware.

Bitch:

She's in Nandor and the Talking Mongoose, which is the new Simon Pegg movie,

Jerk:

Oh.

Bitch:

which about Jeff, the Talking Mongoose, the paranormal event that was like so, you know,

Jerk:

Oh, yeah, we talked

Bitch:

we've

Jerk:

about.

Bitch:

talked to, we've talked

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

about, I think we, I think I did a whole

Jerk:

No,

Bitch:

thing

Jerk:

yeah,

Bitch:

about

Jerk:

we did

Bitch:

Jeff.

Jerk:

that. We've done lore about

Bitch:

Yeah.

Jerk:

that. Yeah, for sure.

Bitch:

So,

Jerk:

I didn't know there was a movie now. I missed

Bitch:

yeah.

Jerk:

that part.

Bitch:

:

Jerk:

Hmm.

Bitch:

we start off with a hat and a trench coat man, hat

Jerk:

Yeah,

Bitch:

man.

Jerk:

fedora, dude. I think I just call this person fedora through my notes, by the way, says fedora.

Bitch:

I call him Hat Man.

Jerk:

Hat man, it might have been easier to write. I don't know. I like writing F's, though. So fedora walking away from a house down an alley. Sam and Dean have been like, obviously, staking this guy out. And they're like, we're going in. Sam's like, what's the plan? Don't die! Not a great plan.

Bitch:

Rarrr! Lazy! Hehehe

Jerk:

Spoiler, they succeed in the plan, not part of the plan. But anyways, and I'm also really irritated. Like there's like all these like food wrappers on the dash of the car. It's just really junky looking. What is going

Bitch:

It just

Jerk:

on?

Bitch:

looks

Jerk:

I

Bitch:

really smelly. And I think I comment

Jerk:

know.

Bitch:

on this later. Like the cars, they all look gross right now. But my car is finally clean because I had to take my aunt somewhere last week. So I cleaned out my car. And then like I finally washed it yesterday.

Jerk:

And then you filled it with skeletons.

Bitch:

And then right now it's filled. It's still filled with skeletons. So anyways, so they split it through the alleys and there's a guy and there's a red light and it's being sucked out of someone's and it's going to red sucked out for sex. I don't know.

Jerk:

They get a red light sucked out of them into the fedora man.

Bitch:

and dig a hat band and then Dean's like, ah, then he runs and he tackles a hat band and then.

Jerk:

Yeah, and Dean gets sucked into the red, bright light with the fedora man. It's

Bitch:

So

Jerk:

a very

Bitch:

it's,

Jerk:

confusing intro to saying it was very hard to describe.

Bitch:

there's a lot of sucking. And then like Sam's just like, dude, and he's just like this very long guttural D. And I'm like, what

Jerk:

Very

Bitch:

is

Jerk:

weird.

Bitch:

happening? But we then, we were like, okay, I guess this is how we start.

Jerk:

Yeah,

Bitch:

We're

Jerk:

and

Bitch:

gonna

Jerk:

then we...

Bitch:

go back in time already. Oh, two

Jerk:

Already,

Bitch:

days earlier.

Jerk:

spoiler, and I'm just kidding, two days earlier. Yes,

Bitch:

Well, it's called time after time, so

Jerk:

I know, so obviously, I'm

Bitch:

we're

Jerk:

just

Bitch:

going

Jerk:

using.

Bitch:

to a time that's two days earlier.

Jerk:

Yeah. And Dean is obsessive. We'll figure out that Dean's been obsessively researching Dick Roman.

Bitch:

just deem

Jerk:

Dick all the time.

Bitch:

just dick all the time

Jerk:

Google

Bitch:

he's

Jerk:

and Dick.

Bitch:

just

Jerk:

Google and Dick.

Bitch:

but he's just doom scrolling and Sam's phone rings

Jerk:

And it wakes him up. And it's Jodie Mills. Yeah.

Bitch:

Yay,

Jerk:

Sheriff Jodie.

Bitch:

Judy!

Jerk:

And she's like, hot tip. There's a body in Canton, Ohio that pretty much looks mummified and everybody's trying to cover it up. And it's not the first one. So y'all need to get the fuck out there. Cause it sounds like your jam. And then she also kind of like, we get a good implication here because I was like, Oh, fuck. Does Jodie know about Bobby was one of my first thoughts. like right when we figure out that's her calling and she does because she chokes up and talks about how like the stuff she's been through with Sam and Dina Bobby

Bitch:

Yeah, so I mean she's touched by his death and I appreciate that. I like it Because

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

they almost made out that one time

Jerk:

They did almost make out that time. So, anyways, they get off the phone and Sam's

Bitch:

Or

Jerk:

like.

Bitch:

did they?

Jerk:

that was made out.

Bitch:

Oh, we don't know, like, did they? They could have.

Jerk:

Maybe I hope they did.

Bitch:

Yeah.

Jerk:

But so they get off the phone and Sam is giving Dean shit about obsessing over doom scrolling dick, basically. Doom scrolling dick. Anyways, and Sam hopes he's watching cartoons. Smut is what he calls it. And Dean closed the laptop and says it's called anime and it's an art.

Bitch:

Ehhhhhh...

Jerk:

So we go to Canton, Ohio, because they got to go figure out

Bitch:

I

Jerk:

what's

Bitch:

just

Jerk:

up

Bitch:

had

Jerk:

with

Bitch:

a

Jerk:

these

Bitch:

quote,

Jerk:

mummies.

Bitch:

like, I just was like, am I going to Canton, Ohio? I may actually drive through Canton, Ohio. I'm not sure if I do, I'll snap a pic and that'll be really great. But so they are in Canton, Ohio and they're staying in this foreclosed house that looks hella haunted and I want it.

Jerk:

Yeah, I was like, what the fuck house is this? Oh, they're just picking a flop house. It's up for auction. And so they move in and it's like rock, paper, scissors for like the shitty rooms. It's just gross, whatever.

Bitch:

And Sam wins because paper beats rock. And that's just something it's a within the Winchester lore. Sam always wins because paper always beats rock.

Jerk:

funny. There you go. Well, they've got a case file and they're like, well, you know, these kids found this body playing hide and seek. That's sad.

Bitch:

Why did

Jerk:

And

Bitch:

they have the whole case file? Like, did they steal

Jerk:

I, where did they get,

Bitch:

it? Like,

Jerk:

I have no idea.

Bitch:

why

Jerk:

They just

Bitch:

is

Jerk:

have

Bitch:

that

Jerk:

a case

Bitch:

picture

Jerk:

file.

Bitch:

in there? But also they're in trench coats. I'm eating a trench coat and I like the thing to add this to this. I feel like they've taken this from Bobby. I don't know. And I feel like they had coats before, but now they do.

Jerk:

You know, either way, the whole the whole thing we've got is that they're like, all right, well, there's an unreliable witness as identified by police. So they're going to go visit with this guy. And they introduced themselves as agents, Smith, not related. And the guy looks super freaked and wants to talk outside his mom sleeping. And it's like a grown man wrapped up in a grown youngish man wrapped in a blanket. And we realize when he starts explaining. why what happened because they insist that he tell the real story. We realize, oh, no, the cops are calling him an unreliable witness because well, stories, you know, if you're not into this shit, story sounds far fetched, but also he's fucking high.

Bitch:

He was, he was medicating.

Jerk:

self-medicating on the patio. And so he saw the whole thing and he can't remember what a fedora's called so he calls it the Justin Timberlake hat.

Bitch:

2012 that was accurate.

Jerk:

ith history going back to the:

Bitch:

desiccated.

Jerk:

And there's a story about how a woman named Terry Cervantes found a corpse near a church and it made the front news of the newspaper. And I can't find any pattern to these deaths other than the fact that they seem to drop in threes. Every couple of decades. So there we go. Dean wants to do more research. And Sam has a hot take again, because he's really into giving Dean a hard time about this.

Bitch:

No! Oh, oh.

Jerk:

And says, oh, more anime are strictly into Dick now.

Bitch:

Yeah.

Jerk:

I was tickled.

Bitch:

Also Jared's hair is so long.

Jerk:

It's very long in this episode. So, and Dean thinks he's all slick. And he's like, let me just Google Canton webcams or whatever.

Bitch:

He has Lunda hat cameras! That's

Jerk:

But like the

Bitch:

adorable!

Jerk:

way they show him doing it is not how it works. Google like webcam enter.

Bitch:

Yes, that is not, no, that is exactly how you hack a web camera.

Jerk:

Okay, so and anyways, but he's able to pull up a bunch of views around the city. And Sam's super impressed because Dean learned it from watching Frank.

Bitch:

Oh, and somehow they also like, they've got all the back footage from these places, but that's cool.

Jerk:

That's

Bitch:

And they

Jerk:

cool.

Bitch:

can go back in time and like look at all of them. They found Hat Man.

Jerk:

They find Timberlake, Fedora, Hat Man, whatever you want to call him, they find him. And they're like, wait a minute, that same guy is in the, because the camera quality is so fucking good, they can zoom in to see his facial features also and realize that he's actually also in that cover story in that news article from decades ago.

Bitch:

Totally makes sense. Yup.

Jerk:

So they're going to go talk to Terry that the little who was the little girl that found the dead body and

Bitch:

And

Jerk:

she's

Bitch:

Terry grew up to be a doctor and I'm

Jerk:

See you

Bitch:

very proud of Terry. Go for

Jerk:

then.

Bitch:

you. Like I know this was not hard in what you came of age in Terry, so good for you.

Jerk:

So she's like, hey, I don't know whatever happened to that body. I still would to this day don't know. But by the way, that dude in the fedora, that's Mr. Snyder. He lived on my parents street. Okay, then. So that's where we get back to our intro scene with the stakeout of

Bitch:

Yeah,

Jerk:

this

Bitch:

and

Jerk:

house.

Bitch:

this is where I commented, because I was like, Sam and Dean are having a smelly steak out. And that's just looking at this car. I'm just like, ew.

Jerk:

It smells like mustard and onions, I bet. And

Bitch:

It.

Jerk:

I like those things on a burger, but I don't want to sit in a car that smells like him.

Bitch:

Oh yeah, or like the day after like you go to In-N-Out

Jerk:

Oh,

Bitch:

or something.

Jerk:

we

Bitch:

But

Jerk:

leave

Bitch:

I

Jerk:

french

Bitch:

did.

Jerk:

fries in your car. Yeah.

Bitch:

No, I did at like, I forgot where I got it. Where I got this like little like jelly bat and it's like an Austin bat or something, but it smells like, I don't know, like one of like a, like a mini tree or something. But no, my car smells really good and I have a bat.

Jerk:

That's nice. I like it.

Bitch:

Which goes right into this next thing where they're just kind of like so what is this like is he a dude like but you know Is he vamp like what's going on and Sam's

Jerk:

Mm-mm.

Bitch:

like no, but the bodies have blood It was just like really old blood So then I asked like does blood stay in a mummy and cuz it wouldn't right and so like blood breaks down I checked like of course

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

I did but The good like those like those guys wouldn't have blood left in them. They would have been like broken down

Jerk:

Well, the whole thing about them being like, desiccated and like, they thought they were dehydrated or decaying or leathery. Like that's like a lack of moisture. So the blood like would have to be dry. I don't know. I don't know.

Bitch:

It's dust, it's not blood anymore. That just isn't

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

like that, like that doesn't anyways.

Jerk:

It makes no sense. So

Bitch:

But they say hat man, f'nore dude.

Jerk:

yeah, and so we get the whole little intro scene again. Ta-da.

Bitch:

So yeah, okay, so here we go, all right.

Jerk:

And then, but we cut back in this time, Dean, we see Dean finish the tackle. He doesn't just get he had sucked into the light. There's a bright light. And then he finishes the tackle. And then they're in the still in the alley, but it looks a little bit different. And he sees that Fedora man is where it has like this ring that looks kind of like an infinity symbol slash a hourglass kind of thing on it. And that guy runs away. So Dean pulls a gun and chases him down the alley. And there's jazz playing suddenly. And now he's in the middle of the street and it's the forties.

Bitch:

Or at least like what we were assuming. We're getting some hints around

Jerk:

We're

Bitch:

that,

Jerk:

assuming

Bitch:

right?

Jerk:

I'm not I'm teasing

Bitch:

And like,

Jerk:

like the V

Bitch:

yeah.

Jerk:

s:

Bitch:

And now

Jerk:

So he gets

Bitch:

we've,

Jerk:

arrested.

Bitch:

we've got a coppa

Jerk:

Cap is arrested.

Bitch:

and the coppers are taking him down to the police station, I guess.

Jerk:

Yeah. And I immediately wrote, damn it, is this a time travel episode? And texted Liz.

Bitch:

And so Dean's just like handcuffed, it's handcuffed.

Jerk:

I'm just, he's kind of, I'm just very amused. This cop is like going through his stuff. It's kind of funny how he's like fucking with his pocket knife. I'm like, I didn't even think about that. Like the technology even like on a pocket knife is completely different. Like it looks completely different.

Bitch:

Yeah, yeah, and you know, James is like, I'm a fed. He's like, no, you're not. You're a crowd venture.

Jerk:

And Dean's like, I don't even like Saga, but his FBI badge, they point out, was issued 68 years from right now. So.

Bitch:

th. And we realized that it's:

Jerk:

Yeah. And I think he's a spy for Germany.

Bitch:

And they do. And so we're Diana was correct. It's a time travel episode. Right. So we all know what we say here. Time travel is stupid. But,

Jerk:

So we're gonna do...

Bitch:

but we're not. So we're going to, I'm going to quiz Diana about this. Time travel and science.

Jerk:

Oh no. All

Bitch:

Okay,

Jerk:

right.

Bitch:

so your first question, you ready? In the classic movie, Back to the Future, the DeLorean time machine famously misfires in his journey through time. But where does the movie go wrong in terms of theoretical physics? Is it one? It forgot that Marty needed a cosmic GPS to navigate through time. 2. It excludes the concept of spacetime or the necessary temporal coordinates. 3. The flex capacitor isn't powerful enough to bend reality. 4. Ignore the quantum entanglement of Marty's shoelaces.

Jerk:

one.

Bitch:

No, although I feel like number one kind of could be true because it's too because it excludes the concept of space time and the necessary temporal coordinates, which is kind of like a fat. So space time basically means that time and space are in like time and location are inseparable. So like you can't like if Marty put like, I'm going to go to like this time, like in the DeLorean, like he wouldn't be traveling to that place on earth. He would be like sucked into like some weird vortex

Jerk:

and be

Bitch:

and

Jerk:

at the same location.

Bitch:

rip. He'd be like in a vacuum in space, right? So like you just can't alter one without influencing the other. So basically they just won't work. Okay, so That's your first question. Just some simple theoretical

Jerk:

Sure.

Bitch:

physics, right? This is fine.

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

o a random Chuck E. Cheese in:

Jerk:

Right.

Bitch:

like you just go A to B, like

Jerk:

It

Bitch:

you

Jerk:

doesn't

Bitch:

can't,

Jerk:

go like,

Bitch:

you can't go

Jerk:

Ada,

Bitch:

A to

Jerk:

psh.

Bitch:

wherever the fuck I wanna go to.

Jerk:

Yeah,

Bitch:

You

Jerk:

that's

Bitch:

can

Jerk:

not how it works.

Bitch:

only go to the other end. And if you have the video right, I would see him basically making weird things with my face. Okay.

Jerk:

You're just fist bumping yourself, it's

Bitch:

I'm

Jerk:

okay.

Bitch:

f- spupping myself, I'm worm-holing myself. Alright, so...

Jerk:

You don't know that's, I don't want to Google that. Go ahead.

Bitch:

All right, so good question number four. All right, in the Star Trek universe, the recurring concept of, I'm going to look up how to say this word, tacky on, it was gonna be, I was assuming tack like to call it T-A-C-H-Y-O-N-S, is often associated with time travel events. In the Star Trek universe, that recurring concept, okay, yes, okay. So what is that? Is it A, a particle that travels faster than the speed of light? B, a subatomic particle used to power Starship warp drives? C, a type of energy field generated by Starship engines? Or D, a form of exotic matter used to stabilize wormholes?

Jerk:

I think it's two, but I'm also not sure. Yes.

Bitch:

It is A, a particle that travels faster than the speed of light.

Jerk:

That was my second one.

Bitch:

All right. So number five in the movie, the butterfly effect, the concept of the butterfly effect plays a central role. What is a butterfly effect? Is it that a visual effect uses them? Is it a, a visual effect used to symbolize time travel in the film? B, a metaphor for the transformation of the main character into a butterfly. C, a scientific phenomenon where the flapping of a butterfly's wings could cause a tornado. or D, a recurring motif of butterflies appearing throughout the movie. It is C, you are correct. Butterfly effect is a scientific phenomenon where the flapping of a butterfly's wing can cause a tornado. So question number six, are there any actual butterflies in the butterfly effect?

Jerk:

I'd have to have seen the movie in this, I don't know.

Bitch:

So what do you think?

Jerk:

I'm gonna go with no.

Bitch:

Yes, of course there are. It's called the butterfly effect. Like, what the fuck? You think they would have made any butterflies

Jerk:

Yeah,

Bitch:

in the

Jerk:

I could

Bitch:

movie

Jerk:

see

Bitch:

called

Jerk:

that.

Bitch:

the butterfly effect?

Jerk:

Yeah. fucking Hollywood.

Bitch:

Side question, can a butterfly's wings flapping cause a tornado?

Jerk:

I mean, I guess

Bitch:

No,

Jerk:

it's a theory,

Bitch:

no,

Jerk:

but not

Bitch:

that's

Jerk:

literally.

Bitch:

total bullshit. No, that cannot happen. Okay.

Jerk:

Well, it's like it's like the it's like the domino effect. It doesn't mean like the literal like

Bitch:

It's causal,

Jerk:

A to B.

Bitch:

it's

Jerk:

It's

Bitch:

cause

Jerk:

not

Bitch:

and

Jerk:

directly

Bitch:

effect,

Jerk:

causal. Yeah.

Bitch:

Um, so at number seven in the:

Jerk:

What movie?

Bitch:

The Time Machine.

Jerk:

Thanks for watching! Uh, so I'm just gonna, I'm gonna go with B.

Bitch:

No, it's still wormholes.

Jerk:

Damn, that was my

Bitch:

So they're

Jerk:

second

Bitch:

still

Jerk:

option.

Bitch:

er eight, the director of the:

Jerk:

Oh,

Bitch:

I didn't... Alright,

Jerk:

that's one of the best songs ever in it.

Bitch:

number nine!

Jerk:

What was I was at some show and somebody covered that song and I cried. God damn it. Who did that? It was amazing. I remember. Go ahead.

Bitch:

All right, number nine in the movie, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, which concept related to time travel is exemplified through the film's premise? Is it A, the concept of time loops where events repeat endlessly? B, the idea that time travelers can change history with minimal consequences? C, the exploration of parallel universes and alternate versions of reality? Or D, the predestination paradox where future actions lead to their own costs?

Jerk:

that one.

Bitch:

It is, it is that. So like that means like, so, okay. So event A causes event B is that typical cause and effect, right?

Jerk:

Mm-hmm.

Bitch:

And so that's how we work literally normally. And so, but with the predestination paradox, B is what causes A. But because A had to occur first, so B to happen, you get a loop

Jerk:

And

Bitch:

and

Jerk:

this is why

Bitch:

just

Jerk:

time

Bitch:

go.

Jerk:

travel is stupid and it stresses me out.

Bitch:

And this is why time travel is stupid. And question number 10 was going to be about Donnie Darko, but then I didn't want to think about Donnie and Darko. So now we're done with this and time travel is stupid. I also had to do my makeup.

Jerk:

Cool. Yeah, it works for me.

Bitch:

But speaking

Jerk:

All right.

Bitch:

of doing makeup, in comes somebody who tells the cop to take a powder.

Jerk:

And who is this? It is a new detective and he wants to know what

Bitch:

It

Jerk:

really

Bitch:

sounded

Jerk:

happened.

Bitch:

like you said new detective.

Jerk:

New detective? New detective. And he wants to know what really happened in the alley. So Dean

Bitch:

Yeah,

Jerk:

tells

Bitch:

he

Jerk:

him the

Bitch:

also

Jerk:

truth.

Bitch:

has a fedora. He's not nude. No, I wish he was nude with a fedora.

Jerk:

Naked with a fedora.

Bitch:

Okay, go on.

Jerk:

Well, either way, so he wants to know all about this and Dean's like, oh shit, you're a fucking hunter. Cause you believe me. And he is, and it is none other than Elliot Ness.

Bitch:

craziness.

Jerk:

Google. Anyways.

Bitch:

Okay, I can get that you have not seen the Untouchables, but you had to Google Elliot Nets.

Jerk:

It's not like a name like I know off the top of my head. Like I

Bitch:

A

Jerk:

Googled

Bitch:

Capone.

Jerk:

it and I was like, I did a Google and I was like, oh yeah, that guy. I knew as soon as I saw it. It's just not something that's like at the forefront of my brain.

Bitch:

heart brains and very different

Jerk:

Also,

Bitch:

things to

Jerk:

my

Bitch:

them.

Jerk:

brain was full of fair food yesterday when I watched the episode, so I'll take that too.

Bitch:

air, food. Okay, so.

Jerk:

I ate loaded french fry pizza. It doesn't have Marinara sauce. It has ranch dressing.

Bitch:

It's just beautiful. It's a beautiful thing.

Jerk:

It's a lot. All right, so Sam's got his murder wall going back in

Bitch:

Yeah, he's got

Jerk:

modern

Bitch:

a literal

Jerk:

times

Bitch:

murder wall. Like he is just like that. There isn't even a chalkboard at this point. It's just like the entire wall of this house.

Jerk:

It's

Bitch:

He's got

Jerk:

pretty

Bitch:

a

Jerk:

impressive.

Bitch:

murder house.

Jerk:

man. But whatever. So back in:

Bitch:

Well, he was still real and that was based on his life. Vadim really wants to be an untouchable and Elliot Ness tells him he looks like a bendelstiff. And a bendelstiff is what they were called, like they called hobos because they carried a bendel on the stick.

Jerk:

Oh, I was wondering what that was. Thanks. So they're going to go to the tailor

Bitch:

I

Jerk:

because,

Bitch:

put haberdashery.

Jerk:

because.

Bitch:

I feel like it was a haberdashery they went to.

Jerk:

I'm sure they did it all. So they went to go get a custom suit made, but they basically, they know, but they all, they know, they have the Elliot and Dean had the combo. They know this thing kills in threes. There's two down. They need to get another one. And there we go. So that's the mission. So this Elliot and S is busting Dean out of jail to go help him. So, uh, they go in and meet, uh, Ezra Moore, who is fucking amazing.

Bitch:

I love her.

Jerk:

We love her. And, um, yeah. Elliot just says, yeah, he's from the future. Like no biggie. So we figure out that like Ezra is kind of like in on the hunter thing, but we don't really know how and we never really know how sadly, but, uh, either way. So Dean's like, yeah, gas costs $4. You can get cheese out of a spray can and the president is a black guy. I could go on.

Bitch:

I cheese on a spray can is a pretty important technological invention that people want to know about.

Jerk:

That's it.

Bitch:

Yeah, and so we start flipping kind of back and forth between

Jerk:

it out.

Bitch:

like the present and the past. So sometimes when it's just like present, past, present, past. So we go back to the present and Jodie's got books in boxes. Then we go back to the past and Dean looks really ridiculously hot.

Jerk:

He looks really good with his hair parted and like slicked

Bitch:

Like his hair

Jerk:

out.

Bitch:

, like late:

Jerk:

And then he says it again, and like, they make, they say that he sounds like a religious kook. I was like, that's kind of funny. There we

Bitch:

Yeah, so

Jerk:

go.

Bitch:

every time that I say awesome, probably because they say that is my word of the year, apparently. Awesome.

Jerk:

Awesome.

Bitch:

I blame Becky. So Ezra calls them Iges and it's adorable. She is

Jerk:

I

Bitch:

the

Jerk:

know

Bitch:

new old, she is the new old Bobby.

Jerk:

she is. That's basically like what the implication is. She's kind of like the pre Bobby.

Bitch:

Yes, I do, old me.

Jerk:

So. So Jodi's trying to help Sam research all these boxes that she brought over. And basically, these boxes are from Bobby's storage. This is what we find out. And they actually find a. While they're looking online, they find a picture of Snyder and they see the ring and they're like, wait, what is this? Let's go find it in a book. So now they're looking for the hourglass slash infinity symbol looking ring. And in the meantime, Dean and, um, and Ezra are discussing about it because they're still in the, in the Taylor. And she's like, yeah, it's the infinite hourglass. It's the mark of Kronos, the God of time.

Bitch:

And you know, we almost had lore on this, like, so Krodus isn't really like a god. He's kind of just like this concept, like he's this thing that like, he represents time. It's this

Jerk:

Father

Bitch:

weird,

Jerk:

time.

Bitch:

it's, yeah, he becomes associated with father time. And it's visually just kind of like philosophical crap, right? But anyways, but in here, he really does get personified as like a god.

Jerk:

And that's actually how it's done in a book series that I really like that I've referenced before. But that's a Piers Anthony series that there's a

Bitch:

Yeah, yeah.

Jerk:

book. There's one of the books is about time. Yes. So but basically what he's what Ezra busts out with is he's killing folks for time juice.

Bitch:

Get their thyme juice, sip it on that thyme juice like his gray goose.

Jerk:

, how else do you get back to:

Bitch:

You're gonna summon a god.

Jerk:

And so, and as Ros like, sure, sure. I'll scrounge something up that you can kill a God with. No, no big y'all. Uh, you know,

Bitch:

Just kill God.

Jerk:

in the meantime, go figure out if his house has been built yet. You can go research that. So, um, yeah, it's. Dean doesn't do well, like. I don't know. You know, for someone that really likes these old movies, like it's like the like the Wild West one where he like. He just doesn't adapt greatly.

Bitch:

Uh, isn't adapt, you know, is a hard time sometimes, you know, imitating Sean Connery

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

or, you know, just, you know, blending, blending is, is this issue because you know, he gets, sometimes he seems a little dumb, but anyways, they get to the house from before and Elliott kicks the door in, which is just kind of like, yeah, this is like why people hate the cops. Elliott. Like you started this. So anyways, Dean finds

Jerk:

Pssst. Ahhhhhhh.

Bitch:

a ledger and we realize that Chronos is using the fifth strategy.

Jerk:

The Biff strategy, which is amazing. I'm so glad they use that line to describe it. Made me happy. But which I mean, for anyone that doesn't know, I can't even say it. Never mind. I can't say it. If you don't know too bad, look at it. Even I know that one and I don't see shit. Apparently I've never seen any movie.

Bitch:

I wonder if that has its own wiki page. Anyway, so basically there is a ledger and it's full of all the gambling stuff that crone knows Mr. Schneider is doing.

Jerk:

Yeah. So basically the Kronos fedora man, whatever. Same nice Mr. Snyder is using his time travel knowledge to gamble and make a lot of money. And they're like, well, shit, let's go find his bookie. And so they find Lester Young because it's coded in the book. And they're like, hey, we're going to good cop, bad cop it. Dean's the bad cop. Oh, it's the good cop. Oh, and they make up a story after Dean like. punches the shit out of Lester. He's like, I learned it from watching you. I can only say that way. And then, like, Elliot makes up like a story about how Dean's been kicking Nazi heads in for the last two years. And he doesn't kick a head in every so often. And he needs to get it out.

Bitch:

Yeah, so basically they harass this man until he becomes a slowly stoolie and snitches on Kronos and tells him where to find to find Schneider slash Kronos you can find him at the early bird kisses after they don't say why they don't say

Jerk:

Mm-mm. Just taking me to the early bird. So back in modern times, Sam and Jodie are like, OK, well, if we're going to summon the crown house, we need to make sure that he literally has his hands on Dean at that moment. Otherwise, Dean can't ride him back.

Bitch:

They keep referring to his writing him and they should stop.

Jerk:

It's a lot.

Bitch:

It's not a good name for this

Jerk:

Mm-mm.

Bitch:

guy. You should pick another name. But Judy finds a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue that

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

Ruba's had given to Bobby and it's very touching.

Jerk:

It is. It has a piece of paper rubber banded to it says, fine, you ass you win for once. Enjoy are. Also means Bobby won a bet against Rufus. And so it's only the right thing to do to drink it.

Bitch:

Also, you're all alcoholics.

Jerk:

So

Bitch:

So now we go back to the past.

Jerk:

yeah. And Dean and Elliot are staking out the diner where Snyder hangs out and they, uh, and we see Elliot bust out a flask and Dean's like, wait, what, what is happening here? And he's like, Oh, why do you think after I went after Capone, he had the best coach in Chicago.

Bitch:

Then he proceeds to just keep drinking this flask and he'll put it in front of Dean's face, but then just drink it himself. He's just a dick. Just

Jerk:

Let's go.

Bitch:

self-absorbed with this flask. This is rude.

Jerk:

very awkward. But Dean's like, Well, who died in your life that made you a hunter? Because that's how these hunters that like that we've interacted with before, like, oh, something awful happened to someone they loved. And that's how they became a hunter. And Elliot's like, What the fuck? How morbid are you? That didn't happen. I just had a situation where I ran into a bunch of vampires turning folks. I caught the bug. And

Bitch:

Yeah, so now we have the bug.

Jerk:

So basically he just outside of his like law enforcement stuff, this is something he can do where he can cut punch through the red tape with a silver bullet. And it's hunting sets me free. And Dean's like, so we

Bitch:

Ugh,

Jerk:

get a

Bitch:

Zen

Jerk:

little philosophical.

Bitch:

and the Art of Hunting by Elliot Ness.

Jerk:

And Dean's like, well, yeah, I started because my family did it, but I don't really know why I do it anymore. Cause we know Dean's been all blub nihilist about being a hunter and, oh, it's like, really fucking just like goes hard. He's like, cry me a river are all hunters this soft in the future.

Bitch:

Yeah, so basically he calls Dean a pussy and you know, probably because he's drunk and all this whiskey and he's just like, honey gives you clarity and makes you lucky. Blah, blah, blah. Oh look, there's

Jerk:

But

Bitch:

a broad.

Jerk:

it does say, oh, but they do say that it may you're making a difference. I thought that was the important part that I think is important to Dean. That Elliott does say, you know, you everybody dies. Eventually you're making a difference, though. I thought that was before he gets to the. It brings you clarity. I don't know whatever. Yeah, they see this pretty lady, pretty blonde woman in a red, really nice red coat, leave the diner and they're both checking her out. And then they realize that as she walks into the alley, Snyder is following her. And they're like, oh, shit, he's going to kill her next. But no, he's going to make out with her. But we find that out right before that, we get to see Elliot's trunk.

Bitch:

l like there should be like a:

Jerk:

I don't know. I don't got nothing. So yeah, it's pretty cool.

Bitch:

Oh, I know, it should be like, Andrea's sister is like, drunk.

Jerk:

Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Exactly. So they're like about to shoot Snyder and then they realized that he's making out with this woman and not killing her. So they kind of like go follow them. I don't know. This is gets a little unclear to me. And all of a sudden, Elliot's gonna stay at the house to like

Bitch:

That's

Jerk:

watch

Bitch:

what

Jerk:

the house

Bitch:

I think.

Jerk:

where

Bitch:

I

Jerk:

this

Bitch:

think

Jerk:

woman

Bitch:

they

Jerk:

lives.

Bitch:

cut something here. So,

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

but yeah. So I think they have followed them. They follow them out to

Jerk:

It's like...

Bitch:

the, to the

Jerk:

boonies.

Bitch:

boonies where, where the broad lives.

Jerk:

Mm-hmm.

Bitch:

And so,

Jerk:

Lila.

Bitch:

um, and so then he like finds a farmer and he's like, Hey farmer, man. Who's that lady?

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

And the farmer goes, why sure. Mr. Random police agent, FBI man. That lady is that lady. That's what happened.

Jerk:

Yeah, that's it. So Elliot's going to stay and like, watch the house. I don't know. And Dean's going to go meet up with Ezra to find out what her plan is to help them kill a god. And

Bitch:

Yeah

Jerk:

she's

Bitch:

so

Jerk:

like.

Bitch:

Elliot goes off of the field. Like he just goes

Jerk:

With

Bitch:

in the

Jerk:

a gun,

Bitch:

field.

Jerk:

just goes out of the field with a gun. Yeah, no biggie.

Bitch:

What the fuck?

Jerk:

It's very

Bitch:

Okay.

Jerk:

weird. So Ezra has a one thousand year old olive branch.

Bitch:

carved by

Jerk:

Carved.

Bitch:

vessel virgins and dipped

Jerk:

Mm-hmm.

Bitch:

in the blood if you don't want to know.

Jerk:

Yeah. And she says like, he's like, what do I do with it? It's like you stab Kronos in the heart with it. Duh. And they both realize, though, at this point in time, while Ezra already knew, but Dean finally realizes that if they kill Kronos, he's stuck there. And I was just like, it's not so bad. And she kisses him.

Bitch:

Yeah, she just starts sexually harassing Dean,

Jerk:

We're

Bitch:

which probably isn't great, but whatever, you go ask her. So,

Jerk:

I mean, he looks really good. So I'm just

Bitch:

yeah, I know

Jerk:

kidding.

Bitch:

the

Jerk:

Kidding.

Bitch:

part.

Jerk:

Does that make it

Bitch:

The

Jerk:

OK?

Bitch:

part,

Jerk:

That doesn't make

Bitch:

it

Jerk:

it

Bitch:

does

Jerk:

OK.

Bitch:

not make it okay, but the part, man. Anyway, so.

Jerk:

That is good. So she says, for luck, because I'm lucky. But as Dean's leaving, he has a revelation. Back to the future three, because he sees a letter on the table. So he borrows some paper. But back at the Booneys house that this woman lives in, Ezra is trying to stake it out, but is not hiding very well and gets confronted by Snyder slash Kronos slash whatever he is. And they kind of get into it and. And and Ezra Elliott loses his gun.

Bitch:

Oh, Elliot.

Jerk:

Yeah. Back in the house, though, we've got this woman. We've I think we've by now heard her name is Lila. She's setting a clock, which is like an interesting just visual choice. I really like that. That's

Bitch:

It was a choice,

Jerk:

clever.

Bitch:

yes.

Jerk:

And Kronos is like, hey, you need to pack a bag. You always want to know where I'm going when I leave. So this time you're going to come with me. We're going together. Just pack up. And she's like, what? He's like, no, no. Everything's perfect. Just let's just let's just go. Let's go.

Bitch:

You're a dick, man. He's being a dick and shady, and I wouldn't go anywhere with him either.

Jerk:

So back in town, Dean pulls up to what is currently in the modern time, the flop house that they're staying, that, you know, Sam is still staying in and goes up the door and like tells this dude who lives there, like he's some kind of special agent for termites and there's an outbreak and he needs to inspect the house.

Bitch:

And the old man's like, okay. And he's just forcing the old man is just being taken advantage of, but that's okay for this one time, just this one time.

Jerk:

Yeah. And he like goes upstairs, throws, moves the bed, like go straight upstairs, moves the bed, there's a pillow on the ground, lays down the way Sam would be sleeping to figure out precisely where he would put a, a sign to Sam. And so, and this guy is very confused.

Bitch:

As you would be. But in the present, Jodie has found Sam asleep on the table and sends him to bed. And I'm like, didn't you just drink a bottle of whiskey?

Jerk:

I mean, yeah. So she's like, yeah, you need to go right now. And he lays down and he sees Sam carved in one of the baseboards, which is a word I could not write down yesterday when I was watching this. I was like, base. What is the floorboard?

Bitch:

Jee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-

Jerk:

The baseboard and a piece is Sam, which I'm honestly kind of like somebody would have filled that in, but OK. Eventually, somebody would feel that. But he pops it off and there's a note from Dean. So he runs down to share it with Jodi and it has the things they needed. It's got the date, the plan, and it has Lila's name.

Bitch:

got the floozies name I just started calling her a floozy I don't know why

Jerk:

Why? She was lovely.

Bitch:

I don't

Jerk:

Poor

Bitch:

know why

Jerk:

Lila.

Bitch:

Liz a floozy so they find her in her home unable to work a TV remote like what happened to all of us one day when you just become the age you are unable to functionally work a TV remote anymore

Jerk:

That's

Bitch:

and

Jerk:

just

Bitch:

then

Jerk:

what

Bitch:

you will

Jerk:

happens.

Bitch:

drive all of your children crazy because you could no longer understand how remote works

Jerk:

th of:

Bitch:

Well, isn't that convenient?

Jerk:

Uh-huh. But she's basically like, yeah, that was Ethan, which that's who we know is, I guess, Mr. Snyder slash fedora slash hat man slash Kronos. He's like, yeah, he said a whole bunch of awful things and a stranger, you know, strangled that poor man. There were two policemen there. And Sam's like, was this one of them? She's like, yeah, Kronos sucks the life out of him.

Bitch:

She just choked the life out of that poor man. Oh no. So, Dean's gonna die. So we go back to the past and there are Crotus and Dean and they're fighting.

Jerk:

Yeah, because he, he sneaks in and they get in a fight and Elliot shows up and holds Lila hostage. And this is where we start going back and forth a lot again.

Bitch:

Yeah, and Kronos is still being a dick. He's trying to explain to Lila, I'm not that bad. I am murdering for you, sweetheart. That's what every woman likes to hear.

Jerk:

And well, and he's like, I'm a god and Dean's like, no, you're a monster. I think that was interesting. But I actually like, I don't know. I've got sympathy for these two. I got sympathy for Kronos, but kind of bad for him because he's saying basically it takes him three sacrifices is what he calls them as opposed to murders or kills. So he has to have three of those to be able to choose which time he's in. Otherwise, he just like floats through time. He has no control over where or when he is. And he

Bitch:

Yeah,

Jerk:

falls

Bitch:

because

Jerk:

in love.

Bitch:

you can't control time.

Jerk:

Well, I know, but I mean, like, he's just like bouncing around. Then he meets Lila and he falls in love with her and only way he can stay there

Bitch:

that

Jerk:

is.

Bitch:

he was gonna kill her. He was already trying. He was already choosing where he was going to go to before Lila. Because during the, like Dean gets to this and there he is like, she was going to be the third one. That's why she, he murdered one of her friends and he was going to kill her. But then he was like, you're a hot piece of ass. I'm not going to kill you.

Jerk:

I think he fell in love. I think he was I read it as he was in love with her and he was trying to stay with her and that's why he was killing.

Bitch:

Right, but he was she was going to be his victim and

Jerk:

How did

Bitch:

he

Jerk:

I do that?

Bitch:

dean specifically says it

Jerk:

Well, no, not like in the past, but not like now he fell in love with her.

Bitch:

He was, she was going to be his victim and then he decided not to kill her.

Jerk:

Right.

Bitch:

And then

Jerk:

Because

Bitch:

he

Jerk:

he

Bitch:

fell

Jerk:

was in love

Bitch:

in

Jerk:

with

Bitch:

love

Jerk:

her.

Bitch:

with her.

Jerk:

Yes. Yeah.

Bitch:

So

Jerk:

It's still

Bitch:

it's

Jerk:

dark,

Bitch:

like.

Jerk:

but he wasn't like going out like I'm murdery. Intentionally,

Bitch:

He was

Jerk:

he

Bitch:

murdering

Jerk:

was.

Bitch:

people before her.

Jerk:

I know that I'm saying, but he.

Bitch:

and he was gonna murder her.

Jerk:

He was killing them.

Bitch:

It can't

Jerk:

The minimal

Bitch:

be sweet.

Jerk:

number.

Bitch:

He was gonna kill her.

Jerk:

I'm not saying

Bitch:

That's

Jerk:

that was

Bitch:

like

Jerk:

sweet.

Bitch:

a serial

Jerk:

I'm saying I have

Bitch:

killer.

Jerk:

sympathy for.

Bitch:

Like if Ted Bundy and one of his victims fall in love, and then you're like, well, that's sweet. He just wanted to stay with her,

Jerk:

No, I

Bitch:

but

Jerk:

saw

Bitch:

he's

Jerk:

it like

Bitch:

still

Jerk:

as

Bitch:

Ted Bundy.

Jerk:

I see it kind of like Amy ish where she didn't have a choice. Like she had to kill someone to be able to for her son to survive. And that was that's kind of I see a parallel

Bitch:

But he

Jerk:

here.

Bitch:

didn't have to murder before, like he could just be floating through time. He chose, he chooses,

Jerk:

That sounds awful.

Bitch:

but he chooses to kill people to be able to go to pen... Fluffing through time would be fine.

Jerk:

Ha!

Bitch:

Think of all the stuff you get to see.

Jerk:

It's very

Bitch:

It's

Jerk:

stressful.

Bitch:

not worth murdering people.

Jerk:

No, I'm not saying that's okay. I just think it's a shitty situation. That's what my point was. I had sympathy for

Bitch:

Give

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his situation,

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us sh-

Jerk:

not that he chose to kill me.

Bitch:

I don't know, serial killers, you don't get to be in love, you're a serial killer. He's the serial killer!

Jerk:

It's not the same.

Bitch:

It is! It's totally the same!

Jerk:

Ah.

Bitch:

So it's the same. Tonight on this week's

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Bitch:

Devils Trap Podcast, Deanna and Liz have paid whether or

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whether

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not

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father

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Cronus,

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time is a fucking serial

Bitch:

his

Jerk:

killer.

Bitch:

father, type of serial killer on this week's

Jerk:

Oh,

Bitch:

state line. Oh.

Jerk:

I just I don't think he was relishing killing people. He was doing it as a function of

Bitch:

I think,

Jerk:

what

Bitch:

well,

Jerk:

he thought

Bitch:

okay.

Jerk:

was survival.

Bitch:

See, yeah,

Jerk:

That was my in my

Bitch:

I think

Jerk:

that's

Bitch:

he liked

Jerk:

my take.

Bitch:

it. I think he liked it. Like as Dean said, you just said, I actually didn't give a fuck. Like he didn't care. He didn't view humans as anything. He was

Jerk:

except

Bitch:

a god.

Jerk:

for Lila.

Bitch:

It's like

Jerk:

At

Bitch:

Zeus

Jerk:

the end,

Bitch:

fucking a swan, man.

Jerk:

which

Bitch:

Like,

Jerk:

is not good.

Bitch:

I don't

Jerk:

Either way,

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know.

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all

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Fuck your

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we

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authority.

Jerk:

know. Either way, so but Lila is not having this. She's upset, obviously, and, you know, as she should

Bitch:

Because she

Jerk:

be, this

Bitch:

understands

Jerk:

is upsetting. Well,

Bitch:

he's a monster. He's a murderer.

Jerk:

I mean, I'm not saying he's not a monster or a murderer. I'm saying I have sympathy for the situation, because I think he felt like he didn't have a choice. That's what I was saying. So. Elliot's like, this is insane. And so we've got the stupid steak and Dean's gonna go after him, but right as it's happening, Kronos starts glowing because right at that moment is exactly when Jodie and Sam have started summoning him. So it's kind of good timing, I guess they pulled it off.

Bitch:

Is this Joda's first spell?

Jerk:

I think it might be.

Bitch:

Aww.

Jerk:

That is cute. And Kronos is pissed. Pissed when they get to the flop house, because it works.

Bitch:

And

Jerk:

It

Bitch:

while

Jerk:

all

Bitch:

that's

Jerk:

works.

Bitch:

happening, like, Nassil is like, throws a steak at D and he's like, Hey, untouchable. And so the steak goes

Jerk:

Goes

Bitch:

through

Jerk:

through the bright

Bitch:

time

Jerk:

light. Yeah.

Bitch:

with the red light singing.

Jerk:

It's ridiculous.

Bitch:

Yeah, so we've got a whiny Kronos.

Jerk:

Carlos is upset, Sam gets the steak and stabs him. And his

Bitch:

and hicks.

Jerk:

veins glow and he's like, before I die, I'm gonna tell you your future. And it's covered in thick black ooze everywhere. Any guys?

Bitch:

Anyways, it's like Black Blues is it's everywhere. They are everywhere. Enjoy oblivion and then poof he dies. Enjoy oblivion.

Jerk:

Ah.

Bitch:

I will thank you very much. One beat. Uh, so casting couch, casting couch. Yay.

Jerk:

Sure. So we've got a couple of folks. So our Elliott Ness was played by Nicholas Lee, spelled L.A. Yeah. Hello. He was a regular character named Ricky Caruso on the show. The commission played Alex Krychek and Michael in The X-Files. That was a regular ongoing character, including the movie as well. He was in a handful of episodes of CSI, handful of episodes of V, multiple episodes of Arrow, and a single episode of Once Upon a Time, NCIS, and more. So he's got been in a lot of stuff, just a lot of small or single roles over time. And then Cronos, AKA Ethan Snyder, was played by Jason Doering. He was in... in single episodes of Baywatch, CSI. He was Jason in Deep Impact, Detective Will Kinney in the originals, Chase Graves as a recurring character in I Zombie. And as Liz is so excited about Logan in the Veronica Mars show and movie.

Bitch:

And he's like, this character actually kind of fits him for like, cause he was such like a dick in that, but like also like sometimes he wasn't a dick. Yeah. It's just like, he was also very good looking in that and then very good looking in this. And then like within the Veronica Mars like sequel, then like he had like, I don't know. He like went in a weird diet. He was weird. But anyways, yeah.

Jerk:

y because we're not really in:

Bitch:

Yeah, what I like about her like after we were both looking at her stuff is just you know She's a classic like working actress, you know

Jerk:

Ciao.

Bitch:

Like she has been like working

Jerk:

A lot of things.

Bitch:

since like the 80s and like

Jerk:

Ciao.

Bitch:

she has stuff coming out You know now the stuff is in pre-production. So good for her. Good on you So, all right this episode time child was stupid

Jerk:

I mean, in my super superficial way, it was some good eye candy episode overall.

Bitch:

No, it was, yes, it was a very unoggly. Well,

Jerk:

Well...

Bitch:

yeah, that was a great episode for that.

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

Uh, visually it was great. Um,

Jerk:

Yeah,

Bitch:

you know,

Jerk:

I

Bitch:

the,

Jerk:

agree.

Bitch:

I like the forties. It was just like, there are some wonderful colors in it too. Like,

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

like Elliot's Elliot mess had like this like gorgeous, like a rust colored coat on him wearing like, hello. But

Jerk:

Yeah.

Bitch:

it's so it was, it was visually stunning. It was amusing. It was fun.

Jerk:

It was fine. It's still time travel, which is annoying. I stand by

Bitch:

And

Jerk:

it.

Bitch:

so, you know, and, you know, we're. So what aren't we dealing with? So we haven't, we didn't deal with the Leviathan's.

Jerk:

No Leviathans,

Bitch:

We

Jerk:

no

Bitch:

kind

Jerk:

Lucifer.

Bitch:

of know, like Sam is fine.

Jerk:

Mm-hmm.

Bitch:

Apparently,

Jerk:

Apparently.

Bitch:

we kind of deal with Bobby a little bit, but not

Jerk:

Little bit

Bitch:

much. Yeah. So it feels like, you know, like as much as I love the premise and I love the Elliot and us idea that like, it's still like, Hey.

Jerk:

Like

Bitch:

Love

Jerk:

just

Bitch:

you so much,

Jerk:

forget

Bitch:

though.

Jerk:

all the long back story that's going on. That seems super important. Let's just have a fun episode.

Bitch:

Yeah, which is fine. I'm not mad at it. All right, so is that how we end this? Just like, I'm not mad

Jerk:

Yeah,

Bitch:

at it.

Jerk:

not mad at it.

Bitch:

All right, cheers, jerk.

Jerk:

Cheers, bitch.

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About the Podcast

Devil's Trap: A Supernatural Podcast
A Supernatural fan show where longtime fan Liz “trapped” Diana, into watching for the first time. Come along for a spoiler free watch with crafty urban fantasy enthusiasts.
We're going back to the beginning of the road and watching Supernatural from the beginning. For your host Liz, it's probably her fifth time through. For your other host Diana, it's her first. She claims she was scared. Naturally as a supportive friend, Liz will attempt to exploit this fear as much as possible. We also dive into the spooky spook in the show in whatever way we want - occult, folklore, true crime, shopping, GAME SHOWS?

Watch the videos on you tube @devilstrappodcast
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About your hosts

Elizabeth Waddell

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Liz spends her time in Dripping Springs, TX crafting and binge watching shows.

Diana Cox

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Diana lives in Dallas, TX and spends her time seeing/making music, going to car shows, drinking, and caring for 3 large dogs (+ the husband).