10:22 The Prisoner
It's Season 10, Episode 22 - the Prisoner. Where everyone walks around in shirts covered in biohazard, but Crowley gets his groove back. We get to part 4 of the Rosaleen Norton saga, discussing yet another of her arrests by the King's Cross Vice Squad.
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Transcript
On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we question monologues and personal hygiene.
Speaker B:But Crowley gets his groove back.
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker A:Welcome to Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:I'm Liz.
Speaker A:And this week we're going to talk about season 10, episode 22, the Prisoner.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:How you been?
Speaker A:Yeah, good.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I feel like I've done stuff, but I don't know.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:What have I done?
Speaker A:I feel like it's Memorial Day.
Speaker B:We have.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I feel.
Speaker B:I don't know, I feel like we've had like 90 days since we last talked, but it's only been like, because we're also doing this later.
Speaker A:I know what we did.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker A:I know what I've done.
Speaker A:I think I feel like there's something else, too.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, we had kind of a chill Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker A:I got in the pool twice.
Speaker A:That was fun.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker A:Pool time.
Speaker A:I don't know what.
Speaker A:What else did I do this weekend?
Speaker A:I went and ate at a new sushi place in our neighborhood.
Speaker A:That was really good.
Speaker A:And then I went.
Speaker A:It was really good.
Speaker A:And then it's very expensive because we had all the things.
Speaker A:And then you have a cocktail and you want more of the things.
Speaker B:I'm super jealous of that.
Speaker B:I have no idea.
Speaker B:The last time I had sushi.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:And then we went and saw Ryan Adams.
Speaker B:Oh, that's right.
Speaker B:The four hour show.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was a doozy.
Speaker A:You know, I'm not a super fan and I was going with other people that were very excited.
Speaker A:And his show is notoriously based on the artist's mood at the time.
Speaker A:And so I was kind of intrigued.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah, there was one set.
Speaker A:The first set is like him doing this everything from this one album, Heartbreaker.
Speaker A:And then the second set is the hits.
Speaker A:And he does selective covers based on the venue he's at, which kind of.
Speaker A:That's kind of cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it was a lot of stories.
Speaker A:A lot of stories.
Speaker A:Entertaining stories, though.
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker A:Very entertaining story.
Speaker B:I couldn't tell the difference between Brian.
Speaker A:Or Ryan Adams, so I said that like five times.
Speaker A:And everybody, like Dave kept getting mad at me.
Speaker A:I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker A:And he's like, no.
Speaker B:Is he in the.
Speaker B:A kid?
Speaker A:Like, apparently the different.
Speaker A:Well, apparently Ryan Adams was in a band called Whiskey Town, which is a very popular old country band who had a massive rivalry with old 97s.
Speaker A:But they're cool now.
Speaker A:That's what I.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's the story.
Speaker A:And I think Dave's told me that, like, 12 times.
Speaker A:Probably not just in the last, like, time leading up to this show.
Speaker A:Just in general, he's told me the story, and God bless if I'm just giving him a.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But, yeah, so I had that awareness going in and they covered it, and then he covered all 97s song, so it's kind of cool.
Speaker A:But, yeah, so it was there.
Speaker A:It was much more entertaining than anticipated.
Speaker A:And then, yeah, mostly we just kind of hung out, got some pool time, went to show, and, like, shot went to the mall.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That was my exciting.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:It was a fairly chill holiday weekend.
Speaker A:I kind of needed that, though.
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Rest is good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Weird.
Speaker B:Weird.
Speaker A:What have you been up to?
Speaker A:What you got?
Speaker B:I have been banging my body against things.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it's just been a lot of aerialist stuff.
Speaker B:And so, like, I got to go to Austin a few times to go to my old gym, and I did got to meet up with some of my old instructors, and one of them had a workshop called Lions and Snakes.
Speaker B:And that was all about roles, which are like.
Speaker B:So what I.
Speaker B:This class was about the lira hoop, which is the big round metal thing.
Speaker B:And so you're rolling around it, like, after you get into this pose just called lion poses.
Speaker B:Like, one leg, one knees hooked on and one shoulders through.
Speaker B:That's like one pose.
Speaker B:And then, like, you're just running up.
Speaker B:But so, yeah, my feet and my vagina and my thighs and my calves got severely covered in bruises that day.
Speaker B:And I rented an Airbnb for that night, which was so wannabe Instagram fabulous, but, like, half ass.
Speaker B:Like, so we like the pool that was surrounded by a deck, but written on the deck in mark because the deck was made out of, like, plywood.
Speaker B:Like, don't stand on this.
Speaker B:Don't even think about sitting here, because it was just around this pool that I'm pretty sure somebody made by hand.
Speaker B:Like, this was, like, everything.
Speaker B:I was pretty sure this was a DIY pool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that was fun.
Speaker B:But they also had a Jacuzzi, which is why I got this Airbnb, because I have no bathroom in my house.
Speaker B:And I knew that after banging myself on a hoop, I was going to want to sit in a bathtub.
Speaker B:And I did, and that was great.
Speaker B:But I couldn't put any bath things in there because they said it would clog their tub, their drains.
Speaker B:Ooh.
Speaker B:And also they said no glitter.
Speaker B:Zero glitter.
Speaker B:They're very anti glitter.
Speaker B:At that house.
Speaker B:But they had lots of pictures of boobs and butts and people smoking weed.
Speaker B:So my jam.
Speaker B:And then I went to Ariel summer camp on Monday and there was part of it was invented apparatus jam.
Speaker B:And so circus people, you know, like to put different things together and then jump on them and hang from them and see what happens.
Speaker B:So they just basically had those spoons spread out through the gym.
Speaker B:And I got to.
Speaker B:I got to play on the cube, which is what it sounds like.
Speaker B:It's like it's a cube made of metal rod.
Speaker B:So like, like instead of being on my circle, I was on a big square and getting Dillard.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And trying to figure out how do I do that without hitting my head.
Speaker B:It like.
Speaker B:And it balances in different ways and it's been some different stuff.
Speaker B:Then one was the hoop and it was perpendicular to the ground instead of being.
Speaker B:Instead of hanging vertically, it was horizontal.
Speaker B:It was horizontal to the ground because it was hung by four straps instead of.
Speaker B:Instead of one or two.
Speaker B:Usually lyra hoop is hung by one strap.
Speaker B:You can't have two.
Speaker B:But so it was hung horizontally by four.
Speaker B:So it was like being from a chandelier.
Speaker B:And my instructor said, you know, she'd been watching a Cirque du Soleil thing and she was thinking it was very similar to like what they were doing and their chandelier of the show.
Speaker B:So that was really fun to do.
Speaker B:Hurts a lot.
Speaker B:Like I was like trying to starfish on it and that hurt a lot.
Speaker B:Then there was another one that was a.
Speaker B:A baby hoop and then like a strap and then a bigger hoop.
Speaker B:So then you had like two hoops to play with.
Speaker B:And I've seen that one before.
Speaker B:So that was fun.
Speaker B:And I have enough hoops that I could do that with.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, that could be a fun thing to learn.
Speaker B:And then there was like bungee, like two bungee straps.
Speaker B:So like it was like being in straps, but they were bungee.
Speaker B:So they were like super bouncy.
Speaker B:So that was fun to play in.
Speaker B:There was rope, which.
Speaker B:Fuck you.
Speaker B:I'm not in gym class.
Speaker B:But the 75 year old lady who is my class was like.
Speaker B:And she's like up that rope.
Speaker A:And I was like, I never could climb a rope.
Speaker B:Yeah, no.
Speaker B:I was like, I try to make me do it.
Speaker A:I had.
Speaker A:They tried to make us do it in the army.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, and I'm terrified of it.
Speaker B:Like I have such trauma from it that I know.
Speaker B:Like, it's just.
Speaker A:No, Then we definitely army.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then they had, like, this huge.
Speaker B:I forget what it's called.
Speaker B:It's basically you take fabric, like a silk fabric or a hammock, and instead of doing it for.
Speaker B:So this is hung like a hammock, but it's giant.
Speaker B:Like a giant fucking hammock of aerial fabric that's, you know, like.
Speaker B:I don't know how to explain how big it was, but just like.
Speaker B:Like 20ft or something, you know?
Speaker B:So it was like a giant swing, and that was super fun to play.
Speaker B:And then she also brought out this tube that was just this long piece of fabric that she had sewn all the way down the sides.
Speaker B:And then the woman with glasses just got in.
Speaker B:She was like, being a ghost.
Speaker B:And it was really fun.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I spent.
Speaker B:That was how I spent my holiday.
Speaker B:And I, you know, feels like I'm gonna pay to go.
Speaker B:And then we had, like, well, honestly, it was more uncomfortable than, you know, which just playing in those things are fine.
Speaker B:But the second half was with the woman who was like my first aerial instructor, who is a burlesque performer and an aerialist.
Speaker B:And it was all about performance, right?
Speaker B:So we had to keep choreographing routines and then presenting them to the class.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And that was why I signed up for this, because I am so afraid of performing this stuff.
Speaker B:And so it was like the baby step of, okay, like, let's get the tips.
Speaker B:And, like, she was also, like, talking about lines and things and learning just how to make your performance look better artistically and visually.
Speaker B:And then I also learned there's an aerial Olympics, and they have their age.
Speaker B:Their age groups are like 10 years at a time, right?
Speaker B:So it's like, there's like, little kids and then the adults.
Speaker B:It's like 20 to 30, and then 40 to 50 and 50 to 70, 60, instead of just being a big adult group, which is kind of awesome because that means, like, Right.
Speaker B:I really think that narrows down how many people I would be competing against.
Speaker B:So, like, I'm okay with winning by default.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Or second place, because there was two of us.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So also, I just, you know, like, I am not, you know.
Speaker B:You know, I'm not pro competitive things, but I am a nerd who likes to be judged and told, like, what I'm doing correct and what I'm not doing correct.
Speaker B:And I like things, right?
Speaker B:Like, external validation is important, but also, if you're doing something like this.
Speaker A:Oh, no, you want to.
Speaker B:It's a helpful thing.
Speaker B:And so I'm like, this is Kind of cool to learn about.
Speaker B:So something like, hey, let's add something else to my schedule.
Speaker B:As I'm, like, sitting here so tired.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:I don't have time to, like, go to the goddamn grocery store.
Speaker B:Like, I washed my hair today because I smelled, you know, So I don't know.
Speaker B:It sounded fun.
Speaker B:So that is what I did.
Speaker B:And then I went and got a massage a couple of days later.
Speaker B:So I didn't.
Speaker B:So I wasn't broken.
Speaker B:So I could.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I got an ice bath because.
Speaker B:You got a fun ice barrel.
Speaker A:We do have an ice barrel.
Speaker A:So it is very hillbilly feeling, except.
Speaker B:For the fact that it could go with that pool.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:I don't think.
Speaker B:Oh, I.
Speaker B:I don't think there's any supernatural news, but Countdown, their release date came out.
Speaker B:Yeah, I want to say it's like, mid June, June 25th, something like that.
Speaker A:And they posted a trailer for it as well.
Speaker B:Oh, I haven't watched a trailer yet.
Speaker B:I know Jensen, though, is saying that it's a very deep.
Speaker B:Similar to Dean character, so that people.
Speaker B:He thought people were gonna like it.
Speaker B:So I don't have any TV to watch right now.
Speaker B:So I'm like, please come out, Countdown.
Speaker A:I'm trying to think what I'm watching right now.
Speaker A:We're still watching a whole bunch of.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:I'm still watching crappy reality TV.
Speaker A:No, there's only one crappy reality show.
Speaker A:Just one 90 day.
Speaker A:Yeah, we.
Speaker A:We started Deli Boys.
Speaker A:That's about the only new thing I guess, on ours.
Speaker B:I will say I have been watching Big Bang Theory, which was one really weird.
Speaker B:Because I went to this event that was at a place in San Antonio called Black Potion, and it's a gaming bar.
Speaker B:So like a tabletop gaming place.
Speaker B:And it was like, in a back room, like, doing.
Speaker B:They have comedy.
Speaker B:And I was like, what?
Speaker B:Like, it's all in this Woodlawn area that I love the scene of, so I don't spend enough time on.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But I come out of this back room, and when I gone in that, like, the place had been pretty empty.
Speaker B:And, like, apparently it was tabletop game night, and it was packed full of nerds.
Speaker B:There was like 50 nerd boys there and, like, two girls.
Speaker B:And I'm like, ah.
Speaker B:It was like walking out into Big Bang Theory, like, into the comic shop and.
Speaker B:And then on one of the FBI is the guy who played Stewart.
Speaker B:Big Bang Theory was an informant on that who gets, like, shot between the eyes.
Speaker B:Within the first five minutes of it.
Speaker B:So I'm like, watching him like on Big Bang Theory there.
Speaker B:I'm like, you know, like 10 years, the job you're gonna get is gonna be on this television show and you're gonna be shot in the eyes.
Speaker B:It's really, it was very disturbing.
Speaker A:But anyhow, so little burger spot by us occasionally like to, like, locally own, like, a DJ owns it.
Speaker A:Like this burger shop that's really good, these smash burgers.
Speaker A:But every once in a while, like, I think I forget how often they're doing it, but they've been doing, like, magic the nights.
Speaker A:And I think that's hilarious and fun.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:I, I, I.
Speaker B:My friends was like, don't judge.
Speaker B:I'm like, I'm not judging the nerds.
Speaker A:I'm allowed to be amused and still.
Speaker B:Like, some of them were hot.
Speaker B:Like, they were hot nerds in there.
Speaker B:I should have been like, okay, maybe I'll open tender to see who's here.
Speaker B:Because some of them were tattoo super tattooed dudes.
Speaker B:But there are also a lot of.
Speaker A:You know, a lot of stereotypical nerds.
Speaker B:A lot of stereotype people who, like, fit the, who fit the bill.
Speaker B:But I mean, they're my people.
Speaker B:Like, I can't be judgy of them.
Speaker B:I do wish I was like, I do a podcast on the tele show Supernatural.
Speaker B:Like, I really don't think I can be, like, calling anybody's nerd card here.
Speaker B:So speaking of Supernatural.
Speaker A:Oh, there we go.
Speaker A:Segue.
Speaker A:Good job.
Speaker B:So this week's episode.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, we aren't.
Speaker B:We started with a longer.
Speaker B:Our intro, but whatever.
Speaker B:You love us.
Speaker B:So this is the Prisoner, right?
Speaker B:And so the episode's title comes from the Iron Maiden song the Prisoner, which is based on the British TV so show of the same name.
Speaker B:And so I went and watched the video and one, you know, it starts off with the intro to the Prisoner, where they're like, your number is blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:He's like, I have no number.
Speaker B:And they played that intro to the TV show every time it's their walk on right before they have that song.
Speaker B:And then I'm like, do they have to pay?
Speaker B:Like, every time they play that opening to the TV show or as their intro.
Speaker B:But then I also just realized that I kind of just wanted all their clothes from this 19, like, 83 video video.
Speaker B:Bruce Dickinson had on a tight red tank top that was kind.
Speaker B:And some kind of spandex leggings and this wide leather belt and then a wrist gauntlet.
Speaker B:And I was like, yes, I would totally rock that.
Speaker B:Then Steve Harris had on this black and Black and white vertical striped streamless top tee that was like tight.
Speaker B:It was so good.
Speaker B:I'm like, where the.
Speaker B:Can I get that?
Speaker B:And then I just started kind of like thinking about how is Dickinson even hitting those high notes?
Speaker B:Like, that's ridiculous.
Speaker B:Nobody should be hit those.
Speaker B: where I learned that once in: Speaker B:Sharon Osborne had all these people come out and throw eggs at Bruce Dickinson and like took over the.
Speaker B:The PA system to have a chat.
Speaker B:Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy.
Speaker B:When they were coming on and off and then kept with their sound and tro.
Speaker B:It was this whole crazy scandal.
Speaker B:And I didn't know that happened.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was gonna do a whole.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker B:I decided we have a lot to talk about because that's a summary of that side quest.
Speaker B:But yeah, so there was this whole thing because.
Speaker B:And it was like Sharon that was doing it and like, oh, Sharon.
Speaker B:Oh, Sharon.
Speaker B:And that thing she said were kind of me, but she's just like her.
Speaker B:Both her and Ozzy have said that he's a dick.
Speaker B:And so I love.
Speaker B:But I love a rock feud.
Speaker B:And so like, yeah, I think that one's worth digging into if you want some time.
Speaker B:Like just kind of Google.
Speaker B:Google Iron Maiden versus And then like there was this whole thing about.
Speaker B:Because that was the 10 year OzFest and like Sabbath was like his.
Speaker B:Ozzy was playing with Sabbath.
Speaker B:And so Sabbath and Maiden.
Speaker B:It was this huge thing.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I didn't know about it because I was York and living like a real rock and roll life.
Speaker B:But whatever.
Speaker B:Anyhow.
Speaker B:All right, so that's the story of the prisoner.
Speaker B:And you know, listening to the lyrics of the song too, it kind of.
Speaker B:It makes sense.
Speaker B:There's a lot of.
Speaker B:It's about, you know, I'm breaking free and like, you're not your people not owning him.
Speaker B:And the past being in the past.
Speaker B:This was episode 22.
Speaker B:So we're one episode away from the.
Speaker B:The finale of this season.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:It was directed by Thomas J.
Speaker B:Wright, who we.
Speaker B:In this season with episode two, Reichenbach, which I learned was the Moriarty Sherlock Holmes battle scene at the falls.
Speaker B:And that this was also written by Andrew Dab, who also wrote that.
Speaker B:So thank you guys for teaching me that.
Speaker B:That that came up in an episode of Watson.
Speaker B:So I was like, I know what that is.
Speaker B:And so Andrew Dabb, though, we also saw him this season.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:The things he left behind.
Speaker B:And episode 17, Inside Man.
Speaker B:All right, so we started off with a school getting out.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the school is called Stein Hall.
Speaker A: It was established in: Speaker A:And we've got.
Speaker A:We're in Shreveport School.
Speaker B:There's the name of the building.
Speaker A:The building.
Speaker A:I don't know, but a building on the campus.
Speaker A:And so these kids are exiting.
Speaker A:It's like this.
Speaker A:It's high school is what it looks like.
Speaker A:And the stereotypical bad boys.
Speaker B:It's high school, but it's preppy rich kids.
Speaker B:Private school.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And the stereotypical bad boys are teasing the stereotypical nerdy Stein, who may have been on his way to play Magic the Gathering.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker B:I mean, yeah, I mean, they're stereotypical, but they're also just like.
Speaker B: Like, especially for: Speaker B:And they are, like, picking on this kid and like, being like, man, have you even seen a boob?
Speaker B:And I'm like, oh, are they still doing that?
Speaker A:Like, it was so lame.
Speaker B:But then.
Speaker A:And the ringleader has a terrible tattoo.
Speaker A:Honestly.
Speaker B:Oh, they're also.
Speaker A:He's so bad.
Speaker B:Tattoos that look like he's got, like a sleep.
Speaker B:Like an actual sleeve.
Speaker A:It's like a.
Speaker A:It's like a flaming skulls.
Speaker A:Bad.
Speaker A:Anyways, anyways, so.
Speaker B:But the kid doesn't back down.
Speaker B:In fact.
Speaker A:No, he kind of rips him a new one.
Speaker A:It's so good.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:It makes fun of him for pretending to be hood with his, you know, 100 haircut and hybrid keys for his car.
Speaker A:Bets his dad's a dentist and mom's full of Botox.
Speaker A:And they both bang the pool boy.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker B:And then he, like, as he's going off, he's like, you're afraid of black people.
Speaker B:Even Will Smith.
Speaker B:And this was before Will Smith slapped the slap that was heard around the world.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker B:So some nerd power is going on here.
Speaker A:And even, like, hits the burns are so sick that this ringleader bullies, like, little, like, backup dudes are laughing at him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which is always the best, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:If they're that good.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:He's big mad.
Speaker A:And so he.
Speaker A:He's gonna call this kid who we figure out is a Stein.
Speaker A:Remember the Stein family?
Speaker A:You call him a.
Speaker A:And shove him.
Speaker B:Yeah, from behind, too.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But then there's a limo pulling up.
Speaker A:Well, so this is the debadged Mercedes.
Speaker A:And we saw this because I had trouble identifying it.
Speaker A:It was in the last episode, so we know this is a Stein vehicle.
Speaker A:So it's a Mercedes, but it.
Speaker A:Badges have been removed.
Speaker A:So that means like the.
Speaker A:The little.
Speaker A:The circle with the three lines.
Speaker A:That's gone kind of fascinating.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That's gone on the whole car.
Speaker A:On the wheels, too.
Speaker A:Just saying.
Speaker A:It's kind of crazy they did that.
Speaker B:Is that a security thing?
Speaker B:Like, I don't know.
Speaker A:It's probably.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:It's probably a rich person thing that I don't understand.
Speaker A:I'm gonna say it's a rich person thing.
Speaker A:It's a branding thing.
Speaker B:I bet it's not like the place where I took my car to get my tire patched on Friday and there.
Speaker B:Or whatever that was.
Speaker B:And they're like.
Speaker B:Like, your tires are bald.
Speaker B:I'm like, I didn't.
Speaker B:He's like, she just wants to get home.
Speaker B:It was such a great tire shop.
Speaker B:Like it.
Speaker B:Tire shop in Austin.
Speaker B:And they were having such terrible drama.
Speaker B:I felt so bad for the manager and he was trying so hard.
Speaker B:Anyhow, so we've got the Mercedes pulling up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I believe this is Eli who exits the Mercedes.
Speaker B:Would.
Speaker B:I had to pull the transcript to go look at who.
Speaker B:Which of these freaking.
Speaker B:It is Louisiana Southern boys were who.
Speaker A:They do look alike.
Speaker A:The guy.
Speaker A:The guy's playing Eli and Eldon especially is so rough.
Speaker A:Anyways, so it's Eli and he's like, is there a problem?
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then Buffalo kid starts to answer and he's like, wasn't asking you, dick bag.
Speaker A:It's funny.
Speaker A:I appreciate it.
Speaker A:He called him a dick bag.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker A:And so we find out that the young Stein that attends the school is Cyrus.
Speaker A:And they are going to leave.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And later we see wannabe Eminem walking down the street while the Mercedes follows him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He's being tailed.
Speaker A:And he realizes he's being tailed.
Speaker A:So he tries to slyly, like, run into the alley to hide, but he runs sm.
Speaker A:Back into another sign.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker A:Eli.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Runs.
Speaker A:Run straight into Eli's chest.
Speaker A:And he's like, I don't have any beef with you.
Speaker B:So this one was Eli.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I think it's still Eli.
Speaker A:I think we are still with you.
Speaker B:Doesn't have an arm.
Speaker A:So we don't have Eldon yet.
Speaker B:Like, I've gotten to the point where I have it in my brain, Eldon has no arm.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So it's Eli till we see armless man again.
Speaker B:Or another cousin that we don't have any.
Speaker B:Well, I'm assuming it's Eli.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:And then the.
Speaker A:All of a sudden, somebody reaches over his head from behind and puts a plastic bag on his head and suffocates.
Speaker B:This kid, which I think is overreacting.
Speaker B:But okay.
Speaker B:So he gets back.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:That's terrible.
Speaker A:Is that his word Bagged?
Speaker A:It's bad.
Speaker B:I just made it a word.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:That's what I called it.
Speaker B:So he gets back.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was like, eek.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:Of course it's a clear bag.
Speaker A:Like, do people really have, like, those, like, laying around?
Speaker A:I'd have like a grocery sack maybe.
Speaker A:But those are usually not clear.
Speaker B:This is part of their MO So I feel like they have a kit.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Because they bought a roll.
Speaker B:Do this more than once.
Speaker B:So they have like, probably like before one of those minions jobs is to go out and buy those bags.
Speaker B:And then to make.
Speaker B:They didn't have Amazon then.
Speaker B:So somebody had to go to a store and buy those.
Speaker B:Those and then make sure that everybody had them and that they didn't run out.
Speaker B:Because if you ran out, then the signs were going to kill you.
Speaker B:Clearly.
Speaker B:So then we go from this upsetting thing to the woods to something that is upsetting for a different reason.
Speaker B:And they are making a funeral pyre for Charlie.
Speaker B:And they start having memories.
Speaker B:And I immediately just started bawling.
Speaker A:And we've got Patty.
Speaker A:And we've got Patty Griffin playing.
Speaker A:I mean, it's a.
Speaker B:Which is like a text that makes every Texas girl cry.
Speaker B:You just like, found the thing that just like clicks my.
Speaker B:My menstrual driven hormones right now.
Speaker B:And it's just like, that's really sad.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:But then you throw some boy drama in there because Sam and Dean are mad at each other.
Speaker A:This is not a we are uniting to say farewell to Charlie moment at all.
Speaker B:No, it's a very bad funeral scene.
Speaker A:Bad, bad funeral scene.
Speaker A:And Sam says that he's gonna miss her and he's sorry.
Speaker A:And Dean snaps and pops off and says that he needs to shut up.
Speaker A:He got her killed and he doesn't get to apologize.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Then, you know, Sam's trying going again, saying like, dude, we're just trying to help you.
Speaker B:And then of course, is just like, I don't need help.
Speaker B:Sam again tries to justify it, and Dean is just digging it.
Speaker A:He is not.
Speaker A:And then he says that Sam should be up there on the pyre, not Charlie.
Speaker B:You went too far.
Speaker B:Dean too over the line.
Speaker A:Over the line.
Speaker A:That was too much.
Speaker A:And so he's like, yep, y' all you, Castiel.
Speaker A:In the book, all that ends now is what Dean says.
Speaker A:And he's gonna go find whoever did this and rip them apart and everything and everyone they love.
Speaker A:And, yeah, he's out.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's going on his vengeance party.
Speaker B:And Sam was just like, dude, is this you or is this the mark?
Speaker B:And just, like, does it matter?
Speaker B:Which is why he should be Batman.
Speaker B:I mean, he is Batman, but this is clearly like him auditioning for Batman here.
Speaker B:So then we go from this, like, okay, so this horrible hunter's funeral for Charlie has happened.
Speaker B:So this has happened.
Speaker B:Which is not the only bad thing.
Speaker B:Anyway, so we go from that to the video game.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Cyrus Stein is playing online video games with his friend.
Speaker A:And he's.
Speaker A:His friend's like, hey, you're still coming to moving to la.
Speaker A:And he's like, hell, yeah, I am.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:My family is cuckoo.
Speaker A:And then his friend's like, oh, they know.
Speaker A:And he's like, hell, no.
Speaker A:They would kill me if they knew I was trying to leave.
Speaker A:They are scary.
Speaker B:Literally kill me.
Speaker A:Scary, weird.
Speaker A:And then Eli interrupts his.
Speaker B:Sounds like a compliment to me, but yeah.
Speaker A:Well, Eli interrupts to say that his dad wants to see him, so he does not look stoked about this at all.
Speaker A:But we cut to the lab, where it's Eldon missing his arm and getting talked to by.
Speaker A:Oh, gosh, Monroe.
Speaker B:Monroe.
Speaker A:Monroe is.
Speaker B:I called him the patriarch at first.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:And then I was.
Speaker B:And then Monroe once, he.
Speaker B:When he came back, and I was reminded.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he's like.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:Wants to know about the book.
Speaker A:And he's like, you know, he's.
Speaker A:You know, El Elden's like, look, I may have dropped.
Speaker A:I may have up on the book, but I've got a.
Speaker A:A.
Speaker A:A treasure trove for you.
Speaker A:Because I was in the goddamn bunker.
Speaker A:The bunker is full of all the magic stuff.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And he's like, I did not even have time to wash my shirt.
Speaker B:I am still wearing the gross shirt that I used to massacre Charlie in.
Speaker B:Yeah, my arm.
Speaker B:And I just have not had time to put a T shirt.
Speaker A:No time for that.
Speaker B:Take a shower.
Speaker A:None.
Speaker B:And, yeah, I'm trying to.
Speaker A:So gross.
Speaker B:I had to smell so bad.
Speaker A:So Eli and Cyrus come in, and we pull back a curtain, and who is there, bound and gagged but awake on the gurney, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker A:I don't know, but it's the fucking.
Speaker B:Bully kid surgery table.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:So that's gonna bug me, But.
Speaker B:And then, so He's.
Speaker B:They're just like, he's trash and spare parts.
Speaker B:And I'm just like, why is this cartoon character nurse here?
Speaker B:Why do they have a blow up doll as a nurse?
Speaker B:Like, I don't.
Speaker B:Like, the only female in the entire Stein world is a blow up doll.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:The woman who played that.
Speaker B:You were fine, but the way you were dressed in this was not great.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's like I went to spirit Halloween about a nurse costume.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's Jessica Rabbit in a nurse costume.
Speaker B:So this is so shockingly.
Speaker B:Cyrus doesn't want to cut up a human being.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:He's like, nope, I don't really want to do this.
Speaker A:And Monroe's like, this is your legacy.
Speaker A:You're soft.
Speaker A:And it ends now.
Speaker A:And do this or I will.
Speaker A:And basically, like, grabs Cyrus's hand, puts the scalpel in it and, like, forces him to cut into this kid's chest.
Speaker B:Well, he threatens like, he's going to kill him too.
Speaker B:I think it's like, yeah, so that was there.
Speaker B:And they do not sedate their patient, which, besides being obviously cruel, seems terrible to work.
Speaker B:Work on.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, it just seems.
Speaker A:And it seems inefficient.
Speaker B:I mean, I would be like, no, don't cut this in the audio, but I'm shaking my chest in a very aggressive manner.
Speaker A:Even if you're tied down, you're, like gonna wiggle and stuff.
Speaker B:I mean, like, it just seems like it would.
Speaker B:And I think your body would just go into shock and you would probably pass out, so.
Speaker A:Probably wouldn't last long.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Still seems like.
Speaker A:I mean, I know they were trying to efficient.
Speaker A:You've already terrified this person, suffocating them.
Speaker A:I mean, do you really need to scare.
Speaker A:I mean, like, is there any point.
Speaker B:At this point it just.
Speaker B:Yeah, it just seems like bad medical practice.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Not sedated.
Speaker B:Gets cut into his chest by Cyrus.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we cut to Dean, who has on the phone getting Rudy to someone named Rudy.
Speaker A:Someone named Rudy.
Speaker A:It's implied that it's another hunter of some kind.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:To run the license plates that he saw on the Stein vehicle.
Speaker A:And because he is at the Black.
Speaker B:He's at the Blackbird Motel.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:The plates are registered to Eldenstein in Shreveport with no actual address, which is weird.
Speaker B:So you can tell I've been watching Big Bang Theories because I said it's registered to a Sheldon stuff in my memories.
Speaker A:So we cut to Rowena and Castiel, who are still in this like.
Speaker A:Like whatever the warehouse church thing is that Sam Put them in the hideout.
Speaker A:The hideout.
Speaker A:They're still there.
Speaker A:And she's talking.
Speaker A:Oh, you're fascinating.
Speaker A:An angel rejecting heaven.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And she says, it's like a fish who wants to fly or a dog who wants to be people.
Speaker B:And I'm like, come on, we all know dogs who want to be people and dogs who want to be cats and dogs that want to be other things.
Speaker B:Like dogs want to be things.
Speaker B:Just like people.
Speaker B:So anyways, Cass thinks he's a lot like a people.
Speaker B:And she does like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Sam comes in and we are reminded that these two don't know what's happened to Charlie.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Because Castiel asks, where's Charlie?
Speaker A:And Sam just shakes his head.
Speaker A:And so Cass is now upset.
Speaker A:He should have gone after her.
Speaker A:Blah, blah.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, the Steins did it.
Speaker A:And Dean knows and he's going after them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And of course Sam is blaming himself.
Speaker B:And Rowena has some sort of magical eyeshadow.
Speaker B:Eyeshadow primer.
Speaker B:And the green is still on and her hair is still moisturized and it's not at all frizzy because she's a witch.
Speaker B:And then Cass is just like, I would be happy to kill Rowena because she just called me a fish.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, well, wait a minute.
Speaker A:We need to attract Dean first.
Speaker A:And then while I'm pulling my phone up to track Dean, I see I have an email from Charlie.
Speaker A:It's the upload she was sending from the Twitter toilet.
Speaker A:Not like using the toilet, but like when she was.
Speaker B:While she was in the bathroom, she sent this.
Speaker B:And luckily she didn't have any problems with the size of the file to being too big.
Speaker B:And like, it didn't get kicked back.
Speaker B:And he was able to download the entire thing.
Speaker A:It's crazy.
Speaker A:Didn't make it go to some stupid drive link that you weren't added to.
Speaker A:And you got to change accounts.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anyways, we've all been.
Speaker B:Oh, the 90s, I guess is the 90s.
Speaker B:It was not, but it feels like it.
Speaker A:Anyhow, so he shows Rowena because they've.
Speaker B:Cracked the code and she can now read every last word of the Book of the Damned.
Speaker A:So Sam verifies that means that can you cure the Mark of Cain?
Speaker A:And she's like, she should be able to do that if she can read the book.
Speaker A:So Sam tells cast to watch.
Speaker A:You need to go watch Dean and make sure that he doesn't go too far in his.
Speaker A:His cuckoo mark vengeance plan.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:But Sam is going to see this Through.
Speaker A:Because despite everything that's happened, he thinks this is the best plan.
Speaker A:Because now they have the cipher.
Speaker A:And it's fine.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:But he has to do this.
Speaker A:Because when Sam was out there and lost, Dean did whatever he could to save Sam.
Speaker A:And Dean is his everything.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:He has to do it.
Speaker A:Otherwise, he's gonna be black Eyed.
Speaker A:Black Eyed Demon.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This road ends in Black Eyes and blood.
Speaker B:Title of my next album.
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker B:So Rowena, though, is refusing to read this book until Sam carries out his end of the bargain.
Speaker B:Kill Crowley.
Speaker A:Yeah, she can read it.
Speaker A:She didn't say she would read it.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker A:Shifty anyways.
Speaker A:So she's like, no, you gotta do this now.
Speaker A:And you need me.
Speaker A:You're need my spells anyway, so come on.
Speaker A:And she's like.
Speaker A:And he's trying to delight delay.
Speaker A:Sam's like, wait a minute.
Speaker A:You're supposed to do this first.
Speaker A:She's like, whatever.
Speaker A:Dean's a time bomb.
Speaker A:Go kill my son time bomb.
Speaker B:And then to go from that back to.
Speaker B:The stuff shines.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we see a lab full of body parts specimens in red liquid.
Speaker A:And I'm just gonna say this liquid looks really like blood.
Speaker A:And I don't think that's what usually the liquid that you put.
Speaker A:Organs.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:This isn't where in my nose.
Speaker B:At some point in this, like, I started talking about how cool this lab is, but I'll just, like.
Speaker B:Like, at this point, I was just, like, out.
Speaker B:Like, I finally noticed how cool it was.
Speaker B:Like, I just had it by paying attention.
Speaker B:I'm like, look at all those wet specimens.
Speaker B:Like, those are really cool.
Speaker B:And then the things that are just, like, in the walls that are highlighted, like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like this lab.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, Eldon has a new arm with a bad tattoo on it.
Speaker A:So he has taken the.
Speaker A:The bully kid's arm.
Speaker A:The kid's dead.
Speaker A:Cyrus is very, very sad and covered in blood.
Speaker A:And Monroe congratulates him.
Speaker A:And this as he stares at the dead kid.
Speaker A:But he won't make him eat the heart.
Speaker A:That was just an old country tradition.
Speaker B:That's nice of them, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Maybe he was hungry, though.
Speaker A:Maybe he wanted to.
Speaker A:I'm kidding.
Speaker A:So Eldon is taking a very sad Cyrus out of the room with him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then they zoom in on his arm, which looks like it was stitched up by a toddler with yarn.
Speaker B:Frankenstein.
Speaker B:But I'm like, have y' all not learned how to, like, stitch yet?
Speaker B:Like, you've been doing this for centuries.
Speaker B:Like, can you not do it like a Good, like, crop.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:I don't know what surgery stitches are.
Speaker A:But anything better than that?
Speaker B:Anything better than that?
Speaker B:So we go from that, and we cut to Baby rolling into Shreveport, which is really the corner of Matthews Avenue and Ulster in Vancouver, but they make it kind of look like.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:And Dean gets pulled over immediately.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He gets lit up as soon as.
Speaker B:Like, he, like, crosses like this.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:He's been watching for him.
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker A:And he gives the name Ashley J.
Speaker A:Williams, which is a reference to Evil Dead.
Speaker A:That's Ash.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And apparently I read something on Supernatural Wiki that they wanted him and I think we might have talked about before, but just a reminder that they wanted Bruce Campbell at one point to potentially be in the Winchester family.
Speaker B:It would have been fun.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anyways, Sheriff.
Speaker A:Anyway, so they get him out of the car.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he's like, why are you pulling me over?
Speaker A:Like, your tail lights are out.
Speaker A:And they're like, what?
Speaker A:And then it's the.
Speaker A:The old stereotype where the.
Speaker A:Where the cop, the other cop starts smashing tail lights on baby.
Speaker A:Which is just mean and sad.
Speaker A:And Newton's very upset about it.
Speaker B:Yes, because he's violating baby.
Speaker B:Then he gets charged with assaulting a police officer because he gets upset about that.
Speaker B:Number one, don't talk to cops.
Speaker B:It's not going to help you.
Speaker B:Number two, why is it worse when the accent is like, a cop is like.
Speaker B:Like Louisiana Deep South?
Speaker B:I would say it's because of the cop who wanted to arrest me in Baton Rouge, and I was trying to flee that bar, but I think it's really because of the Dukes of Hazzard.
Speaker B:Like, I really think it's maybe like that, Sheriff.
Speaker B:And Roscoe.
Speaker B:Yeah, Like, I think that maybe is just, like, you dug into my brain, so that's funny.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They violate Baby and his civil rights.
Speaker A:Anyways, so.
Speaker A:So we cut to Crowley at a.
Speaker B:Sheriffs did not have body cams.
Speaker A:No, they did not.
Speaker A:So we cut to a diner where Crowley is enjoying a really great cup of coffee, apparently courtesy of Seth.
Speaker B:Yay.
Speaker A:We'll talk about who this is when we get to cast, but, oh, my God, this diner.
Speaker B:I want.
Speaker B:Why don't I have this diner?
Speaker B:And, like, one is beautiful.
Speaker B:It's just got, like, atomic stars, like, everywhere and so good.
Speaker B:And the food looks really great.
Speaker B:And apparently Seth had learned to make this coffee in Ecuador.
Speaker A:Yeah, apparently Seth, our.
Speaker A:Our waiter is learned.
Speaker A:He's been all over the world.
Speaker A:Because if you can fry up a decent burger, you can work almost anywhere.
Speaker B:Which is two kids get a skill, travel the world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But his dream is to go to Asia next.
Speaker A:And Crowley's like, oh, that's your dream.
Speaker A:Let's.
Speaker A:That's interesting.
Speaker A:Guess what?
Speaker A:Let's have.
Speaker A:Let's talk.
Speaker A:Because he's gonna make a deal and get this kid there because he likes this guy's coffee.
Speaker B:Well, he says, I'm in the business of making dreams come true.
Speaker B:And Seth is like, that's creepy.
Speaker B:Because it is like, you should like men who are like a significant years older than you telling you that they want to make your dreams come true.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Crowley, I don't think he thinks you're a demon.
Speaker B:I think he thinks you're trying to pick him up.
Speaker B:Anyhow, so the phone rings, and his.
Speaker B:From Not.
Speaker B:Not Moose.
Speaker A:Not Moose.
Speaker A:And we hear Dean's voice asking him for help.
Speaker A:The call ends.
Speaker A:And then immediately from the same not moose number, which is Dean's number, comes a text with an address in Kansas.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Which is weird because we all know that Dean's in Shreveport.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker B:So let's go.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:So we go from that to the sheriff's station where the cop is going through Dean scenes.
Speaker A:IDs, Ozzy Osborne, let me kill Meister, Freddie Mercury.
Speaker B:We're not explaining who those are.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:And if they're all in the cigar box and he's like 17 fake IDs, and a trunk full of guns and knives and ninja stars, who are you?
Speaker B:Which means that trunk has been violated.
Speaker A:Trunk's been violated too.
Speaker B:And he also.
Speaker B:He slips and says, like, they said you were a pro.
Speaker B:Which indicates that, you know, we already knew, but that, you know, that somebody had set the.
Speaker B:These corrupt sheriffs onto Dean.
Speaker A:But it's funny, this.
Speaker A:I really enjoyed this scene, which is like, not.
Speaker A:Not because, I don't know, it's.
Speaker A:It's layers.
Speaker A:I just think it's a cool scene where Dean's like, you got.
Speaker A:I'm gonna get out of here in about 30 seconds.
Speaker A:That's who I am.
Speaker A:And it gets laughed at by this deputy.
Speaker A:And he's like.
Speaker A:So Dean knocks his handcuffed, Knocks the.
Speaker A:The jar of pencil.
Speaker A:Of pencil on the floor.
Speaker B:So he takes a cat strategy and he says this mug and he knocks it off the table.
Speaker B:Table.
Speaker A:And then when the deputy gets on the ground to pick them up like.
Speaker B:An idiot, like, he clearly just said, I'm getting out of here in 30 seconds.
Speaker B:Watch me knock this mug off of here.
Speaker A:He falls for the bait.
Speaker A:And Dean is able to put him in a shoulder lock.
Speaker A:And get the.
Speaker A:And make him give him the keys.
Speaker A:Pretty good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then he stomps his throat with his boot.
Speaker B:And I do not like that at all.
Speaker A:And then he goes to see the sheriff and he.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:Who's talking to the.
Speaker A:On the phone about.
Speaker A:About Dean, clearly.
Speaker A:So Dean has the.
Speaker A:A pistol and points it at the sheriff and wants to know who he's talking to.
Speaker A:And so Dean just hits him in the face until he's willing to tell him that it was the Stein family who runs this town with the gun.
Speaker B:He pistol whips him.
Speaker B:He doesn't just say he's pistol whipping him with the gun, but he does do it once for a baby.
Speaker B:So I mean, maybe.
Speaker B:But who he was talking to who also shockingly, was Daddy Monroe.
Speaker B:And Monroe is Eldon's daddy.
Speaker B:Ew.
Speaker B:It's even worse when southern share like he is kind of use the word boy and daddy now and like ew, Ew.
Speaker B:Ew.
Speaker A:But he says that that signs.
Speaker A:The signs own this town.
Speaker A:They are quote practically gods and demons.
Speaker A:I kill Gods.
Speaker A:Which is actually not.
Speaker A:Not factually inaccurate.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's literally true.
Speaker B:So then we go from that scene to the meetup point for Crowley.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And not Moose's a call person.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:Not Moose.
Speaker B:Moose.
Speaker A:Not Moose.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not.
Speaker A:Not Moose.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Anyway, so Crowley's there and calling out for Dean.
Speaker A:And so Sam shoots him with a bullet that has a Devil's Trap on it.
Speaker A:And tell shows him that how he was tricked.
Speaker B:I'm the original deep faker.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then Crowley asked, does Dean even know about this?
Speaker A:Because they're friends.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, no, we're not friends.
Speaker A:Everything's your fault.
Speaker A:Including the Mark of Kane.
Speaker A:This is all your fault.
Speaker A:It's all your fault, Crowley.
Speaker B:All Crowley's fault.
Speaker A:And Carly's like, look, I'm not scared of the knife that you're holding right now.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, no, you don't have to be scared of that.
Speaker A:But here's this hex bag from your mama.
Speaker B:And he puts it in his pocket.
Speaker B:And she says.
Speaker B:She said to tell you she should have taken the three pigs.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he starts collapsing on the ground in pain.
Speaker B:All Sam watches.
Speaker B:And we cut from there back to.
Speaker A:Our plantation where Dean is killing all the Stein's guards.
Speaker B:And he has a silencer on which.
Speaker B:On that gun looks horrible.
Speaker B:Like it just.
Speaker B:It's just not a good look for that pistol.
Speaker B:Use something else for that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But he makes his way into the house and the second he steps into the foyer, he's got the foyer, right?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:His.
Speaker A:Got the lights turn on, and there's a whole bunch of dudes with.
Speaker A:With guns on the stairwell pointed at him.
Speaker B:I think it depends on, like, how expensive it is, whether or not it's a foyer or a foyer.
Speaker B:Well, like, I think I have a foyer.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:But with this magnificent staircase, because it.
Speaker A:Is an epic staircase.
Speaker B:That is a foyer, probably.
Speaker A:Well, Monroe casually descends the stairs behind all of these armed gunmen.
Speaker A:And ding.
Speaker B:Gets backed.
Speaker A:Dean gets backed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This is when I made it a verb.
Speaker B:So once it happens.
Speaker B:Twice I'm like, now it's a verb.
Speaker A:Now it's a thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we go back to our meetup.
Speaker A:And Crowley is officially on the floor now, saying that he thought that Sam was the smart one.
Speaker A:And he's insane for even considering working with Rowena.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, oh, don't worry.
Speaker A:I don't trust her.
Speaker B:Just die already.
Speaker A:But, yeah, and then Crowley's gonna start, you know, talking about how that's what I get for trying to be the good guy.
Speaker A:I've been trying to make changes in hell for the last year.
Speaker A:And I thought if I'd be better, maybe I'd feel something again.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, what the ever?
Speaker A:You've done so much bad killing, innocence, killing people I love.
Speaker A:And your accent, your suit and your snark.
Speaker A:You're still a monster.
Speaker A:Gonna watch him die like all the rest of them.
Speaker B:And then Crowley agrees.
Speaker B:He's done horrible, evil, messy things.
Speaker B:And then for the first time in Supernatural, we see that Crowley's eyes glow red.
Speaker B:And then he says, I have loved every damn minute.
Speaker B:Fuck yeah.
Speaker B:Hail Crowley.
Speaker B:And he pulls out his bullet.
Speaker B:And then he thanks Sam for reminding him who the fuck he is.
Speaker B:And he flings him across the room.
Speaker B:Room.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:At least someone in this.
Speaker B:Someone in this episode has balls.
Speaker B:I think is like.
Speaker B:Well, I'm just like, okay, thank you.
Speaker A:It's someone that's not a sad sack or.
Speaker B:Yeah, you're not a sad sack.
Speaker B:Not a psychopath.
Speaker B:He's just being like, I know who I am.
Speaker B:Get off me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they.
Speaker A:We have.
Speaker A:Sam tries to fight back, but it doesn't really work.
Speaker A:And is informed that he's only alive because Crowley allows it.
Speaker A:And that he should tell the ginger, AKA Roman, it, that he gave her a chance to walk away and she spat in his face.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Title of my next sex tape.
Speaker B:I'm not a redhead anymore.
Speaker B:But you never Know, I could put on a wig, but.
Speaker B:So she spat in his face.
Speaker B:And she's never going to see him coming.
Speaker B:So Crowley is coming after Rowita.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He big mad, so.
Speaker B:Which is weird.
Speaker B:Like, you know, like, I hate the family fighting between the Winchesters, but I love the family fighting between Crowley and Rowena.
Speaker A:That's way more up.
Speaker A:Like brothers.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Brothers fight.
Speaker A:They've got this weird dynamic and all this.
Speaker A:Like, they grew up different and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker A:Like a mother and son.
Speaker A:That's up.
Speaker B:The mom who tried to sell him for three pigs, you know?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:And then she's trying to murder him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's just so much more delightful.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:So we go back.
Speaker A:Delightful is the word.
Speaker B:So we go from that back to the plantation.
Speaker B:And this.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:This is what.
Speaker B:This is where you finally get that little library.
Speaker B:Because he's.
Speaker B:He's, like, strapped to this table, gurney, whatever we're gonna call it.
Speaker A:And this is waiting table.
Speaker B:Get it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Monroe is standing over him, mocking him for thinking that this plan would work.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, it usually does.
Speaker A:And what do you do?
Speaker A:Play Operation.
Speaker A:Monroe's favorite game.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's just words that he's, like, stuck to a table, having to listen to a model vlog.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But he's like, you shouldn't do this.
Speaker A:Do you see this mark?
Speaker A:That means I can't die.
Speaker A:I'm not bargaining with you.
Speaker A:You just literally can't kill me.
Speaker A:And if you try, I will have black eyes, and then y' all will die.
Speaker A:So this is, like, not a good plan.
Speaker B:But the science think this is great.
Speaker B:Like, Monroe was like, you can't die.
Speaker B:You're, like, perfect lab rat.
Speaker B:Let's cut you open.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, maybe.
Speaker A:But maybe you, like, unstrap me now.
Speaker A:Then maybe not everybody will die.
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker A:So they get.
Speaker A:They gag him.
Speaker A:They're not into that.
Speaker A:So they get the scalpel, and they don't take his shirt off.
Speaker A:They're just gonna, like, scalpel through his T shirt.
Speaker A:It's a weird choice.
Speaker B:Again, weird.
Speaker B:Y' all.
Speaker B:Y' all.
Speaker B:Surgery.
Speaker B:Like, I don't understand.
Speaker A:They were pros.
Speaker A:They've been doing this for centuries.
Speaker B:You still have.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Very odd.
Speaker A:Like, at least, like, scissors and, like, cut the shirt open.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, EMTs do that.
Speaker B:You're filming your scalpel.
Speaker B:You shouldn't use the same scalpel on fabric that you use on flesh.
Speaker B:Duh.
Speaker A:Obviously.
Speaker A:But Dean easily breaks free from his hand constraints and Headbutts Monroe slices Eli's throat and stabs a syringe into the nurse.
Speaker B:Yeah, because the nurse, like, went after Dean with a syringe for some reason.
Speaker B:Yeah, not that of kind.
Speaker B:Fired on her.
Speaker A:And so Dean gets Monroe a headlock and tells him, you took something from me.
Speaker A:Now I'm going to take everything from you.
Speaker B:And then Monroe is like, I will monologue until I die.
Speaker B:And Dean breaks his neck.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And he leaves the lab because everybody in there is dead.
Speaker A:And in the meantime.
Speaker B:Well, they do a really.
Speaker B:I like this.
Speaker B:The scene.
Speaker B:Yeah, the cut.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:He, Dean, kicks a door open of the lab and that out of the lab.
Speaker B:And that goes into smoke.
Speaker B:And then you cut to another haze of smoke, and you see Eldon's gun walking into what we realize is the bunker.
Speaker B:And then we realize that they have entered the fortress by blowing open the door.
Speaker B:And I'm like, minute letters.
Speaker B:What the.
Speaker B:What kind of warding is this?
Speaker B:Like, it's supposed to be the super secret place.
Speaker B:I know they were inside it, but you would think that you couldn't just blow the door of the bunker.
Speaker B:Bunker open.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:It's not a very good bunker if you can do that.
Speaker A:So Eldon, Cyrus, and another Stein.
Speaker A:Roscoe.
Speaker B:Yeah, until I know him.
Speaker B:I call him Gorilla Stein.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I think mine's big dude.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker A:They have broken into the bunker and they're calling out to make sure no one's there.
Speaker A:And Eldon instructs them to take whatever looks interesting and burn the rest.
Speaker B:No, no, not the knowledge.
Speaker A:Don't do that.
Speaker A:So Sam is leaving the warehouse where Crowley left him and calls Rowena and says, it didn't work.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, and she, you know, it doesn't.
Speaker A:So he's asking her how to kill him, and she's like, what?
Speaker A:No, you've got to go.
Speaker A:You've got to do this.
Speaker A:You've got to go.
Speaker A:Get it done.
Speaker A:Just get it done.
Speaker A:Figure it out.
Speaker A:Get it done.
Speaker A:Done.
Speaker B:Figure it out.
Speaker B:Sam.
Speaker B:I am Rowena.
Speaker B:You are Sam.
Speaker B:You figure out how to kill my son because I am a witch.
Speaker B:So let's talk about another witch.
Speaker B:See how I did that?
Speaker B:So we're gonna have a little bit of lore here.
Speaker B:This is the last time time we saw Rowena in this episode.
Speaker B:So we're gonna talk about the Witch of Kings Cross.
Speaker B:This is continuing and lore.
Speaker B: Witch of Kings cross, it was: Speaker B:And two men, Francis Frank Horner and Raymond Ray Ager had snuck into a party at her house and stolen a roll of film that was hidden to try and make a quick buckle.
Speaker B:I imagine that is what they say in Australia.
Speaker B:So Frank and Ray tried to sell the undeveloped film filthy pictures.
Speaker B:I haven't spelled out filthy with F E E L, T H Y.
Speaker B:So just imagine Australian saying that.
Speaker B:And so they tried to sell these filthy pictures to the sauna tabloid for 200 quid.
Speaker B:200 pounds.
Speaker B:However, when the editor had the pictures developed, he declared them them too hot to be published.
Speaker B:Instead he sent them to the the New South Wales Police and the they were also hoping to be profiting off the scandal that would elicit from the pictures.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It wasn't just like I'm sending them because these are, you know, immoral.
Speaker B:It was I want the scandal that comes from this.
Speaker B:So Vice had no trouble recognizing Rosalind Norton and her boyfriend Gavin Greenlees in the Lauren photograph photo photographs.
Speaker B:But first, before they even did anything with that, they went and arrested Frank and Ray for trying to sell the pictures.
Speaker B:So the guys that were trying to make the money off the pictures got sent to six months in jail for trying to sell them.
Speaker B:So don't sneak into people's houses and sell their personal pictures and try and make money off of them because you end up in jail.
Speaker B:So anyhow, so the vice squad, after doing that, Detective Trevenaar and Detective Hayes then raided Rosaleen's flat to arrest harassed her and Gavin.
Speaker B:But Rowie was off visiting her sister in Kerry Billy because no place in Australia could have a normal sounding name that doesn't sound silly.
Speaker B:So she went to Carrie Billy and so they only were able to get Gavin.
Speaker B:According to Detective Travinar, Gavin has severely overgrown fingernails and toenails that had a pound of dirt under them and that.
Speaker B:So that's really gross.
Speaker B:And he asked if he could shave his beard before they took him to the station and he said he went to a hand basin and just put cold water on his face and then just basically dry shaved with a disposable razor cutting into his face as like blood just came and just like, was like yeah, I know.
Speaker B:So that was disturbing.
Speaker B:So Broly wasn't there because she was at her sister.
Speaker B:So she was arrested two days later and it was all over the papers.
Speaker B:They were charged with what most newspapers said were morality charges or of doing an unnatural act, but in reality they were actually charged with making an obscene publication and the abominable crime of buggery, which was very unusual for a woman.
Speaker B:To be accused of that is something that's very.
Speaker B:Or charged with.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B: the New South Wales Crime Act: Speaker B:That was our main penal code in New South Wales that you.
Speaker B:Each state in Australia had their own right.
Speaker B:And so that that act said anyone who commits the abominable crime of buggery or bestiality with mankind or with any animal shall be liable to imprisonment for 14 years.
Speaker B: In: Speaker B: In: Speaker B:So New South Wales passed the Crime Sexual Assault act amendment.
Speaker B:And that was in order to try and like help women out.
Speaker B:But what that did was it changed the maximum penalty penalty for sexual assault regardless of gender to seven years.
Speaker B:So now with that other law still on the book, that meant if you had non consensual anal sex, you got seven years.
Speaker B:So if you force someone to have anal sex, you got seven years and if you had consensual anal sex, you got 14 years.
Speaker B:So yeah, laws are great.
Speaker B: at law was on the books until: Speaker B:FYI, Texas still maintains an unenforceable sodomy law, such as in Section 21.06 from the Penal code, the repeal of which just passed the Texas House and is on its way of the Texas Senate.
Speaker B:So just interesting fact about.
Speaker A:Well, and that's because the way.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's because the way our garments written, you have to like it's in there even though it's not really a law anymore.
Speaker B:Well, it's the same thing.
Speaker B:It's decriminalized, but they still haven't removed it from the books because they have.
Speaker A:To pass a law to literally the way our constitution's written.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:And it has not passed every time it's come up.
Speaker B:So they're trying again and it's past the House and we'll see if it goes through the Senate.
Speaker B:So but like the reason I was saying that that was like Australia, like it's a.
Speaker B:That's a state law that is superseded by the national law.
Speaker B:And that is what happened in New South Wales.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:When it was decriminalized because there was a national law that superseded a state law.
Speaker B:So Australia and us, some things are similarly bad.
Speaker B:I guess so.
Speaker B: -: Speaker B:And they were allowed 100 pound bail despite the prosecutor saying suggested that they be refused.
Speaker B:Rosaline.
Speaker B:See, Rosaline requested a remand until November due to a legal reason and she had a summons matter and I think that was for the Cashmere obscenity case because they were arrested right after Anna Hoffman's thing, like a couple of days after Anna Hoffman of went to court for her saying like you all have the black masses stuff and the, because this trial then for these new obscenity and bugger recharges.
Speaker B:They were there, those court cases were going at the same time, right.
Speaker B:So she had the, the Cashmere Cafe with the, the paintings was also having the trial at this time.
Speaker B:So she's just in and out of court.
Speaker B:So they, they, they were said like no, you can't have that because it's just a summons banner.
Speaker B:So they were Amanda until October 20th.
Speaker B:But when that day came, Gavin was not in court because he had been committed to an institution by the lunacy court.
Speaker B:Well, that's a great court.
Speaker A:The lunacy court.
Speaker B:The lunacy court.
Speaker B:So he was admitted to Callan Park Hospital, which eventually became canceled Callan Park Mental Asylum and then something else and then now it's, it's just a haunted, abandoned place.
Speaker B:So he was there after being.
Speaker B:And he was diagnosed as schizophrenic who had voices endlessly tormenting and ridiculing him.
Speaker B:According to the hospital superintendent, Gavin was also obsessed with sex and wanted to escape from the real world.
Speaker B:He would hide in the corner of the room with books on the occult and would only be aroused to action by constant prodding.
Speaker B:And I'm saying, hey, that's not a sign that you're insane.
Speaker B:If you just want to sit in the corner and read your books on occult and don't want to do other stuff, sometimes people just want to sit in the corner and read their books up.
Speaker B:Magic.
Speaker B:All right, so maybe the hearing the voices ridiculing you, that's another thing.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:So not only was Gavin absent from court, but so was Rosaleen, who According to Dr.
Speaker B:S.J.
Speaker B:minow, I think Kylie Minow's father, probably not.
Speaker B:So he said that she was suffering from the effects of drugs, chiefly Dexedrine and methadone, and was incapable of sustaining sustained concentration.
Speaker B:So the court date was pushed back.
Speaker B:And this is also something to comment on Gavin's mental health.
Speaker B:Like they did a lot of drugs and so he already had mental health problems.
Speaker B:And then probably doing a ton of amphetamine and opioids.
Speaker B:Probably.
Speaker B:And hallucinogens probably weren't doing great for the voices in his head, so.
Speaker A:So were the voices hallucinating, too?
Speaker B:Where are the voices losing the other voices?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Probably.
Speaker B:That's when you.
Speaker B:You ask your.
Speaker B:You sit up, you have your friend tell you.
Speaker B:Tell your friend tell you that do not let you go downstairs and tell your parents to take you to the hospital because the acid triple ends soon.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B: goes to court in November of: Speaker B:Rosaline dressed in what was described as flamboyant attire.
Speaker B:She wore a red skirt, a black top, and leopard print shoes.
Speaker A:Sounds so flamboyant and like something I.
Speaker B:Probably worn many times.
Speaker B:So they go in and you.
Speaker B:They start asking her about the photos.
Speaker B: he says that they were from a: Speaker B: ld them they've been taken in: Speaker B:But she refused to name the camera person.
Speaker B:During court, Rosaleen said the photos had been taken during a ceremony of worship of the Greek mythological figure of Pan, and not during a witchcraft ritual school.
Speaker B:The detective confirmed that Greenlees was dressed in ceremonial garb in several of the photographs.
Speaker B:The detective would later tell the Australian crime writer Ned McCann more graphic details about the pictures.
Speaker B:And y' all skip 30 seconds ahead if you don't want to hear these graphic pictures, because they're gonna get graphic for a second.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:And one, he said Gavin was putting a soft drink bottle inside of Rowy.
Speaker B:Inside of Not.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And another, she was lying nude on a bench with Gavin standing over her with a coin in his hand.
Speaker B:Hand.
Speaker B:And he was trying to put that in the slot that.
Speaker B:That euphemism.
Speaker B:He was flagellating her with an electric cord, making out that he was kicking her and that you could see the marks on her body.
Speaker B:And remember, Roe has said before and other training, you know, that she was into BDSN before this, but she still claims this was part of the magic act.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:And other photos.
Speaker B: e any of these pictures until: Speaker B:The ABC show Rewind aired some.
Speaker B:And they did show her bound by wrists and ankles to a pedestal while Gavin was flagellating her.
Speaker B:Other photos showed Gavin performing oral and anal sex on her.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But even though these photos were there, they were acquitted of these charges.
Speaker B:When the detective said he had spoken to the jury and they told Me not to do that.
Speaker B:He was such a dick.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But that the jury had said that they just didn't think they could convict a woman of that.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So they were acquitted.
Speaker B:Gavin had was acquitted under the condition that his parents take him back to the mental hospital.
Speaker B:And I can hear you, dear listener, saying, liz, is this the sex magic you were promising?
Speaker B:Because this doesn't sound very sex magicy.
Speaker B:And I'm like, no, because I left out another part of what was happening during that year.
Speaker B:Because you see, back when Frank and Ray went to the Sun News, the story caught the ear of their senior crime reporter, Joe Morris.
Speaker B:So he went to Roe's flat two days after the these pictures were brought to the detectives place.
Speaker B:And he went over there to say hello.
Speaker B:And then while he was off making tea, he was like.
Speaker B:Like, let's see what else is in this magic couch.
Speaker B:And he reached in there and he pulled out a stack of letters between Rosal Rosaline and a person who we will reveal next week in our finale of the Witch of Kings Cross 6 magic.
Speaker A:Cliffhanger.
Speaker B:Cliffhanger.
Speaker B:So next week we will have lore and the finale trivia.
Speaker B:It's gonna be showstopper extravaganza.
Speaker B:Which is why we apologize of this.
Speaker B:This episode coming out a day late.
Speaker B:You're gonna get a lot more next week.
Speaker B:But, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:It was a holiday weekend off.
Speaker B:Come back.
Speaker B:Don't off.
Speaker B:Stay here.
Speaker B:All right, so let's go back to.
Speaker B:So now we have left Rowena for this episode.
Speaker B:And we are back to Cass.
Speaker A:And he is at the Stein lab looking at the aftermath of Dean killing a bunch of folks.
Speaker A:And on the phone with Sam saying that he.
Speaker A:There's bodies down here, more than a dozen upstairs.
Speaker A:And he has killed everyone one brutally.
Speaker A:But apparently he's headed home now.
Speaker B:He's coming home.
Speaker A:Is solved, I guess.
Speaker A:So at the bunker, Cyrus is looking at the books because he wants to read about them, especially the one about the exorcism.
Speaker A:He's excited.
Speaker B:Yeah, there are books everywhere on the floor.
Speaker A:They're just running.
Speaker B:Just like, don't cheat books like that.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The Practitioner's Guide to Exorcism.
Speaker B:And then Gorilla Stein comes in and he was like, this ain't a damn library.
Speaker A:Like, kind of technically it is, but.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And he's like, bring it or burn.
Speaker A:Box it or burn it because it.
Speaker B:Is your first rodeo.
Speaker B:And he was like, while I go check out their sex dungeon, which I'm assuming is the file room.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Cyrus calls him a douche.
Speaker A:And he finds a photo of Sam, Dame, and Bobby and gets like.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Like, it sparks something.
Speaker B:It makes something.
Speaker A:Something emotional about it.
Speaker A:Eldon enters, and he's got a box.
Speaker A:And he says he just reads Dean Winchester.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:He's like, you know, it looks like records with crappy taste in music and includes him talking about Motorhead, which is not cool.
Speaker A:But then he's like, oh, he's got a hot mom, because he sees a photo of Mary.
Speaker A:And then he loves flame panel, and then he puts it in the burn pile.
Speaker A:Cyrus is kind of trying to stop him.
Speaker A:He's like, we don't have to do this.
Speaker A:And he's like, Elton's like, we don't have to.
Speaker A:We get to.
Speaker B:And then he pours gasoline all over the books.
Speaker B:And even though I know they're not gonna light them a fire, as he pulls a match out, he's so brooding.
Speaker B:The books, because you can't take.
Speaker A:It's very sad.
Speaker A:Very sad.
Speaker A:Nope, don't.
Speaker A:Don't burn the book books, but cover them in influence.
Speaker A:Plato.
Speaker A:Roscoe, our giant Stein, stumbles back into the room, and he has a knife in his back.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:What is happening here?
Speaker A:Oh, guess what.
Speaker A:Dean's there, and he's covered in blood because he.
Speaker B:Nobody can change their shirts in this episode.
Speaker B:He just rolled from the wheezy Indiana.
Speaker A:To Kansas covered in blood.
Speaker B:Covered in blood and dry.
Speaker A:And it seems very sus.
Speaker A:Like, what if you got pulled over?
Speaker A:Could you not.
Speaker B:What if you had to stop and pee gas?
Speaker B:Like, I don't want to be the person at the gas station just being like, what the.
Speaker A:How do you not buy road snacks?
Speaker A:I don't know how this works.
Speaker B:Well, I think the mark doesn't make him, like, snacky.
Speaker B:I think, like, it's killing his snack vibe.
Speaker B:Because if he wouldn't be murdery if he had had snacks, like, nobody.
Speaker B:I mean, some people.
Speaker B:But I'm like, I'm not gonna eat a ho ho and then go out and kill somebody.
Speaker B:Just don't do that.
Speaker B:So then Eldon, like, taunts him about Charlie, which just is not smart.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:And he's still gonna monologue.
Speaker A:And Dean just stares at him, and then finally is like, by the way, everyone's dead.
Speaker A:She can just spare me the speech, okay?
Speaker B:And I don't give a about your seven nipples for the ladies or the thug Jealous.
Speaker B:I don't judge.
Speaker A:You still have one brain.
Speaker A:And Elton's like, so.
Speaker A:And Dean shoots him in the head.
Speaker A:It's actually really good.
Speaker A:It's actually really good.
Speaker B:Like sometimes this is why you shouldn't monologue bad guys.
Speaker B:Because it gives people time to.
Speaker B:Between the eyes.
Speaker A:No, I was like, so Eldon's dead and Cyrus.
Speaker A:Dean points the gun at Cyrus and Cyrus is asking Dean not to.
Speaker A:To shoot him.
Speaker A:He says, I hate my family.
Speaker A:I don't have any stitches.
Speaker A:I'm not like them.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, nope.
Speaker A:Bad's in your blood.
Speaker A:It always will be and it always win.
Speaker A:And Cyrus begging for his life.
Speaker A:And it's really sad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you can hear someone's heart beating and you can't tell if it's Cyrus's or Dean's.
Speaker B:And I really.
Speaker B:I like that.
Speaker B:That little tension it added.
Speaker B:And then he shoots this poor kid between the eyes.
Speaker A:What the.
Speaker B:Dean.
Speaker A:It's very upsetting.
Speaker A:Very upset.
Speaker B:And he's also very upset.
Speaker B:He's like, what have you done?
Speaker B:What you done, boyfriend?
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And as.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And Sam is driving into.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, I took down a monster.
Speaker A:That's what I do.
Speaker A:And I'm just going to continue until I can't basically be stops.
Speaker A:And Cass is like, until you become the monster.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:And he tells Cass to leave and says like, I'm not.
Speaker A:I'm your friend.
Speaker A:I'm not going to leave.
Speaker A:And he's like, really?
Speaker A:Do you screw over all of your friends?
Speaker A:Because that's what you did to me by trying to cure me.
Speaker A:That's what you did.
Speaker A:You screwed everybody over.
Speaker A:And Cass, like, look, we can read the book now so we can take the mark off.
Speaker A:So it's okay.
Speaker A:I know it sucks, but it's going to be okay.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, no, but what?
Speaker A:At what cost?
Speaker A:Magic like that isn't free.
Speaker A:And he's gonna leave, but Castiel doesn't want to.
Speaker A:He's like, maybe you can fight that mark for years, even centuries, like Cain could, but you will.
Speaker A:Eventually it's gonna turn you.
Speaker A:And when it does, everyone else that you know might be long dead, but.
Speaker A:Except for me.
Speaker A:And I'll be the one that has to watch you murder the world.
Speaker A:It's changing you.
Speaker A:And no, you.
Speaker A:You shouldn't.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:Dean wouldn't have murdered that kid.
Speaker B:Yeah, and then Dean says that Dean has always been kind of a dick.
Speaker B:So we have more Winchester self hating.
Speaker B:Like his demon side is also his internal hatred of himself.
Speaker B:And so we have that in that thing happening.
Speaker B:And the cast is just like, dean, I don't want to hurt you.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, well, I'm Just gonna beat the.
Speaker B:Out of you and make everybody really uncomfortable.
Speaker A:It's very un.
Speaker A:Uncomfortable.
Speaker A:And they fight and it sucks.
Speaker A:It sucks.
Speaker A:And Dean.
Speaker A:So they fight and Dean.
Speaker B:And it's the reverse.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It's like the reverse of the scene in season five when Cass beat up Dean and you know, or whatever that was.
Speaker B:Yeah, but.
Speaker B:Yeah, so.
Speaker B:But so it's still just very.
Speaker B:It's always distressful when you see one of the trio, you know, turn against each other.
Speaker B:But this is.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker B:It's so brutal.
Speaker A:And it's sad too.
Speaker A:It's like this like extra layer of intense and sad and upsetting.
Speaker A:All the things.
Speaker A:And he gets an angel blade.
Speaker A:And Dean's about to freaking pretend like he's.
Speaker A:He acts like he's about to stab Castiel and he put.
Speaker A:Stabs the blade into a book next to Cass's head.
Speaker A:And ruining more books.
Speaker B:Like we didn't have enough books that were ruined.
Speaker B:Dean, you gotta put a Angel blade in one.
Speaker B:And then like he just stomps up.
Speaker A:You would say him.
Speaker A:Stay the hell away from me next time.
Speaker B:I won't miss I am Batman.
Speaker B:And then he.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And he.
Speaker B:And he leaves and forecast on the ground.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Awful.
Speaker A:Awful.
Speaker B:So who's the cast?
Speaker A:So our cast this week.
Speaker A:We just have a few folks to mention.
Speaker A:Casting couch.
Speaker A:It's the casting cow.
Speaker A:Were they on that show that time with that guy?
Speaker A:Cyrus Stein, played by Connor Price.
Speaker A:He's been in episodes of Alphas, Being Human, CSI Vegas, the Rookie and Tracker.
Speaker A:He was also Jay and Cinderella Man.
Speaker B:That's new.
Speaker A:Young Charlie and the movie Good Luck Chuck.
Speaker A: in the movie Carrie, the the: Speaker A:Roscoe, aka Gorilla Stein, aka Big Dude.
Speaker A:It was played by Josh Emerson.
Speaker A:He's been in episodes of Aliens in America, Hellcat, CSI New York and ncis.
Speaker A:He was also in Jennifer's Body and the Tooth Fairy.
Speaker A:Our Sheriff Landis was played by Sean Campbell.
Speaker A:He's in multiple episodes of Supernatural.
Speaker A:He was in episodes of MacGyver, True Calling, Tin Man, Fringe, Once Upon a Time, iZombie and X Files.
Speaker A:He was a captain in Flight 93, a fire captain, Flight 93 film, a police officer in Sucker Punch, and had a.
Speaker A:Was in a character in the bar in man of Steel.
Speaker A:And last from our cast list tonight is Seth that pours that mean cup of coffee coffee.
Speaker A:Played by Nathan Dales.
Speaker A:Yes, you may have seen him in episodes of Tower Prep, Fringe and iZombie, but we know and love him from as Daryl in Letterkenny that is Daryl from Letterkenny.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker B:A young Daryl.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:So besides that surprise, most of this episode was very disturbing.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:Oh, so disturbing.
Speaker B:Okay, so we've killed Charlie.
Speaker B:We set her on fire.
Speaker B:She had her hunter's funeral.
Speaker B:Which means, you know, she's not gonna be coming back.
Speaker B:Theoretically.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And now we have Cass being beaten to the inch of his life.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Dean getting meaner and meaner.
Speaker A:And now Crowley's got red eyes.
Speaker A:I don't know what that means.
Speaker B:Crossroads demons have red eyes, but also king of Hell.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:I'm saying, like, he got mean.
Speaker A:Mean is my point.
Speaker A:I guess.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Probably got his groove back.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker A:Crowley gets his groove back.
Speaker A:You're very excited about that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It was like this.
Speaker B:You know, we have.
Speaker B:You know, obviously, we've had the Crowley storyline of the humanity going through kind of wussing out.
Speaker B:Out.
Speaker B:He's been kind of trying to, like, going through his midhell crisis, trying to figure out who am I?
Speaker B:What kind of leader am I?
Speaker B:What, how do I run my minions.
Speaker B:And then his mom comes in and everything up.
Speaker B:And then he just has to remember, you know, what is his true identity is.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker B:And once you start living for yourself, I feel like that's when you live your best life.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:When you're your authentic self.
Speaker B:That's what they say.
Speaker A:Something like that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm pretty sure that's on tick tock.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Somewhere.
Speaker B:Anyway, so.
Speaker B:So next week will be our.
Speaker B:Our season finale.
Speaker B:What are your predictions for what will happen in the season finale?
Speaker B:Because I love how wrong you are every time.
Speaker B:So predict what you think will happen.
Speaker A:I mean, look, I am gonna say that.
Speaker A:Well, we've killed our Steins, so they are not.
Speaker A:And we.
Speaker A:So we made if only them for a couple episodes.
Speaker A:So it's clear they're not the Big Bad.
Speaker A:Even though they were huge catalysts, the storyline, I kind of.
Speaker A:They're gonna figure something out with the book and the Mark, and Dean's gonna be pissed.
Speaker A:I know that's gonna happen.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Other than that, I don't know.
Speaker A:I feel like I might be right on that.
Speaker A:But it's very upsetting, though.
Speaker A:I think there's gonna be.
Speaker A:I think Sam and Cass are gonna keep conspiring without talking to Dean.
Speaker A:And that's not going to help anything.
Speaker A:But now Dean's not gonna talk to them anyways.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:They're not going to learn communication skills over the next.
Speaker B:They don't go to therapy between now and the season finale?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:This episode is sponsored to you by Better Help.
Speaker B:All right, so what will happen next week?
Speaker B:Will Liz finally end the story of Rosaline Norton?
Speaker B:Will Diana study before her season 10 trivia?
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker B:Will Dean to Winchester turn black eyed and blue again?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:All right, see you next time.
Speaker B:Cheers.
Speaker B:Jerk.
Speaker A:Cheers.
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