3:13 Ghostfacers
GHOST! GHOST FACERS! We get to talk about the epic introduction of the Ghostfacers in Season 3, Episode 13 of Supernatural. Liz attempts to scare Diana's pants off with the hauntings of the Millermore Mansion in Dallas.
Lyrics to Ghostfacers theme song:
Ghost facers!! We face the ghosts when the others will not. We're Ghost...Ghostfacers. Stay in the kitchen when the kitchen gets hot. Ghost...Ghostfacers. We face the nightmare, we face the dread. Ghost...Ghostfacers. We face the faces, we face the dead!" (screams) When you trip and fall into the supernatural, we're who you're gonna call. We face them all! Ghost...Ghostfacers. We face the faces, we face the dead! We're Ghost...Ghostfacers!
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Transcript
On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we've got Daddy, Dean and Sam with the receipts.
Speaker B:We're going to help you with some party planning.
Speaker B:You can have games like the rat toss.
Speaker B:We'll also introduce you to our caterers who have many flavors of ghost cake.
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devils Trap podcast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:And I'm Liz.
Speaker A:And we're going to talk about Season 3, Episode 13, Ghost Facers.
Speaker B:Ghost.
Speaker B:Ghost Facers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So excited.
Speaker B:We have so much shit to get through during this episode so quickly.
Speaker B:Diana, what have you been doing?
Speaker A:I have not been doing much after our holiday season.
Speaker A:I took some like a bit quite quiet downtime.
Speaker A:Luckily though, I did have a very fun outing my husband.
Speaker A:I had a great afternoon exploring Italy this weekend, which is the amazing store.
Speaker B:And did you have a spicy meatball?
Speaker A:We bought some.
Speaker A:They weren't spicy, but I did bring some meatballs home and I cooked them.
Speaker B:Last night for dinner, but yum.
Speaker B:Did you cook them in the air fryer?
Speaker A:I did not.
Speaker A:We did a pork loin in the air fryer tonight.
Speaker A:By the way, I will have to send you that recipe.
Speaker A:Strong recommend anyways.
Speaker A:But I was impressed.
Speaker A:I was like, I don't feel like in the oven all day, so whatever.
Speaker A:Anyway, so we went to Italy and we drank a lot of wine and we had lots of meats and cheeses and some amazing bolognese and then brought a bunch of shit home and I made gorgonzola stuffed gnocchi.
Speaker A:Liz knows how I feel about gorgonzola.
Speaker B:Did you stuff the gnocchi?
Speaker B:Somebody else?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I was like, damn, you're gonna be really impressed.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:I bought made a lovely caprese style salad though with some really good house mozzarella.
Speaker A:But now we had a really good time.
Speaker A:It's just a really fun shopping experience.
Speaker A:It's a huge store.
Speaker A:We had wine, we had food, we bought a bunch of groceries.
Speaker A:We made multiple meals out of it.
Speaker A:And then we had some espresso because we needed to drive home from the mall because it's sip and shop feel kind of set up.
Speaker A:So yeah, it was a nice time on a shitty weather day.
Speaker A:That's really about it here.
Speaker A:We're just, you know, watching sports ball cowboys.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker A:We're doing all right.
Speaker A:And that's what I got for my entertaining life.
Speaker A:And so I'm just drinking and I'm drinking a very generic pinot noir tonight.
Speaker B:Pinot noir.
Speaker A:Using my cute glass that My brother and his wife got me.
Speaker A:It's got my name on it.
Speaker B:Thanks, Jamie.
Speaker A:How about you?
Speaker B:We were both drinking at the same time.
Speaker A:We both sipped at the same time.
Speaker A:It was a sip break.
Speaker A:So how about you?
Speaker B:I have been painting a bookcase.
Speaker A:You have?
Speaker B:I feel like that's all I've been doing because it's all I've been doing.
Speaker B:So I like, as I said last time, I've been on this major home reorganization.
Speaker B:And so I had started painting my coffee table.
Speaker B:And then I was like, man, it was like the coffee table right now is kind of in a gold and black state and it's probably going to go to all gold and it may have a spirit board on top of it.
Speaker B:I'm not sure I'm thinking that, but I was doing that.
Speaker B:I was looking at my espresso color bookcases and I was like, these would be really cute if they had gold inside of them.
Speaker B:And so the out of it will be that dark, you know, dark black.
Speaker B:And the inside would be gold.
Speaker B:And I was like, well, shit, I'm about to redo all my library organization, so I need to take.
Speaker B:It was like.
Speaker B:So I took all the books out and I was like, this will be a quick thing.
Speaker B:I'll just like slap on a coat of paint, right?
Speaker B:And I went for like the first coat of paint.
Speaker B:Like when the cubes, I'm like, oh, you need a primer because you didn't sand these because you're a lazy bitch.
Speaker B:But I was like, now I can get away with that.
Speaker B:It's ikea, right?
Speaker B:Like in this paint on this shit.
Speaker B:And then I was like, oh, you need a primer.
Speaker B:So then the only primer I could find was white.
Speaker B:So that means when I put the first layer of gold on top of it, then it had white streaks coming through it on what is.
Speaker B:Which looks really stupid with a black like bookcase outside.
Speaker B:So then I had to mix black paint with the gold in order to get the background of it to kind of have.
Speaker B:So where the, where the bottom color comes through, like, it at least makes sense.
Speaker B:Then I ran out of paint.
Speaker B:Then I got new paper.
Speaker B:Amazon.
Speaker B:Yes, I sometimes I stopped from the evil.
Speaker B:And so I basically, we all do.
Speaker A:Our best to resist.
Speaker A:Sometimes we succumb.
Speaker A:Sometimes you convenience as a motherfucker the.
Speaker B:Next day because you have piles of books all over your fucking house and it's insane.
Speaker A:So, yeah, so to be clear, yes, we are saying Amazon is the devil.
Speaker A:But yes, we all try to.
Speaker B:I mean, yeah.
Speaker A:And we use it sometimes.
Speaker B:I'm evil anyway, so I don't have a soul.
Speaker B:What does it matter?
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But today, before we recorded, I finished the last coat of the gold paint.
Speaker B:I think the tape will remove.
Speaker B:I'll do some touch ups, do some ceiling, and then finally can go to organizing the books.
Speaker B:But this should be a good week.
Speaker B:Fingers crossed.
Speaker B:If plans I have don't go to shit.
Speaker B:Should be getting to see last podcast the Left Live on Thursday.
Speaker B:They did a streaming episode last night which was hilarious and weird, but I'm excited to go see something out and you know, not.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then Saturday, going to Hiram for a prohibition cocktail.
Speaker A:That looks so fun.
Speaker B:I'm very.
Speaker B:I'm very stoked for those things.
Speaker B:So I am drinking.
Speaker B:I. I would say it's a Karen wine, but it's a shark because it's a chardonnay.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:But it's from Sing your.
Speaker B:And I don't think I. I don't think they allow Karen's there, so.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Jealous of your Signore Stock?
Speaker B:All right, well, I'm going to drink it all in the next couple of days, so.
Speaker B:All right, so this episode.
Speaker B:Oh my gosh.
Speaker B:All right, so we've got.
Speaker B:There's a lot of background on this.
Speaker B:So guys, just, just buckle up.
Speaker B:We got a lot of shit to talk about.
Speaker B:All right, so Ghostfacers.
Speaker B:This was season three, episode 13.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:It was directed by Phil Scritchia, our favorite suit wearing dude, and was written by Ben edl.
Speaker B:So first note on this, Eric said that he loved it from the moment Ben verse came up with it.
Speaker B:He comes into the room and says, hey, do you remember those characters Ed and Harry from season one, the Hellhound?
Speaker B:Well, I think they have their own reality show and I think they're filming an episode of the reality show and on video.
Speaker B:And Sam and Dean stumbled into the reality show.
Speaker B:The show is called Ghost Facers.
Speaker B:And here's the theme song.
Speaker B:I wrote it over the weekend.
Speaker A:What do you think,.
Speaker B:Ghost?
Speaker B:When others.
Speaker B:Stay in the kitchen where the kitchen is hot.
Speaker A:Will you pass the light?
Speaker B:We took the phone into the Supernatural.
Speaker B:And everyone's like, you had us that theme song.
Speaker B:So obviously right off the bat before we kind of.
Speaker B:I've got a couple more things just on the actual production of this.
Speaker B:But Diana, what did you think when the Supernatural opener did not happen and opened with Ghostwriters?
Speaker A:I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker A:I was also like, okay, they're going to do like this super fun thing and just like clip back and forth instead of like.
Speaker A:Or like just be part of like the beginning part of the episode instead of it actually being almost the entire episode without giving away.
Speaker A:I mean, we're going to talk about it in a minute, so I'm not really giving anything away.
Speaker A:But like, I was like, oh, it was basically.
Speaker A:It was almost like watching their pilot was the concept, which is actually really fun and different and nice way to break it up and very entertaining.
Speaker A:I liked it.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And then also because they were going with this reality show.
Speaker A:Yeah, they went.
Speaker A:They bought.
Speaker A:You bought in all the way on it.
Speaker A:Because they did well.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so they did not film it like they filmed a normal episode.
Speaker B:This was all filmed using all, like the cameras that you would for a reality TV show.
Speaker A:A low, low budget reality TV show.
Speaker B:Lower, high budget.
Speaker B:But, you know, a pretty much on par with, you know, the original Ghost Hunters.
Speaker B:Like, you know, like.
Speaker B:And this is where I feel like.
Speaker B:I don't know if you have a slight disadvantage because I know you've watched some paranormal shows when I make you, but this is like such a play on.
Speaker A:I have an awareness of them enough that I get that this was totally a play on those.
Speaker A:And I got it.
Speaker A:I mean, it wasn't like, oh, they're like.
Speaker A:I mean, I know enough to know that.
Speaker A:But you know, I damned well do not watch that shit at all.
Speaker A:Because I'm a fucking wuss is the main reason.
Speaker A:In case.
Speaker A:In case anybody had missed that part.
Speaker A:It's mostly because I'm a scaredy cat.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, okay, so like I said, I think the way they filmed it made just the entire, like, the production value when we watch it, like really sent that home in april.
Speaker B:On.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:Buddy TV.
Speaker B:I don't know who the fuck Buddy TV is, but they've got a website and in April they interviewed Jared Padalecki.
Speaker B:And so one of the things they were talking about was this episode.
Speaker B:And they were like, hey, so this was filmed like a reality show.
Speaker B:And he was talking about how weird it was because there's no, like, getting your light and hit your mark.
Speaker B:Because we have these big, huge, gigantic, expensive cameras now.
Speaker B:We have very tiny, expensive cameras.
Speaker B:It is just stuff you can buy from Best Buy, little high definition, whatever brand it is that you strap on the side of your head for like a security camera or you're just holding it in the palm of your hand.
Speaker B:We had like 11 of them set up in different rooms and then all the characters had headband Cams and they were holding cameras.
Speaker B:It was really cool.
Speaker B:Sorry, I'm trying to pedal like you.
Speaker B:This kind of shot, like Cloverfield, which I haven't seen yet, but I've heard a lot of good things about that.
Speaker B:So sort of Blair Witch meets Cloverfield kind of real scary show.
Speaker B:I'm also doing my Jared eyebrow and nose.
Speaker B:Like you can't see because you're on.
Speaker B:We're on audio, but Diana can see my Padalecki nose acting.
Speaker B:But anyways, it was hard to get into because we just had a three month break.
Speaker B:I think it was the longest gents that I had gone without playing Sam and Dean since the pilot.
Speaker B:Even the difference between the pilot when we shot Wendigo was like two and a half months.
Speaker B:We went a long time.
Speaker B:So it was weird to get back on the set anyways.
Speaker B:But it was really fun and a fun sort of way to ease back into the reality of film days.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:You're a big lug.
Speaker B:You're a sweet, big lug when you answer these questions.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we'll talk a little bit more about the production service.
Speaker B:And there's obviously going to be a lot of side notes because this is, I think, one of the first, like, really meta episodes of Supernatural where they're just poking fun at themselves and the genre in general.
Speaker B:I'm sure there is one before this, but.
Speaker B:All right, so we just.
Speaker B:Let's jump into this.
Speaker B:Let's dive.
Speaker B:We're gonna start off with Harry and Ed.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And so we enter, we start with the episode with them sitting by a fireplace explaining then their dorky ass message to TV executives that this is the pilot of their TV show.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So this is their pitch reel for Ghostbusters.
Speaker B:Then we break into the most epic theme song ever.
Speaker B:Ghost.
Speaker B:Ghost Facers.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:So do you know the lyrics?
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Do you memorize them?
Speaker A:Not memorize them.
Speaker A:I'm sorry for not memorizing them.
Speaker B:Okay, so we'll do a lyric poetry version of that just so it doesn't get bored.
Speaker B:All right, so Ghost Facers we face the ghosts when others will not yeah, we're ghosts Ghost facers Stay in the kitchen when the kitchen gets hot Ghosts Ghost facers We face the nightmare we face the dead Ghost Ghost facers We face the faces we face the dead.
Speaker A:Some deep lyrics.
Speaker A:Deep lyrics.
Speaker A:Deep lyrics.
Speaker B:Deep lyrics.
Speaker B:That were all performed by Van Edlund and the composer for the episode and a bunch of other people from the production that just basically went in, grabbed a bunch of cars, guitars, which is something that, like, me, Diana and Dave would do, like, some random weekend, like, you know, listen to her theme song.
Speaker B:So I highly enjoy that piece.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:That was super fun.
Speaker A:I started cracking up the second I came on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Did babe get to hear the theme song?
Speaker A:I did play it for him, yes.
Speaker A:I said ok. Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And in their intro, they introduced all of their characters from Forgo's Facers, which of course includes Ed and Harry, as well as Spruce, Maggie, Corbett, plus Sam and Dean.
Speaker A:Throw in the middle fingers.
Speaker A:And there's an amazing.
Speaker A:It ends with, like a amazing, like, pose by all their gear.
Speaker A:And it's Ed, Harry, Spruce, and Maggie posing.
Speaker A:And there's a really sweet, slow mo walking in front of their.
Speaker A:Their amazing blue car, which is.
Speaker B:Did they have this in the last episode?
Speaker A:I believe we saw it for a second in the last episode.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think we commented on the Gremlin before.
Speaker A:I love a Gremlin.
Speaker A:I remember talking, I love the Gremlin because I like Gremlins.
Speaker B:So we still love this Gremlin and.
Speaker A:We still love the Gremlin.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:It's adorable.
Speaker A:Is that the car that's going to.
Speaker B:Be at the convention?
Speaker B:I think it might be.
Speaker B:I think.
Speaker B:No, wait, I don't remember.
Speaker B:There's a.
Speaker B:There's another car that's gonna be.
Speaker B:No, I feel like it's yurty.
Speaker A:Oh, maybe that's what it is.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I got excited because I was like, it was some other car and I couldn't remember what it was, but.
Speaker A:Oh, well, I was just hoping.
Speaker A:Anyway.
Speaker B:Ghost car.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:There's another car for that record.
Speaker A:For the record, we are gonna be at the.
Speaker A:The Plano.
Speaker A:They're calling it Dallas, but the Plano.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's Plano.
Speaker B:It's not Dallas.
Speaker A:The Supernatural convention in Plano will be there two weeks away.
Speaker A:Like, that's crazy.
Speaker A:Oh, it's almost time.
Speaker A:We'll have to double check.
Speaker A:But yeah, we'll be there.
Speaker A:Find us, Get a sticker, hang out.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:As long as you're not weird.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:So I do like their, like, commentary back and forth.
Speaker A:And they're talking about how they have time to do this because basically they basically run the Kinkos.
Speaker A:Because, man, I miss Kinkos.
Speaker A:I don't have a use for Kinkos, but, man, I miss Kinkos.
Speaker A:It was just funny to me.
Speaker B:Good times at Kinkos and also Kinko's just makes me happy.
Speaker B:Like, every time I go into Kinko's, I want excuses to print more things.
Speaker B:I'm like, really?
Speaker B:YouTube, it was like, you'll do a banner.
Speaker B:And I'm like, what do I need a banner of?
Speaker B:Like, there's got to be something that I can make.
Speaker B:Like, I can make something up and just.
Speaker B:And like, that's how we made all our zines.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And then sometimes I had to use them for, like, you know, corporate daddy and, like, go in and get things that were, like, bound in, like, spirals.
Speaker B:I love a good spiral binding with, like, that first, like, gloss paper inside.
Speaker A:Ooh, I got to, like, make some of those before, like, I had the machine to do it for a while.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Extremely satisfying.
Speaker B:It is satisfying, but it's also annoying because you then would sometimes miss, like, one thing and then, like, you, like, you fucked.
Speaker B:You just like, ruined, like, 50 pages and you're like, oh, my God, that was like $2.
Speaker B:And then government's going to put me in jail, because that's generally where I was doing.
Speaker B:That was for the government.
Speaker B:But anyway, so Kinkos.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:So Ghost Facers jumps in and they have.
Speaker A:The Ghost Facers pilot has phases, and that's how it's kind of like, broken down as their episode.
Speaker A:Their television episode within a television episode.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And before that.
Speaker B:So Ed is our team co leader.
Speaker B:Harry is our team co leader and demolitions expert.
Speaker B:We must look at that.
Speaker B:And also, I think I wanted to point out they were two lone wolves who needed other wolves.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Which makes me think they have a wolf blanket somewhere.
Speaker B:So we're doing phase one.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker A:Or Dave does, I should say.
Speaker A:Anyways, all right, homework.
Speaker A:So we show this is all the scenes showing them kind of like walking around their little hq, I guess, which is garage.
Speaker A:But Corbett gets introduced and he is their intern slash cook.
Speaker A:And basically he just answered a flyer and wondered where do ghosts come from and decided to join their team.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:And as they're walking through, we get to see their murder board.
Speaker A:They do have a murder board.
Speaker B:And directing Corbett and how to make a proper one.
Speaker B:And also this is where we start seeing the posters for Covid, which makes me so fucking excited.
Speaker B:And it' a running joke through the episode.
Speaker B:And Diana is looking at me with a blank face.
Speaker B:I swear I've talked to my.
Speaker B:For Covid.
Speaker B:All right, so if you don't know Covid.
Speaker B:So Covid is a film which was produced was like one of, like, a notorious bad films.
Speaker B:And so it's famous because there was a documentary made about the making of COVID called American Movie, which won a bunch of awards and then once it started winning awards, and I think Covid did too, but it's really about a guy who is talking about a covenant.
Speaker B:He doesn't know that the right way to say Kevin is Kevin, so he just calls it Covid.
Speaker B:So the movie is.
Speaker A:You've talked to me about that.
Speaker A:And I've.
Speaker A:I just thought throughout, and I just blew it off.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, just like, say, use the same poster a bunch.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's.
Speaker B:There's a whole thing in there.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So we got the COVID stuff.
Speaker B:We got.
Speaker B:So Alan got his flyer from the Outmill outlet mall in Skoga, and we learned that Ed has an adopted sister, and that's Maggie.
Speaker B:And who is she played by?
Speaker B:Oh, so she's Maggie Zadimore.
Speaker A:Well, research team.
Speaker A:Yeah, so she's on the research team.
Speaker A:So we did introduce briefly, Alan J. Corbett is played by Dustin Milligan.
Speaker A:He's been in a lot of things, but to me, the most important thing that he's been in was Ted on Schitt's Creek, because I fucking love that show.
Speaker A:And it brought me joy.
Speaker B:And he also brought joy on that show.
Speaker B:He was amazing.
Speaker B:Did you end up watching it?
Speaker B:I haven't watched all of it.
Speaker B:I've watched the first couple of seasons.
Speaker A:Holding it in.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So I love Schitt's Creed.
Speaker A:Anyways, so that's that.
Speaker A:Maggie.
Speaker A:Maggie is played by Brittany Ishibashi, who is in Marvel's Runaways as Tina and has had a lot of appearances in other roles in sitcoms and things like that.
Speaker B:And she was in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that was her dream, apparently.
Speaker B:She said a lot.
Speaker B:So, I mean, spoiler alert.
Speaker B:You may see more of these characters in the future.
Speaker B:There may be a web series about these characters.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker B:That exists.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But I loved her in runways.
Speaker B:She's so good.
Speaker B:Like, I just.
Speaker B:I adore her.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:All right, go back.
Speaker A:And then we meet Kenny Spruce.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A: He describes himself as: Speaker B:Well, and it's funny if you read the.
Speaker B:You know, think it through.
Speaker B:All right, so his.
Speaker B:So remember, he's basically, he's a licensed shamanologist.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So the 15th, 16th Jew, 1:16 Cherokee his grand.
Speaker B:So he's mostly Jew.
Speaker B:His grandfather was a mole.
Speaker B:So those of you who don't know what a Moyle is, they are the ones who snip the tip during a circumcision during Jewish religious rites.
Speaker B:His Great grandfather was a talus maker.
Speaker B:And then his great great grandfather was a degenerate gambler and had a peyote addiction.
Speaker B:And then if you go into the confessionals, which we'll talk about later, that kind of explains how he was born.
Speaker A:Yeehaw.
Speaker A:Anyway, I was amused.
Speaker A:He's played by Austin Basis, who has been in just a lot of shows, had a lot of single episode roles in a lot of programs, but he did have an ongoing role in CNW's Beauty and the Beast as well.
Speaker B:So I never watched that.
Speaker A:I did not either.
Speaker A:It was a long running series.
Speaker A:It wasn't terribly long ago.
Speaker A:There was one.
Speaker A:I know there was like a really crappy Beauty of the beast in the 90s.
Speaker A:It was the live action.
Speaker A:I think it was like late, early 90s.
Speaker A:It was like a live action one.
Speaker A: the CW did another one in the: Speaker B:I feel like I need to be real high to watch either of those.
Speaker A:But yeah, I. Yeah, I can't.
Speaker B:It's like, yeah, I was never going to watch these.
Speaker B:But anyway, so we get these great introduction of all these characters.
Speaker B:We also learned that.
Speaker B:So Maggie is Ed's adopted sister.
Speaker B:When Ed and Harry met each other at computer camp, it was love at first geek.
Speaker B:Oh, that's according to Maggie.
Speaker B:So, all right, so we think we're going to go from there to our murder board.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So they're going to go after the other.
Speaker A:They want to go to the leap.
Speaker A:Find the leap year ghost at the Morton house.
Speaker A:Basically nobody's ever stayed the night and made it past midnight on February 29th.
Speaker A:And so that's what they're.
Speaker A:Their plan is to do.
Speaker A:And this we also get a little confessional where we find out that Harry is convinced that Corbett has the hots for Ed.
Speaker A:He definitely does, is the answer.
Speaker B:He does.
Speaker B:And we know he does because he made him vanilla.
Speaker B:A French vanilla coffee, instant cappuccino.
Speaker B:And I was watching this, I'm like, I actually really used to like that.
Speaker B:And I was trying to remember why.
Speaker B:And I was like, do I want to go to the store and buy this to see if I still like have a palette for.
Speaker B:I think I liked it because my grandmother used to make instant coffee.
Speaker B:And I think like that.
Speaker B:Like, but also we used to not have Keurigs, guys.
Speaker B:Like, there was a time where like you had to make like a pot of coffee or instant coffee.
Speaker B:So that was like when I was in grad school, like, those were things that kept me awake.
Speaker B:Was Just like hot water and that powdery instant cappuccino shit.
Speaker B:Dana's like, ew, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:But it tasted good.
Speaker B:But I don't know, just.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:Did I not know?
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker A:Maybe it's still a nostalgic.
Speaker A:Nostalgic flavor.
Speaker A:Sometimes flavors can be nostalgic like that still.
Speaker B:So our mortar board.
Speaker B:Murder.
Speaker B:Our murder board is about to fall.
Speaker A:Yes, it is.
Speaker A:Because dad opened the garage and it was up against the garage door.
Speaker B:So now we learn that ghost face versus HQ is really Eds parents garage.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Which surprises nobody.
Speaker B:But I do love.
Speaker A:It was really well set up for a garage, but.
Speaker B:And they also cut like the cuts before this.
Speaker B:Like, you know, obviously this is, you know, the tongue in cheek shit.
Speaker B:Like they.
Speaker B:They probably would have cut that out for the regular show.
Speaker B:But like.
Speaker B:But the way that it was cut, it looked like they were going into like a normal office or like a storage shed or something.
Speaker B:Like they.
Speaker B:And then you're like, oh, yeah, you're in your parents garage.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's a huge garage too.
Speaker B:Good on you as parents.
Speaker B:Like, that's a.
Speaker B:That's a good space.
Speaker A:So phase two, infiltration.
Speaker A:So they're breaking into the gate around this haunted house.
Speaker A:And as they're like about to like cut the lock to go through the chain link fence, Maggie asks if they have a permit, which I think is adorbs.
Speaker A:But also it's like they're like, wait, what?
Speaker A:Oh, we should.
Speaker A:How about that?
Speaker A:Maybe we should do that next time.
Speaker A:Which is a really.
Speaker A:I found a very amusing little exchange.
Speaker B:But it does make you think too about like regular like haunted, like paranormal shows.
Speaker B:Like, because there are places like now, like it's become like the spot to.
Speaker A:Go to or whatever.
Speaker B:Like it's a way to make money.
Speaker B:But like, but when, like especially like when this was being filmed, like going up to a house being like, we would like to get a permit to investigate ghosts here.
Speaker A:Like, right.
Speaker A:I mean, or you just have to get permission from the owner.
Speaker A:You have to get a fucking coi.
Speaker A:I mean, like, do you have to get like a liability waivers?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Like, what's the insurance?
Speaker B:Like?
Speaker B:I want to know.
Speaker A:I mean, you have to carry a liability policy or you have to.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Like, is that how.
Speaker A:Like, I would think so.
Speaker B:Or does your liability like cover demon possession?
Speaker A:Oh man.
Speaker A:If you can find an insurance policy that does that anyways.
Speaker A:And then we start hearing Grand Funks or an American band and there's a.
Speaker B:Car rolling by, a very recognizable engine.
Speaker A:I will say I thought it sounded louder and slightly different than normal here.
Speaker A:Personally.
Speaker B:We'll take Diana.
Speaker B:She's our car expert.
Speaker A:So Diana says, that's a big stretch.
Speaker B:You were like, this was a cash link.
Speaker B:They pulled that sound off of YouTube.
Speaker B:Like, that was not baby's engine.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, so it just sounded a little bit more.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It just.
Speaker A:It just had a different exhaust sound to me.
Speaker A:I thought it was like.
Speaker A:I was like, what?
Speaker A:Like, I wasn't like, oh, it's baby.
Speaker A:I was like, huh.
Speaker A:There's a big, loud.
Speaker A:Is that a.
Speaker A:Is that a very motorcycle Y to me, the way the muffler sounded to me.
Speaker A:And so I was like.
Speaker A:I was like, oh.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, it's not like a pickup truck with a big Harley.
Speaker B:Because Harley has it sound copyrighted, of.
Speaker A:Course, but I knew it wasn't a motorcycle.
Speaker A:It's a bigger engine sound.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But it just sounded different.
Speaker A:I was like, huh.
Speaker A:But anyways, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker A:Maybe I was overthinking it.
Speaker A:And it was just the way it was queued up, but that was me.
Speaker A:So either way, we've got our legendary Winchester brothers rolling up to the scene.
Speaker A:And, yeah, as they kind of roll on by, the Ghost Facers take their opportunity to enter the house, and they set up their command center.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And then Harry's has the unfortunate thing of Calvin Command Center Eagle's Nest, which, okay, one is.
Speaker B:So those of you who don't know, that was a place of Hitler's, like, one of his.
Speaker B:You know, it was Hitler's fortress.
Speaker A:People use that.
Speaker A:They don't like.
Speaker A:A lot of people call that.
Speaker B:But also, like, there's an Eagle's Nest, like, in between my house and San Antonio on the back roads.
Speaker B:And every time I drive past it, I'm like, did you not want to change this?
Speaker B:Like, why did you ever, like, like, you should change the name of this.
Speaker B:This is not.
Speaker B:It's not a good thing, so.
Speaker B:And then it makes it even worse, because as they're, like, setting up all their equipment, Kenny calls ed mine Fuhrer, and I'm like, what?
Speaker A:He does?
Speaker B:It was like, okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Like, this is.
Speaker B:Thankfully, it's the only time.
Speaker B:We've got some nasty references in this.
Speaker A:I'm gonna bet they're unintentional.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B: 're gonna go to Morton House,: Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And so they're gonna do a battery check.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they're.
Speaker A:They're just, you know, they wanted.
Speaker A:They did their little.
Speaker A:Some.
Speaker A:I forget what who said it even, but there was spin the tires, light the fires.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's been the tire.
Speaker B:So they're basically doing a walk through.
Speaker B:And this is their.
Speaker B:Their split up, right.
Speaker B:So they're gonna sportsball.
Speaker B:People do when they put their hands in the huddle.
Speaker B:It's a huddle, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a huddle.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So Harry says spin the tires, light the fires.
Speaker B:Ghost facers on 1, 2, 3.
Speaker B:And they all go.
Speaker A:Ghost Facers, Facers.
Speaker A:And then they bring their hand down in front.
Speaker A:Like, the rock and roll hand is what I usually call it.
Speaker A:Like, there's like the.
Speaker A:Like almost like a jazz fingers like that.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:We used to call it.
Speaker B:You reach for, like, you reach for the sky and then bring down the rock.
Speaker B:I don't know we had for this.
Speaker A:You push out the rock and then you bring it back in.
Speaker A:As usual, what I would do.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think we found our highlight reel for this episode.
Speaker B:And this.
Speaker A:There's a lot of awkward dance moves.
Speaker A:Y' all are welcome.
Speaker A:Yeah, we'll see about securing those for you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The other thing we missed during this time is that Corvat was basically told he looks like a Robocop.
Speaker B:I've only seen that because it comes back and he is just camoed up with, like, just equipment everywhere.
Speaker B:All right, so we're gonna go to phase three.
Speaker B:What's phase three?
Speaker A:FaceTime.
Speaker B: All right, so Morton House,: Speaker A:I have an interjection here.
Speaker A:I mean, these guys are supposed to know what they're doing.
Speaker A:And we've all watched these shows a million times, and they still think it's a good idea to split up.
Speaker A:And they do it throughout this episode.
Speaker A:And it made me want to throw things.
Speaker A:That's what I've got.
Speaker A:Go ahead.
Speaker B:But they did not split up into being a look alone, so I'm okay.
Speaker A:Oh, they do.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker B:Eventually they do.
Speaker B:But right now, this is.
Speaker B:I. I think this is sanctioned paranormal shit.
Speaker B:Unless, like.
Speaker B:So there's the new season, or I guess it's not new on the season, but on Fear Facers, Fear Destination, Destination, they all have that.
Speaker B:I swear to God.
Speaker B:We could probably, like, have, like, accidentally.
Speaker A:Named seven TV shows.
Speaker B:Just accidentally naming seven parents.
Speaker B:All of those shows ex and some paranormal is either on YouTube or on the Learning Channel or the History Channel or.
Speaker B:But you can find them all.
Speaker B:Discovery plus, whatever.
Speaker A:Please sponsor us.
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Speaker B:Plus, I watch you all the time.
Speaker B:Vanity Fair.
Speaker B:Confidential is the greatest show that was ever made.
Speaker B:Anyways, okay, let's just go back.
Speaker B:Okay, so we're there, and they're doing, like, this is, I think, the most spoofing of the paranormal TV shows, because they're, like, asking, like, the questions of, like, oh, like, what's your name?
Speaker A:Can you.
Speaker B:Can you play with my balls?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:They don't ask that, but might as well.
Speaker B:So my friend that I went on the ghost investigation with over the break, like, one of the things he always says, like, why are all these investigators so polite to these ghosts?
Speaker B:I was like, like, oh, what's your name?
Speaker B:Can you respond, thank you.
Speaker B:And just, like, you know, like, it's like, if I was a ghost who I want to be talked to you like that.
Speaker B:I would just want to be like, hey, like, what's up?
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker B:Hey, I'm Larry the ghost.
Speaker B:What you doing?
Speaker B:What do you do?
Speaker A:Don't kiss my ass.
Speaker A:Just come a ghost.
Speaker B:I mean, I don't like small talk as a living human being.
Speaker B:I don't think I would like it as a ghost.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:All right, so we've got.
Speaker B:Ed has an emf.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And this is Ed.
Speaker A:Ed and Corbett walking together, and they've got.
Speaker A:You know, they hear a noise, and Corbett's kind of freaking out.
Speaker A:And then Ed says, calm the whirlwinds of your mind.
Speaker A:And then they turn on night vision.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's kind of a juice.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes, he is.
Speaker A:So team two is on the second floor.
Speaker A:That's Harry, Spruce and Maggie.
Speaker A:They've got the same equipment, and.
Speaker A:But while they're walking around up there, the camera kind of starts going on the.
Speaker A:On the fritz.
Speaker A:It's unlike.
Speaker A:That's what I kept the terminology I kept using because it was going staticky.
Speaker B:I use fritzing a lot until later.
Speaker B:And then we get our new term for it, which I then leverage.
Speaker B:But right now, I'm calling it fritzing.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And they open this door, and Harry freaks the fuck out and starts running and screaming.
Speaker B:Okay, one.
Speaker B:Harry kicks in the door, but he doesn't, like, just, like, taps it with his foot.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Okay, we're gonna try and do this on zoom.
Speaker B:So Diana can see me kicking in the door, and I'm like.
Speaker B:So he tries to kick in the door, and then someone's like, just turn the knob.
Speaker B:And so he was like.
Speaker B:So he turns the knob and then kicks the door again.
Speaker B:And so this I Told you guys.
Speaker B:We had a lot of extra production notes.
Speaker B:So the reason he's running and screaming, he was because he saw a rat, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So this wasn't planned.
Speaker A:Dead rat.
Speaker B:A dead rat.
Speaker B:So scrutiny has said, basically, like, all the actors on this, they knew they were, like, improv actors.
Speaker B:So a lot of stuff that we see in the episode and in the bonus content, which is about to talk about, a lot of that's improv.
Speaker B:So it's just like, kind of like things they threw at them.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So basically, scripture said the rat thing was his idea and he just put the rat in the floor and didn't tell Travis that it was going to be there.
Speaker B:And so that reaction is his real reaction to, like, walking in and seeing the rat.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:So when they did the confessionals, which you see right after this, was he just, like, riffing off of that?
Speaker B:So, like, he, like, saw the rat and so when he did the confessional, he.
Speaker B:He was as hairy.
Speaker B:He was like, I don't like rats.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Which I think is just fucking brilliant.
Speaker B:And that's what makes, like, this whole day.
Speaker A:Didn't like, whatever, but, like.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And they just.
Speaker B:I also just love people who take content and run with it.
Speaker B:So on the DVD for this, which is.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm very glad that.
Speaker B:Okay, Blu Ray or whatever the fuck.
Speaker B:I bought the thing that I have a thing that's an optical disc and it spins around and so on there, it has.
Speaker B:It has like, 16 minutes of these confessionals.
Speaker B:So all the different scenes with, like, Maggie and Spruce and Corbett and all of them, and it's just like, random questions have been Edlund we're throwing at them, like, what do you think of Sam and Dean?
Speaker B:And so they're all pretty funny.
Speaker B:Corbett shit's hilarious because he's always like.
Speaker B:He's, you know, talks a lot, obviously, about Ed, talks a little about Harry, and then, like, gets to Maggie and he's like, like, yeah, she's fine.
Speaker B:So just really good, great content.
Speaker B:There is.
Speaker B:I found it on YouTube and it probably shouldn't be there because, you know, Warner Brothers owns his content.
Speaker B:But we'll put a link in the show notes and then just don't tell your friends.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Just don't tell YouTube that that's up there.
Speaker B:And, you know, we'll see how long it lasts.
Speaker B:If otherwise, I can send you a link for a toy browser and you can go find it on your.
Speaker B:And this also led to.
Speaker B:I think Diana got a text message for me last night.
Speaker B:Did you Keep.
Speaker B:Do you want to read the text message out loud?
Speaker B:If you can pull it up and so you can do it in my voice if you want.
Speaker A:Oh, I don't.
Speaker B:And I know I sent Diana a lot of text messages.
Speaker B:She's like, I had to scroll through, like, a thousand messages ago.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's a lot of top hat conversations.
Speaker B:I'm just gonna say the top hat saga is real.
Speaker A:Harry kicks indoor after Spruce suggests turning the knob, screams, and run away.
Speaker A:And we see a rat, which apparently was a joke played on him.
Speaker A:They kept in, then he improved about it.
Speaker A:So we had a trolley question.
Speaker A:Now we have Liz's rest.
Speaker A:Now we have Liz's rat question.
Speaker A:Spruce throws the rat at Harry again, which he doesn't think is funny, but I think it's hilarious and totally something I would do, except for the germs.
Speaker A:Gross.
Speaker A:But maybe worth it.
Speaker A:I would more likely throw a living rat, but that seems kind of mean to the rat.
Speaker A:Taxidermy rat.
Speaker A:I would throw for sure.
Speaker B:And scene.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The text I received from Liz last night just saying.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think it's legit.
Speaker B:I mean, so, I mean, Diana, taxidermy.
Speaker A:Rap for sure is the way I got it.
Speaker B:Well, I was just like, what level of.
Speaker B:You know, Because I am not opposed to throwing things at people for, you know, because it's funny.
Speaker B:And so I was like, no, because I was thinking, like, New York subway rat.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Like, if I saw, like, pizza rat, would I touch pizza rat?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:No, I'm not gonna touch pizza rat.
Speaker B:He's gross.
Speaker B:But a stuffed pizza rat, maybe.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That all.
Speaker B:That seems funny gets the point across.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, Diana, which rat would you throw?
Speaker B:I don't know if I want to throw a rat.
Speaker B:Fine.
Speaker B:You can't be in my rat throwing club.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker B:I feel like he's throwing a taxidermy rat.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I feel bad throwing a taxidermy rat, too.
Speaker A:I feel worse throwing the taxidermy rat than the dead rat.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:No, but the taxidermy rat, I feel like, has been cleaned of bacteria.
Speaker B:Hopefully for sure, at least, because I'm just like.
Speaker B:The reason I don't want to touch the dead rat is not out of respect for the dead rat.
Speaker B:It's just because plague.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, it's fair.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Okay, so we come back downstairs, and to Corbett having a not good time.
Speaker A:No, Corbett's very upset.
Speaker A:Him and Ed with Corbett's night vision.
Speaker A:But then there's flashlights in the hallway, and you hear freeze Police officers.
Speaker A:Don't move.
Speaker A:Move.
Speaker A:Guess who it is.
Speaker B:Is it the boys?
Speaker A:It's the boys.
Speaker A:So Ed and Corbett are, like, totally freaking out now and, like, makes, like, whimpering noises.
Speaker A:Sam's demanding id.
Speaker A:And then Ed starts to kind of recognize them.
Speaker A:And then Sam starts to kind of recognize them and.
Speaker B:Yeah, and then we get the first bleeping sky.
Speaker A:We do.
Speaker B:Which I thought was just a great thing for this episode.
Speaker A:It needed it.
Speaker A:Yeah, it needed it.
Speaker B:Every time somebody swears, they get a skull over their mouth, which is also the O in the ghost Wasters logo,.
Speaker A:And they bleep and it bleeps.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Then we get to.
Speaker A:We get those.
Speaker A:And then Ed calls Dean Chiselchest and basically it's like, hey, we're already set up.
Speaker A:We beat you guys here.
Speaker A:Too bad.
Speaker A:So sad.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, so.
Speaker A:And then Dean kind of, like, shoves that around a little bit and that's where his partner is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I think we also.
Speaker B:They do a really good job too, of giving.
Speaker B:If you had not seen that first episode from season one, they give you that exposition of, like, what happened?
Speaker B:That's the right word.
Speaker B:But the summary, the plot summary of that in like, very simple terms are like, oh, yeah, West Texas Tulpa almost got them killed.
Speaker B:Like, oh, right, now I know where they're from.
Speaker B:So from a writer standpoint, I thought that was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So if you are.
Speaker A:If you are not like a hardcore regular watcher, you'd be able to like, pick up like, oh, these guys have crossed paths before in a different event.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they.
Speaker A:They're fine, but they don't have great feelings about each other.
Speaker A:So on the second floor, we see the EMF is spiking and there's.
Speaker A:And there's a, like a temperature drop and the camera's back on the fritz.
Speaker A:And then you see a, like a man in, like a suit.
Speaker A:Like 19, like a retro style suit.
Speaker A:Like, I'd say 40s or 50s style.
Speaker B:He's a 40 suit.
Speaker B:And he is pumped full of lead.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And, yeah, Spruce is yelling for Harry and Maggie.
Speaker A:They run and they see it, and the ghost says, look, buddy, I'm sorry, that's it.
Speaker A:And then he's like, I'm telling you, it's all the money I have.
Speaker A:And then he gets shot a bunch and disappears.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then the, like, they do a great cut to commercial where they just, like, have this freeze on Harry and Maggie and then, like, go, Caesars, like comes across.
Speaker B:And I just thought that was fucking clever.
Speaker A:Very, very clever.
Speaker A:So we get back to downstairs and the bros are the bros. That's how I know it.
Speaker A:Saved my screen shorthand.
Speaker A:Brothers Sam and Dean are asking, ed, what do you think you're doing at the Morton house on a leap year?
Speaker A:It's like, obviously, we spend the night for a fucking TV show.
Speaker A:And no one.
Speaker A:No one ever spent the night.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, no, because they don't live to talk about it.
Speaker A:And everybody's like, what?
Speaker A:No, just no one ever has.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, sam has the fucking receipts.
Speaker A:And he is ready to tell them.
Speaker B:Yeah, the Sam's receipts.
Speaker B:I was like.
Speaker B:So that I think plays into his.
Speaker B:Like, my notes on Dean yelling at them.
Speaker B:It's like, it's Daddy Dean.
Speaker B:So we have Daddy Dean and Sam with the receipts.
Speaker B:Receipts.
Speaker A:So oh, my God.
Speaker A:Daddy Dean and Sam with the receipts.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he's like, yeah.
Speaker A:Not because no one's ever done it, because they all fucking die.
Speaker A:There's all these missing, missing persons reports of all the people that have tried for decades.
Speaker A:No one ever finds the bodies.
Speaker A:It starts at midnight.
Speaker A:Everybody fucking dies.
Speaker A:That's what happens.
Speaker A:So at this point, Harry Spruce and Maggie run down the stairs, Right?
Speaker A:We saw a full apparition class 4.
Speaker A:Is that from Ghostbusters?
Speaker A:Like, actually Ghostbusters, not Ghost Facers.
Speaker A:Anyways, it just sounds.
Speaker B:I'm thinking about it.
Speaker B:I just watched the new Ghostbusters.
Speaker A:I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker A:I need to watch it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because I did not go see it in the theater.
Speaker B:And now you can get it on streaming.
Speaker B:And I could watch it in my house.
Speaker B:And then I cried because it was really good.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So they're running down.
Speaker B:And then Harry sees Sam and Dean and we get a.
Speaker B:Hey, aren't those the bleeping skulls from Texas?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Which is really funny.
Speaker B:Multiple levels.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And so the brothers are basically trying to get the whole team out.
Speaker A:So I. Fuck this.
Speaker A:Y' all gotta go.
Speaker A:And then they're like, no, no.
Speaker A:Check out this amazing footage we have of this ghost.
Speaker A:And they're Samdin kind of watch.
Speaker A:But they're talking.
Speaker A:They're like.
Speaker A:Basically, they're like, that's a death echo.
Speaker A:But it's real weird that there's death echo here because no one died here.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And also the death echo is something they just made up for this episode.
Speaker B:But it sounds so legit.
Speaker B:Like you're just like, yeah, like, I completely believe this is a thing.
Speaker B:And Ben Emlyn said that ghost as echo is so ubiquitous.
Speaker B:It doesn't Even require a lore base because that's like, shop top for them to call it an echo.
Speaker B:But, yeah, there's nowhere else that anybody.
Speaker B:But I feel like that's in, like, common vernacular now.
Speaker B:Like, I'm pretty sure I've been on ghost investigations.
Speaker B:Like, oh, is an echo, like.
Speaker B:Or a ghostly loop?
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Like, it's that idea of.
Speaker B:It's the death.
Speaker B:The death loop that gets played over and over.
Speaker A:I feel like I've heard that concept before, too.
Speaker A:That's really weird.
Speaker A:That's very bizarre.
Speaker A:That's either, like, insane, like, suggestion and, like, really, really fucking quality writing, or it got adopted, which is real annoying because people are stupid.
Speaker A:Or it's got some other basis in legitimacy.
Speaker B:There are a lot of, like, there are a lot of lore that shows up in the show that they created here.
Speaker B:And, like, so you go.
Speaker B:And you're like.
Speaker B:You're digging through things.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, no, did not exist.
Speaker B:Except on Supernatural.
Speaker B:But you thought it existed because it just was, like, so played off your common sense.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And I think this is one of those things where it's just like, oh, clearly go sacco.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know what that is.
Speaker B:But nobody, like, you didn't have to have it explained to you.
Speaker B:Like, it just like, oh, clearly that's what this is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:So they're discussing it and they're like, yeah, this doesn't really make sense.
Speaker A:But also, death echoes aren't a threat.
Speaker A:It's just replaying that.
Speaker A:That person's death.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:No, no, no, not replaying.
Speaker B:Dirt is death.
Speaker B:Dean says again, where they were gate.
Speaker B:And I feel like I need to have a noise every time Dean says gate.
Speaker A:Yeah, you hate that.
Speaker B:It's like Nadia talking about Jeff gigged and it was ganked.
Speaker A:So the Winchester brothers really are still like, yeah.
Speaker A:So maybe the death echo is not the scary thing, but y' all still don't want to fucking stay here dying, and we still don't know why.
Speaker A:So what do we realize now?
Speaker A:Oh, we have our first instance of a member of the team going off by them fucking selves.
Speaker A:And who is it?
Speaker A:Fucking Corbett.
Speaker A:Poor Corbett.
Speaker A:So he's alone upstairs.
Speaker B:Do you think he went upstairs by himself?
Speaker B:Because he was trying to impress Ed, obviously.
Speaker A:Obviously.
Speaker A:So he's trying to call out the spirits and wander around upstairs by himself.
Speaker A:His camera goes on the fritz and his flashlight goes out.
Speaker A:So it's turn his night vis.
Speaker A:There's something over his shoulder.
Speaker A:And I'm going to say right when the scene.
Speaker A:Because the camera he's doing, like, selfie camera on accident while he's turning his night vision on.
Speaker A:It seriously looks like a cartoon lurch over his shoulder.
Speaker A:I was like, huh.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So you told me that you watched part of his episode with your eyes covered.
Speaker B:So I want to know when we get to that point.
Speaker B:Okay, so it was not my eyes.
Speaker A:Because I didn't know it was going to look like that.
Speaker A:I preemptively cover my eyes when I can tell something scary is about to happen.
Speaker A:I cover my face and I peek through my fingers, and then I wait and see how scary it is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And unfortunately, Daggett's not that scary, but he's adorable, and I want to hang out with him.
Speaker A:Okay, that doesn't sound creepy.
Speaker A:Do you want to go to his birthday party?
Speaker B:I mean, he had cake.
Speaker A:Ew.
Speaker B:You don't know where the cake came from.
Speaker B:Like, ghost cake could taste fine.
Speaker B:We can get to that fight later.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:We're going to table the ghost cake fight later.
Speaker A:Later.
Speaker A:So Corbett yells, and they all start running upstairs, except for Sam.
Speaker A:Andina kind of hesitate at first, but all we see are shots of Corbett being dragged.
Speaker A:And the rest of the team can't find him.
Speaker A:And he's yelling.
Speaker B:My note just says, sam bleeping skulls.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:So he's.
Speaker A:He gone.
Speaker A:And now it's midnight.
Speaker A:So Sam's like, you know what?
Speaker A:Fuck this shit.
Speaker A:Let's get all y' all out of here, and then we'll come back and look for him later.
Speaker A:And they're like, ghost faces are like, fuck that.
Speaker A:No, we're gonna look.
Speaker A:And then the house locks them inside so it doesn't matter.
Speaker A:They can't leave.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I pretty much feel like this is the cat hurting.
Speaker B:Like, I have been in this cat hurting situation.
Speaker B:Like, this is, like, trying to.
Speaker A:Guys, we really need to go.
Speaker A:The bar is closing.
Speaker A:We're gonna go to jail.
Speaker B:You're all really drunk.
Speaker B:We have to get out of here.
Speaker B:No, we have to go now.
Speaker B:This is Sam's struggle.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:And I feel you, Sam.
Speaker B:Like, I. I am here for this.
Speaker A:Been there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Been there, done this.
Speaker B:I also get paid.
Speaker A:I think we've done this to each other in different groups, too.
Speaker A:We've been the herder, probably, like, Liz, you can't.
Speaker B:That guy does not look like Spike.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:Just get away from him.
Speaker B:Okay, so we're gonna go to the Morton house.
Speaker B: like, very specifically, it's: Speaker A: It is: Speaker A:Sam and Dean are arguing.
Speaker A:Sam's annoyed.
Speaker A:Dean really wants to just like, hey, we're already here.
Speaker A:Let's just do this hunt.
Speaker A:And compared this the Morton house to their Grand Canyon.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I think this is as good a time as episode as any for some lore, because.
Speaker B:We had some lore mentioned.
Speaker B:But let's talk about some ghosties.
Speaker B:Do you want to hear about some ghosties?
Speaker A:You know, I don't.
Speaker B:Do you want to hear about some Dallas ghosties?
Speaker B:Do you want to hear about some Oak Cliff ghosties?
Speaker A:God damn it.
Speaker A:I know you're going to tell me anyways.
Speaker A:I kind of do, but it's going to scare me.
Speaker A:But tell me.
Speaker B:I also, when I sent her the text last night, I can see, like, part of like the top of my lore was in there.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Jeez, he's not stupid.
Speaker B:And I was like, shit.
Speaker B:She just saw what Laura was going to be.
Speaker B:All right, so what we're going to talk about tonight is the haunting of the Millimore house.
Speaker B:All right, so do you.
Speaker B:First off, right off the bat, do you.
Speaker B:Does that name mean anything to you?
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker B:Fuck yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Diana is going to get some Dallas history, which she loves.
Speaker B:Seriously?
Speaker B:She does.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker A:I do go.
Speaker B:Okay, so we are going to Dallas, Texas.
Speaker B:I don't want to say Texas.
Speaker B:We have, like, international liver Livers listeners.
Speaker B:They're like, where's Dallas?
Speaker B:Like, everybody knows.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, there's.
Speaker A:Technically Dallas is in other states, but they just.
Speaker B:They don't.
Speaker A:Don't matter.
Speaker B:They don't matter.
Speaker B:Like, whatever.
Speaker B:All right, so we're gonna get this out of the way first.
Speaker B:So the house was.
Speaker B:First owner was William Brown Miller, and he was a very rich cotton man, and he was a slave owner.
Speaker B:And so those slaves are actually the people who built Miller Moore.
Speaker B:And this is something that should have happened a long time ago, but there's been a lot of movement recently to change the story surrounding the building from just being this nostalgic, like, oh, look at my sweet plantation house from the south, to really talking about the history of the people who live there.
Speaker B: So in: Speaker B:So their stories can be told as well.
Speaker B: Study that took to: Speaker B: like, it sounds weird to say: Speaker B:Who love Dallas and its history and have been working to get all the stories told.
Speaker B:One resident.
Speaker A:To be fair, Dallas has a really bad, bad track record of preserving its own history at all.
Speaker B:So this is to be fair.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, Dallas is.
Speaker A:It has a very south in general, where we are young cities compared to a lot of our east coast coast friends.
Speaker A:And historically, we are really bad.
Speaker A:Like, Dallas especially Fort Worth's not as bad about it, but Dallas is really bad about just like, it tear it down and put something else brand new there.
Speaker A:Like that's.
Speaker A:And then don't even talk about it.
Speaker A:Like, they have.
Speaker A:It's really, like, bad track record for that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, I think that's interesting because, like, one of, like, the things that I learned that I sent you an article.
Speaker B:Not an article.
Speaker B:I sent you somebody's thesis about it.
Speaker B:Sorry, I sent you an academic thesis because that's what I read at night for fun.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I'm a nerd.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B: really great thesis about the: Speaker B: most of Dallas burned down in: Speaker B:But there's some really good stories about this anyways.
Speaker B:So one resident, though, who's been doing, like, been trying to get the stories the millennial told was Donald Peyton, who is president of the African American Genealogy Interest Group, which is a branch of the Dallas Genealogical Society.
Speaker B: o came to Dallas as slaves in: Speaker B:His family, his ancestor, when he was freed, bought the land that was part of the plantation, which is near present day Paul Quinn College, and started his own farm with his wife Lucy.
Speaker B:And now there is a park there named after the family, the Miller.
Speaker B:The Miller Park.
Speaker B:And so just there are a number of tours in Dallas which I'm sure you know about, but that explore the African American experience and history in Dallas.
Speaker B:Like the hidden history of DFW Remembering Black Dallas.
Speaker B:And really, you don't need me talking to you about the black experience in Dallas.
Speaker B:Like, go, go on this tours.
Speaker B:Go listen to those people who probably have a much better perspective about it.
Speaker B:But anyways, I just wanted to get that out there because that's a part of the story of here and we start getting into the spooky things.
Speaker B:I also.
Speaker B:So I was reading about, like, the inhabitants of the house.
Speaker B:Like, I was very surprised that it was really only Talking about, you know, the.
Speaker B:The main family who lived there and when there were 16 other people that were on the property as well and in and out of the house.
Speaker B:So I just, I think when we're doing these kind of historical investigations into like, what this is.
Speaker B:I like paranormal investigations because we get to dive into history of things.
Speaker A:Right, so exactly.
Speaker B:I love learning who lived in a house, what, what, who worked there, what did they do.
Speaker B:And I saw almost all the research about this for the paranormal side was all about those directly related to Miller and not the 16 other people who live there and in the log cabin.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Which we'll get to in a second.
Speaker B:But just, just the thing that came into my head.
Speaker B:So now we're going to talk about, you know, dig into this and why Diana's about to really, really hate me for the story I'm gonna tell her.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So the Millermore mansion is a two story tall mansion in the Greek revival structure.
Speaker B:And think exactly what you would think about when you hear the term plantation, you know, except for the crimes against humanity.
Speaker B:After you think about those, then think about like the picture of plantation house.
Speaker B:And that's exactly what this house looks like.
Speaker B:The first owner, like I said, was William Brown Miller.
Speaker B:And he owned 7,500 acres of land.
Speaker B:Land and what we all know now know and love as Oak Cliff.
Speaker B:Yay, Oak Cliff.
Speaker B: e Millermore house started in: Speaker B:The Miller family moved into the mansion and their enslaved moved into the log cabin the family had been living in during the construction.
Speaker B:And after emancipation, the cabin was then home to several workers and also through their village.
Speaker B: into the cabin until late as: Speaker B:So because we're about to later I'll talk to like, how those structures get moved.
Speaker B:But really, like.
Speaker B: sides of this property until: Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So if you believe in ghost house, those are all a number of people who could be inhabiting this.
Speaker B:So back to the house.
Speaker B:The mansion, like I said, is that huge, like just plantation style.
Speaker B:And it had giant hallways so that air could flow to the inner rooms because they didn't have air conditioning.
Speaker B:So a whole bunch of fucking nope on that one.
Speaker B:Because U. Texas has always been hot.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like when I was reading Change that is normal.
Speaker B: g about the fire of Dallas in: Speaker B:So they went to home to go take naps because it was too hot to, like, do anything else.
Speaker B:But also, why did we stop that?
Speaker B:Why do we.
Speaker B:But still, I mean, I.
Speaker B:Granted, I give myself that nap whenever I can, but I do like naps.
Speaker B:I know, but just whatever.
Speaker A:We should all have normalized siestas again.
Speaker B:Normalized yeses.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So that.
Speaker B:That is a battle I will get behind.
Speaker B:So some of the people we know who lived inside the house, besides William, he did have three wives, and some of these were divorced.
Speaker B:But we do know his second and third wives both died there.
Speaker B:The second, his name is Minerva.
Speaker B:I love that as a name.
Speaker B:She died from illness.
Speaker B:I'm not sure what illness that was.
Speaker B:Was.
Speaker B:And his third wife, Emma, is thought to have died in childbirth.
Speaker B:And also that the child died as well.
Speaker B:That'll get into our spookiness.
Speaker B:But fun fact.
Speaker B:This was Emma's second husband.
Speaker B:Her first husband was Madison Moultrie Miller.
Speaker B:So another Miller that was not related to the second Miller, but she was just like.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:She was like, I don't want to change my last name.
Speaker B:Like, this is going to be, like, a problem.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:The first one was a former Alabama plantation overseer.
Speaker B:So, yeah, so that was that.
Speaker B:That was him.
Speaker B:He moved to Texas to become a ranger and ended up founding the city of Lancaster.
Speaker B:Okay, so.
Speaker A:But this is just down the road, too.
Speaker B:It is, yeah.
Speaker B:So some interesting things about that.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:So after everybody died or moved out, the house was just left to disintegrate.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And I was trying to.
Speaker B:Obviously, I have a week to research this stuff.
Speaker B:I didn't deep dive into it, but I couldn't find any.
Speaker A:Any.
Speaker B:Any other owners besides the Millers that were listed and, like, available.
Speaker B:Like, I was not going to.
Speaker B:Like, I'm going to go to property, whatever, wherever you go, to research deeds.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker B:You would think if other people live there, that would have been on historical society stuff or in newspapers, and I didn't see it.
Speaker B:So basically, the house was just left to disintegrate, and the Dallas Heritage Society decided to preserve it.
Speaker B: got moved to Old City park in: Speaker B:So the Dallas Heritage Village has the millennial mansion.
Speaker B:It has the log cabin we'll talk about, and then it has about 20 other structures from Its time.
Speaker B:So you can go and you can take tours and go into all these different things.
Speaker B: de to be exactly as it was in: Speaker B:Yay.
Speaker A:Well, so that means I stayed with the structure, not with the land.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So that's a totally interesting thing.
Speaker B:Like, so are these the ghosts from the land that were already where they got moved to, or did they come with the house?
Speaker B:Oh, so many questions.
Speaker A:Duh.
Speaker B:Blows a paranormal person's mind.
Speaker B:All right, so everybody, like visitors, volunteers, and staff, they have all seen shit in the this house.
Speaker B:The most well known one is apparitions of a woman near the master bedroom.
Speaker B:And people say that when you're near that bedroom and the nursery, you can just feel like you're being watched.
Speaker B:They also have a lot of temperature fluxes, and there are cold spots even in the summer because they never put AC in.
Speaker B:So we are never, ever going to this in the summer, ever, ever.
Speaker B:Like, yeah.
Speaker B:So I'm like, hey, what do you want to do for your birthday?
Speaker B:Like, not go there.
Speaker B:Yeah, in a sense.
Speaker A:So FYI, they are doing ghost tours every Thursday at Dallas Heritage Village.
Speaker B:That is awesome.
Speaker B:And I know you won't go if I'm not there, so.
Speaker B:So they have done lots of paranormal investigations at this house, including ghost hunters, which is the one that was mainly being made fun of during this show.
Speaker B:So I thought that was great.
Speaker B:I couldn't find it online because I had other shit to do, so.
Speaker B:But here are the most two awful stories about want this place.
Speaker B:All right, you ready?
Speaker B:Are you all right?
Speaker B:Is your wine filled?
Speaker B:Because you need it.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:That's partially filled.
Speaker B:And it's so the first one.
Speaker B:I'm just.
Speaker B:We're gonna call the crib.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:So give me heebie jeebies already, okay?
Speaker B:According to a long time tour guide, she had just finished the tour and was about to go home when she heard shrieks coming from the upstairs.
Speaker B:I feel like she is a wise woman because she did not go upstairs alone.
Speaker B:Instead, she grabbed a large male tour guide and was like, bitch, you're coming with me.
Speaker B:And they went upstairs together.
Speaker B:The closer they got to the top of the stairs, the louder the crying got.
Speaker B:They got to the nursery and he was like, you open the door, open the door.
Speaker B:So she opened the door, door, and the crying stop.
Speaker B:And they went.
Speaker B:And they peaked in the crib and it was empty because that wasn't it.
Speaker B:So they go back Downstairs.
Speaker B:And as they're going downstairs, though, the crying starts again.
Speaker B:And then they starting hearing dragging sounds.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker B:Like the sound someone would make when they were dragging furniture across the floor.
Speaker B:They ran back upstairs.
Speaker B:They ran into the nursery, and the crib was gone.
Speaker B:But there were tracks in the floor like something had been dragged.
Speaker B:And they followed those tracks to the master bedroom.
Speaker B:And there was the crib next to the bed.
Speaker A:Buck that.
Speaker B:Then the guy that she brought up with her was going to move the crib.
Speaker B:And she, like, apparently this is a very wise woman, said, fuck you, do not move this crib.
Speaker B:This crib lives here now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the rest, tour guides have said, yes, this crib lives here now.
Speaker B:And that is where the crib stays in the master bedroom.
Speaker B:They went back downstairs and the cry.
Speaker B:Did not hear the crying again.
Speaker B:So that's the first reason.
Speaker B:All right, the second reason.
Speaker B:You hate me.
Speaker B:We're gonna call this one the security Guard.
Speaker B:Okay, so the second story, there's a security guard, and he's hanging around outside like they do.
Speaker B:And then he hears secure in things.
Speaker B:He's secure in things.
Speaker B:He's doing a secure and guarding things, whatever that is.
Speaker B:And he heard something that sounded like it was getting thrown against the window.
Speaker B:He's like, oh, that's the master bedroom.
Speaker B:So he's like, I'm gonna go and see what it is.
Speaker B:And he goes to investigate.
Speaker B:And there in the grass is a large black crow.
Speaker B:And it's alive, but it's conked out.
Speaker B:Then a second crow flies into the window.
Speaker B:Then another and another and another.
Speaker B:One would say a murder of crows waiting for it.
Speaker B:So then they just started flying around the guard and attacking him.
Speaker B:And they were after a sweet, sweet eye juice.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I don't know if they were.
Speaker B:I just had to say that because my favorite Simpsons line.
Speaker B:So I always want to get in the sweet, sweet eye juice.
Speaker B:The best episode ever.
Speaker A:No, I know.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So then they all the crows all land around him, and they start flapping around him and the cawing.
Speaker B:And then he looks up into the window of the master bedroom, and there is a pale white face.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:No, ma'.
Speaker A:Am.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:This guy has also receding receiving reported seeing lights move back and forth between the master bedroom and the nursery.
Speaker B:He described them as a pale, glowing green that if he ever went upstairs to investigate, then they.
Speaker B:They would just disappear.
Speaker B:Which is.
Speaker B:I would be, like, so annoyed.
Speaker B:I'd be like.
Speaker B:Like, no, I'm not going upstairs.
Speaker B:I went upstairs for you.
Speaker B:Stairs.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that is that's the story of the Villamar mansion.
Speaker B:I try to keep it short because I know we had a lot of stuff to talk about tonight, but.
Speaker B:So we can go there if you want.
Speaker B:We can go during the day.
Speaker B:We can't go there at night unless I'm there on a Thursday, and I'm not gonna be there on a Thursday.
Speaker B:Thursday.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:They only do the spooky tears on Thursday.
Speaker A:I'm not doing that unless you're there with me.
Speaker B:So, yeah, the daytime tour would probably be very interesting.
Speaker A:Go check it out during the day.
Speaker A:I've never actually been to Dallas Heritage Village.
Speaker A:I know where it is.
Speaker A:It's just another side of the highway from the farmer's market, pretty much.
Speaker B:Oh, we should go with.
Speaker B:And I'll have my oculus running and my emf and we'll see, like, what.
Speaker B:What pops up and what these ghosts decide to call me.
Speaker B:So I've been called a bitch.
Speaker B:Somebody has been called a threat.
Speaker B:Otherwise, me.
Speaker B:Somebody else.
Speaker B:So we can see what.
Speaker A:See what these ghosts call you and a geek.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:So back to our other adventure.
Speaker B:Now that Diana hates me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Sam's mad that Dean basically has two months left of on earth before he dies and goes to hell, but that they're going to die tonight night dealing with this stupid fucking house with these ghost facers.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:So now they're all stuck in the house.
Speaker A:Dean's like.
Speaker A:Dean calls it like a supernatural lockdown by whatever took Corbett, which was not a death echo.
Speaker A:It was a bad mother who wants us scared.
Speaker A:Is that a good summary slash?
Speaker B:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker A:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker A:So we see that while they're in this room, the camera starts going on.
Speaker A:All the cameras and all the electronic equipment starts going on.
Speaker A:The FR starts again, and the Emmy F readers going off.
Speaker A:And brothers are like, hey, y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:These all stay fucking close.
Speaker A:And a man appears in front of them, but he doesn't seem to see them.
Speaker A:Is backs them.
Speaker A:But it's a different.
Speaker B:You missed something.
Speaker B:You missed the flash where Harry and Maggie were holding hands.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker A:Yeah, I did see that.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker B:Yeah, so just because I thought it was just a super cute moment and because they haven't talked about it before, now we're like, we knew that's Ed's adopted sister.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker A:Then.
Speaker A:And Harry and Maggie have a thing.
Speaker A:So this man appears, and it's a different guy.
Speaker A:Not the guy they saw upstairs get shot.
Speaker A:And Sam and Dean are like, the fuck this?
Speaker B:A different death echo.
Speaker A:Because this is fucking Weird now, because having multiple in one location, especially when they didn't think that anybody had died there.
Speaker A:So Dean's trying to, like, yell at him and, like, buddy, wake up and, like, try to, like, shake him out of it.
Speaker A:Because apparently you can shock the spirit out of the loop sometimes.
Speaker A:But the ghost just kind of looks at him, and then it turns around and then there's a bright light coming towards him.
Speaker A:He gets hit by a train, and his body goes flying.
Speaker A:It's kind of funny.
Speaker B:It was kind of funny.
Speaker B:And I think the thing that also gets noted for later is that echoes can get knocked out of it if, like, there's a human connection.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But they have to connect to their humanity is the biggest thing.
Speaker B:And Dean cannot connect to train face, Sir.
Speaker B:Train.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean that.
Speaker A:I think Dean has challenges connecting in general.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker B:Fair.
Speaker B:Fair.
Speaker A:But there we go.
Speaker A:So Sam and Dean are still discussing.
Speaker A:They're, like, off the side of this conversation again.
Speaker A:They're like, there's no records of someone dying by being shot or being hit by a train or being a train here.
Speaker A:So this is.
Speaker A:Where the fuck are these death echoes coming from?
Speaker A:If these people didn't live here or die here, this makes no sense.
Speaker A:So they kind of.
Speaker A:They decide, all right, we got to search this house and try to solve some mysteries.
Speaker A:And they figure out the previous.
Speaker A:The most recent owner of the home is Freeman.
Speaker A:Freeman Daggett.
Speaker A:Worked at the hospital as a janitor for a long time, and he's been dead for quite a while, too.
Speaker A:They find, like, a huge supply of MREs.
Speaker A:He's got this locked cabinet, and they're.
Speaker A:They, you know, know, trying to open it up.
Speaker A:And while they're doing that, Sam finds a Survival Under Atomic Attack pamphlet.
Speaker A:My comment was, surprise.
Speaker A:You don't.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:Well, that's why Sam called him an optimist.
Speaker B:Also, like, on the walls, there is a wolf and a deer head.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But the wolf, I was like, loud wolf, lone wolf.
Speaker B:But the deer head is.
Speaker B:What if we see that in many, it is the same deer head that.
Speaker A:Oh, is it they use a lot?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know if he has a name like my deers are.
Speaker B:My deers are all named Fred.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But right now, like, the only deer head I have is, like, sitting in my.
Speaker B:My closet because I don't want to hang it.
Speaker B:Like, this doesn't fit my decor.
Speaker B:Maybe if I made him, like, a party hat and things then.
Speaker B:Or Tierra Tara and a boa.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Perhaps all Right.
Speaker B:So we've got.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The good news is it's like a lockbox inside of a small safe.
Speaker A:And it's got a bunch of miscellaneous papers and booklets there as well, including taxidermy.
Speaker A:Like, home taxidermy instructions.
Speaker A:But Dean finds three toe tags, one guy who died of a gunshot wound, one who died of a train accident, and one suicide.
Speaker B:So we haven't seen the suicide yet, have we?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:That seems ominous.
Speaker B:But Sam does have the appropriate response, which is.
Speaker A:Is ew.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And the.
Speaker B:The Ghost Facers don't understand why Sam's like.
Speaker B:And Dean finally explains to them that Daggett brought the remains home from the morgue.
Speaker B:Yeah, to play.
Speaker A:To play.
Speaker B:And then Harry and Ed both.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then we realized that Maggie wandered off by herself.
Speaker B:Damn it, Maggie.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:The Maggie.
Speaker A:People.
Speaker A:People.
Speaker A:But she's like, I've got to go find Corbett.
Speaker A:Well, you dumb.
Speaker A:This is how something bad happens.
Speaker A:That's what I have to say.
Speaker A:Anyways, so while she's wandering off and she's by a mirror, her camera goes on the fritz.
Speaker A:So I almost throw up, but then it was just Dean behind her.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And a big stuff bird.
Speaker A:Yeah, this.
Speaker A:That's the kind of scene where I'm covering my eyes, I see the camera go on the fritz, and I cover my face.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So there's a huge softbird that she saw, too.
Speaker B:That may have been when you were covering in your eyes.
Speaker A:Probably so.
Speaker A:And then they get another weird EMF reading.
Speaker A:And anyway, so Dean yells, you know, for them, and there's like kind of like a weird surge.
Speaker A:And I mean, like.
Speaker A:So at this point, Dean, Sam, Maggie, all of them are up there, but they're all standing there.
Speaker A:And there's like this EMF reading.
Speaker A:There's a surge.
Speaker A:Nobody move.
Speaker A:And then Sam disappears and his flashlight falls to the floor.
Speaker B:What the fuck?
Speaker B:Sam's gone.
Speaker B:How is Sam gone?
Speaker B:He's just fucking gone.
Speaker A:Just fucking gone.
Speaker A:Just fucking gone.
Speaker A:I was very upset.
Speaker A:I'm like, this is bullshit.
Speaker A:Because quite frankly, Corbett was dragged.
Speaker A:How the fuck did Sam just go poof?
Speaker B:Yeah, a big giant monk.
Speaker B:That Sam is like.
Speaker B:I mean, granted, like, I don't know.
Speaker B:We did.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Do we ever actually see Sam and Daggett standing side by side?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:And so Padalecki is what, 6 4?
Speaker B:And Daggett, he must be bigger than 6 4.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I know he's tall.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Have to work on that.
Speaker A:Have to work on that.
Speaker B:Week later.
Speaker B:Seasons we can probably figure that out.
Speaker B:Okay, so where are we?
Speaker B:All right, so Sam's disappeared.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:John DeSantis is six.
Speaker A:Nine.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker A:Six, nine.
Speaker B:Okay, so he's.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's taller than six four, but still that's five inches.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's a real tall motherfucker.
Speaker A:Anyways, so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so now they're like, well, fuck.
Speaker A:Dean's real upset now because now they've really got to find Sam and Corbett because obviously they'll be together.
Speaker A:So they're all going to go searching together.
Speaker A:Maggie and Harry of course, split off because they're making out by themselves in spruce video as them.
Speaker A:Because why not?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then unfortunately Ed sees this.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he goes after Harry for banging his sister.
Speaker B:And then he is like, did you bang my sister?
Speaker B:And then Harry is like, no, of course not.
Speaker B:Which makes me think that Harry just.
Speaker B:And they have not fucked.
Speaker B:They have just been making out because he's Harry.
Speaker A:Not yet.
Speaker B:Yeah, but so just starts fighting and then Dean breaks up them up and.
Speaker A:It's like an awful slap fight.
Speaker A:It's terrible.
Speaker B:Hilarious.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So here.
Speaker A:Mine's in that we're already down two people.
Speaker A:So let's figure this out.
Speaker A:So they.
Speaker A:We get.
Speaker A:Our next scene that we see here is just a night vision view of a cake.
Speaker A:And the song It's My Party and I'll Cry if I Want to is playing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we're at a birthday party.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's not a good birthday party.
Speaker A:No, there's cake.
Speaker A:Old.
Speaker A:Old dust.
Speaker B:The cake isn't moldy.
Speaker A:Like it's not dusty.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:There is dust on it, you know, like what kind of icing?
Speaker B:Like you can just wipe the dust off.
Speaker B:Like you just get like a micro towel.
Speaker A: Isn't it from: Speaker A: Girls from: Speaker B: the cake can't survive since: Speaker B:Like it would have like been moldy.
Speaker B:Like so.
Speaker A:So it's ghost cake.
Speaker B:I'm sure it's fine.
Speaker B:I'm sure the cake is fine.
Speaker A:Like I really like cake and this is very upsetting to me that you want to eat.
Speaker B:So like we know the ingredients they had in the 60s were just like all pure like front like uranium and shit.
Speaker B:So I'm sure it's completely edible still.
Speaker B:You may grow a tail, but so what?
Speaker B:The vaccines.
Speaker B:I may grow it Anyways.
Speaker A:So my notes say.
Speaker A:Oh shit.
Speaker A:Corbett and Sam are tied up at some Freaky fake party.
Speaker A:That's my notes.
Speaker B:It's not a fake party.
Speaker B:It's a real party.
Speaker B:And Daggett will cry if he wants to.
Speaker A:Sam is trying to keep Corbett away.
Speaker A:Awake.
Speaker A:Sorbet.
Speaker A:Sam's trying to keep Corbett awake.
Speaker A:And you can kind of see, like, that there's all these, like, corpse hands, like, sitting at this table for this party.
Speaker A:And as Sam's trying to keep Corbett awake, you hear a voice say, don't listen to him.
Speaker A:And then he grabs a long, pokey thing off the table and stands behind Corbett and shoves this thing into Corbett's brain hole, I guess.
Speaker A:And Corbett, perfect dad.
Speaker B:Yeah, so he says, like, it stops hurting, so don't worry.
Speaker B:And you saw brain?
Speaker B:I thought it was throat.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:I couldn't tell.
Speaker A:All I know is he was stabbing somehow.
Speaker A:Head and his throat.
Speaker A:I thought he stabbed him multiple times.
Speaker B:When he's reliving his death scene, it looks like it's all out of his throat.
Speaker B:But anyways, it's a horrible way.
Speaker A:I wouldn't be very fast.
Speaker A:That'd be very slow and very upsetting.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm thinking you would die pretty instantaneously if someone shoved a knife through your throat.
Speaker A:I don't think so.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Anyway, so, like, if you know, don't ever talk to us again.
Speaker B:Like we don't want to know.
Speaker B:Like we don't want to know.
Speaker B:You keep that shit to yourself and go get some professional help.
Speaker B:Maybe turn yourself into jail.
Speaker A:Okay, so anyways, so we get a nice clear shot of good old Daggett at this point, too.
Speaker A:And then right about now is when Dean has figured out that there must be a fucking bunker because this guy was obsessed with Cold war horseshit.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Because he was an amateur taxidermist.
Speaker B:He liked to slow dance with cab cadavers, and all he ate were C rations.
Speaker B:Okay, so as a military woman, what the is a C ration.
Speaker A:So C ration.
Speaker A:So C ration was the predecessor to the mre.
Speaker A:MRE is what we call meals.
Speaker A:Meals ready to eat.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Military has been using for the past 20 plus years.
Speaker A:Now, the C ration is what that was being used in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and usually came in a metal container as opposed to the plastic that you see today.
Speaker B:That was so, like, honestly, she had no preparation for that question.
Speaker B:That was the most like, boom, this is my knowledge, I'm dropping on you, bitch moment.
Speaker A:Like, well, sometimes I show up unprepared and I'm really excited when I can, like, pull something out of my ass that I have no answer.
Speaker A:I know the answer to this question.
Speaker A:I know it.
Speaker B:All right, so they have the C rations.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I do.
Speaker A:Like, around.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then we, as we cut back and forth again to the scene in the basement, which is.
Speaker A:Or the bunker, whatever, and the fucking Daggett spirit thing walks around to Sam and puts a party hat on him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he tells him, like, he's doing it.
Speaker B:And he was like, don't worry, it won't hurt that much.
Speaker B:And you're expecting Sam to get stabbed through the throat or the head or whatever.
Speaker B:And he just gets like.
Speaker B:And honestly, I tried taking a picture of my tv.
Speaker B:I'll have to get.
Speaker B:Well, we will get this.
Speaker B:We will get the pictures from other ways.
Speaker B:I was like, I have to send this picture to Diana.
Speaker B:But it's so fuzzy, like on my tv.
Speaker B:Because it's so grainy because how they were filming it.
Speaker B:But it reminds me of the Colin Robinson pictures from what we do in the shadows where he has the birthday party hat on his head.
Speaker B:And now I want both of them side by side.
Speaker B:I have a goal.
Speaker A:I'll have to work on that.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:So Dean makes a funny reference also to Russkies at this point.
Speaker B:And I was like, why don't we.
Speaker B:Why don't we use the term Ruskies anymore?
Speaker A:I mean, like, I don't know.
Speaker A:Russia's still sketchy as.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:It's not Russian fault that Putin is creepy and sketchy.
Speaker B:It's not like I don't have to talk about Russians, but I did.
Speaker B:We never call them Ruskies anymore.
Speaker B:And I'm like, I think we should bring it back.
Speaker A:Are you.
Speaker A:I mean, are we allowed.
Speaker A:Is that a slur?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't think it is.
Speaker B:Do we care about.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't care.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Anyway, so Dean's on the mission looking for this bomb.
Speaker A:This bomb shelter says bunker, so of course he goes in the fucking basement.
Speaker A:At least he has Spruce with him because.
Speaker A:Because fucking Christ.
Speaker A:That the door slams up behind him and is, of course, locked immediately.
Speaker A:Intentionally separating the group.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But now we have until they're not alone at least, right?
Speaker A:No, I know, but you know what?
Speaker A:My feeling about this is just like.
Speaker B:I know, but.
Speaker B:So downstairs we're gonna have Dean and Spruce.
Speaker B:And then upstairs we'll have Ed, Harry and Maggie.
Speaker B:Maggie, right.
Speaker B:Is that where we're at now?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Downstairs is Dean and Spruce.
Speaker A:Yeah, upstairs.
Speaker A:Upstairs.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Dean tells Ed through the door, like, go to my duffel.
Speaker A:Get the salt.
Speaker A:Make a circle, get inside of it, period.
Speaker A:Don't step out.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker A:So they do.
Speaker A:And then they're saying, oh, you missed that whole part.
Speaker B:Okay, so there's.
Speaker B:So Dean says, there's some salt in my duffel.
Speaker B:Make a circle and get inside.
Speaker B:And then Ed says, inside.
Speaker B:And then Harry says.
Speaker B:Says that stupid.
Speaker B:And then Ed says, inside your duffel bag.
Speaker B:And then Dean says, in the salt, you idiots.
Speaker A:I totally.
Speaker A:That totally, like, bypassed me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But, yeah, that's why I was like, oh, it was such a good thing.
Speaker B:Because they're like, yeah, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but it's hilarious.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker A:But they get inside, and then things go on the fritz again.
Speaker B:That's fritzing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:So Dean's walking around downstairs with a sawed off.
Speaker B:And in the upstairs are all.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's not good.
Speaker A:Upstairs is not good.
Speaker B:Yeah, upstairs in a very close salt circle.
Speaker B:And I really like the way because when you're watching it, everything is being done from Maggie's perspective, which I think.
Speaker A:We glossed over earlier, mainly at this point, like.
Speaker A:Well, basically from about the point Corbett's gone on, everything has been from the perspective of Maggie or Spruce.
Speaker A:They are the two that consistently have cameras throughout this.
Speaker A:We have.
Speaker A:Corbett has one as well, but his.
Speaker B:Kind of his to his head.
Speaker B:So Dean had asked her earlier if it made her feel better if she was filming, like, watching things through the camera.
Speaker B:And then she took the camera down.
Speaker B:She was like, oh, fuck.
Speaker B:Yeah, it does.
Speaker B:And, like, you know, like, shoved it back.
Speaker B:Back up.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But I think so from a production standpoint.
Speaker B:So downstairs is Dean is Spruce's camera.
Speaker B:Upstairs is Maggie's camera.
Speaker B:And then, like you said, downstairs is the footage they had to go down and take off of Corbett's head.
Speaker B:Because you think about that's where Corbett's camera was.
Speaker B:So the footage is getting played of the basement.
Speaker B:Came off of Corbett's head.
Speaker A:Yeah, Corbett's deadhead.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So as Ed, Harry, and Maggie are awkwardly standing in this very small salt circle, Maggie's camera starts fritzing out.
Speaker A:And all the other equipment, they're in that in their control room.
Speaker A:So it's all kind of fritzing out.
Speaker A:And all of a sudden, Corbett is standing there.
Speaker A:There in the room.
Speaker A:Not inside the circle, obviously, but in the room, and he's all bloodied up and just whimpering, and it's very upsetting.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker B:I think that's the most upsetting portion of this episode.
Speaker A:I would absolutely agree.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Because now they're basically watching their friend suffer his own death loop.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Over and over and over again.
Speaker B:And also, like, you're looking for your friend, and now you, like, you thought.
Speaker A:You still had a chance to find him.
Speaker A:You didn't know, like, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:And now you know he's dead, and you're just gonna watch him live his own death over and over again.
Speaker A:Because that's not traumatizing for everybody involved, including the spirit.
Speaker B:And downstairs, though, we're going to get something that's going to bring us back into, like, I think this is the only time in this episode beyond the.
Speaker B:That you have two months left and we're looking for your Grand Canyon that we get the acknowledgement of what's going on in the storyline in the season.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because Spruce asks Dean.
Speaker A:Dean Spruce heard what Sam had said to Dean about two months left, but Dean won't really answer.
Speaker A:And he's like, look, I'm not going to wind.
Speaker A:Because, like, Spruce trying to guess, like, cancer, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, I'm not going to wind to a reality show.
Speaker A:I'm going to do my fucking job.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:I think you have to do this appropriately with the skull bleeps.
Speaker B:So Dean says, yeah, it's complicated.
Speaker B:A while ago, Sam, no, no, I'm not going to whine about my bleeping skull problems.
Speaker B:Is a bleep, bleeping skulls reality show.
Speaker B:I'm going to do my bleeping skulls job.
Speaker B:And then Spruce ass is a cancer.
Speaker B:Which I think is also just really cute of just like, wood Dean.
Speaker B:Like, we've seen both Dean and Sam in this episode kind of embrace it on the reality show.
Speaker B:Like, so Sam is, like, walking through and be like, all right, I'm gonna tell you what a ghost echo is like, you know, and just talking directly to the camera because being like, oh, for those viewers at home, this is what a second was.
Speaker B:And now we have Dean being like, I'm gonna have my own confessional.
Speaker B:And then utilities.
Speaker A:No, fuck that.
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker B:I don't do that.
Speaker A:So he's like, they're talking about, like, how.
Speaker B:Or Sam Daggett's telling.
Speaker A:Sam is telling Sam how he's been waiting for more guests.
Speaker A:And then on the other side of the bunker, Dean hears the music and he finds the door to the fucking bunker.
Speaker A:And right when the spirit's about to kill fucking Sam, Dean opens the door and blasts him with a motherfucking salt shotgun shell.
Speaker B:So also, when Dean kicks in the door, he will.
Speaker B:No, he pushes.
Speaker B:He didn't kick.
Speaker B:He pushes a cabinet away from the wall.
Speaker B:And Spruce is like, wow, you're strong.
Speaker B:And then Dean just flicks him off, and they pixelate like, him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Dean gets.
Speaker A:You see.
Speaker A:You see that?
Speaker A:Corbett's dead.
Speaker A:Now it's his body.
Speaker A:But you see him dead, and Dean's able to free Sam.
Speaker A:But you actually get, like, a shot of this table at this point.
Speaker A:And y', all, this is real fucking creepy.
Speaker A:Shit's real.
Speaker A:Real weird.
Speaker A:This guy is not right.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I'm not eating his motherfucking cake.
Speaker A:I don't care.
Speaker B:So his cake, like, so the cake is.
Speaker B:I still think it's a ghost cake.
Speaker B:The cake is, like, from 60 years ago.
Speaker A:Now, if it's a ghost cake, does that mean, like, the calories don't count?
Speaker A:Because at that point, we can have a different conversation about ghost cake.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, so clearly.
Speaker B:I mean, like, let's.
Speaker B:Let's dig into this problem.
Speaker B:All right, so we have rather dig.
Speaker A:Into a piece of cake.
Speaker B:Yeah, I would like to dig into a piece of cake.
Speaker B:But do we want to take it to this cake?
Speaker B:That is the question.
Speaker B:Is this cake?
Speaker B:Like, so is this cake part of the manifestation?
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Because he's not baking a cake.
Speaker B:Like, Daggett did not go to the bakery.
Speaker B:Like, this is part of the manifestation of the past 60 years or however long, like, the party has been going down there.
Speaker B:So does ghost cake taste like it was made that day, or does it taste like 60 years later?
Speaker A:Because that would be.
Speaker A:That would be infinite cake, right?
Speaker A:Does it have calories?
Speaker B:I don't give a.
Speaker B:If cake has calories, I'm gonna eat it anyways.
Speaker A:But it'd be really nice.
Speaker A:Be really, like.
Speaker B:I think would like what it'd be like.
Speaker B:Does it have sugar?
Speaker B:And so can I drink wine?
Speaker B:Well, no.
Speaker B:Can I drink wine and eat the cake and not worry about, like, getting up?
Speaker A:I do care about that.
Speaker B:I do care.
Speaker B:You do?
Speaker A:I really like cake, and I really like wine and a cake at both the same time because it makes me feel like shit.
Speaker A:It's stupid.
Speaker B:So if it doesn't have the sugar, then you could have ghost cake and drink wine, and you could drink ghost wine.
Speaker B:So, like, ghostwrite, like, probably wouldn't give.
Speaker A:You a hangover, right?
Speaker A:I mean, better not.
Speaker A:That'd be just extra, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we see, though this.
Speaker A:It's Basically, you know, a long table and y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker A:I mean, obviously if you're listening, you watch the show.
Speaker A:So the table with the birthday cake and poor Sam and his awful birthday hat before Dean freeze him.
Speaker A:And you see three human male bodies, fully taxidermied.
Speaker A:Poorly not.
Speaker A:Well, these are creepy.
Speaker A:Creepy faces, creepy fucking hands, creepy home taxidermy people sitting at this table.
Speaker B:So my other question is, are these ghosts or are they the actual taxidermy corpses?
Speaker A:Oh, I think the actual corpses.
Speaker A:I think that's what I found.
Speaker B:So why is the cake.
Speaker B:Why is the cake not real?
Speaker A:I think the cake is fucking old.
Speaker A:I think the bunker was sealed up until then.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Having the same cake this is always cares about.
Speaker B:It's like I just care about the cake, but.
Speaker B:But I mean.
Speaker A:But ghost cake.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So we've got ghost Daggett, but the three corpses are legit corpses.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And we.
Speaker A:And we find there's three taxidermy corpses, which are the three original toe tags.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So we've got the shot, the gunshot victim, the train guy, and a suicide, which we never really see the story of.
Speaker A:But then here's my question.
Speaker A:So Corbett down.
Speaker A:Corbett gets killed down there.
Speaker A:We know know that Sam was about to get killed and gets dragged out.
Speaker A:Okay, but what happened to all these other people that supposedly disappeared there over the years?
Speaker A:I mean, like, Ghost Daggett didn't ghost taxidermy their asses.
Speaker B:Why are they in the party?
Speaker A:Why is there a pile of bones in the corner?
Speaker A:Like, I don't know.
Speaker A:We didn't see any of that.
Speaker A:So what happened to all the people that supposedly disappeared?
Speaker B:Good point.
Speaker B:They probably just didn't want a cake.
Speaker B:And they were like.
Speaker B:They were like, I don't want to eat your ghost cake.
Speaker B:And he was like, you.
Speaker B:You go sitting that up the room.
Speaker B:So now they're like, they don't even get the party.
Speaker B:They don't get the hats.
Speaker B:They don't get the cake.
Speaker B:They're just stuck in another room.
Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker B:All right, so we've got.
Speaker B:Where are we at?
Speaker A:All right, so we got deck and Ed's rocking.
Speaker A:Ed's upstairs.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, Ed's back upstairs.
Speaker A:We've got Ed rocking back and forth on the floor.
Speaker A:And this is where they've pretty much figured out that Corbett is death echo and he's reliving his murder.
Speaker A:And, um, Harry and Maggie and Ed are all really upset about this.
Speaker A:So we cut back down to the basement, though, where Spruce is asking Sam what this guy's Deals was.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, he was lonely, like Norman Bates stuff.
Speaker A:Your mother lonely?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Dean answers that well, he's never heard of real doll, which I.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I had to do a shout out.
Speaker B:Kelly, if you're listening, Bearcat.
Speaker B:So there was the most amazing documentary.
Speaker B:I mean, it was documentary, like, whatever.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like HBO used to have these weird sex documentaries.
Speaker B:And they had one on Real Doll.
Speaker B:And there was a guy named Bearcat.
Speaker B:And he had love with his life was his real doll.
Speaker B:So go look that up.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:We all have a real doll.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So Daggett was a normal bait stuff.
Speaker B:Your mother kind of lonely.
Speaker B:And I guess that's why he lifted the bodies from the morgue.
Speaker B:He threw himself a birthday party.
Speaker B:Except they were the only ones you become.
Speaker B:Anyway, so I don't think I'd go.
Speaker A:To a party if I knew a guy had a bunch of taxidermy corpses that there pretty.
Speaker B:Well,.
Speaker A:Liz is like, I might go.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Might have to go.
Speaker B:Is that explicitly on the invite?
Speaker B:Like, come see.
Speaker B:Because, like, are you excited?
Speaker A:No, it's not a feature.
Speaker A:It's like, these are the other guests.
Speaker B:It's not a feature.
Speaker B:It's a bug.
Speaker B:But if it's, you know, if it's like, hey, come to my house and see my taxidermy squirrels playing poker.
Speaker A:No, I think this is more like coming to my party.
Speaker A:But no one else is coming except for the dead bodies I taxidermied.
Speaker B:But does he tell you that the dead bodies are going to be there?
Speaker B:Because I could see me see feeling very sorry for Daggett and being like, no one's going to come to his party.
Speaker B:I'll go be nice and go to dinner.
Speaker B:And also, like, I have nothing else to do, I guess.
Speaker A:Call me in 10 minutes so I can leave early.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:If I don't, like, if you don't hear from me for an hour, this is the house that I went to.
Speaker B:Like, I dropped my pen.
Speaker B:Come dick me up from the back.
Speaker B:But anyway, so this is where, like, Sam kind of gives, like the.
Speaker B:This is what happened.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So he threw himself a birthday party.
Speaker B:They're the only ones who would come.
Speaker B:And I just.
Speaker B:I was saying.
Speaker B:This is a very weird way of saying it.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:It's not like they were the only ones who become like, they're the only ones.
Speaker B:It's a very weird situation.
Speaker A:He kidnapped.
Speaker A:He stole dead bodies from the moor, taxidermied them, and then sent out birthday invitations and then was bummed that no one wanted to hang out with them because he was the dude that would have.
Speaker A:That they could have guessed would have done shit like this.
Speaker B:I want to see these invitations, like, because clearly, this is pre.
Speaker B:Evite, right?
Speaker B:So, like, did he, like, go to a station?
Speaker A:Was it word of mouth?
Speaker A:Was it, like, did he put a.
Speaker B:Fire up in the breaker involved?
Speaker B:You know, I'm just like, did he go to Kinko's and, like, run off a flyer to my birthday?
Speaker B:Did he go to a mimeograph machine and, like, like, oh, God, they have that typewriter.
Speaker A:Typewriter, typewriter.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:It's got a mimeograph, like, mindset.
Speaker B:But anyway, so Sam says, so he sealed them in at the bomb shelter and went upstairs and OD'd on horse tricks, which is also, like, how many horse tranquilizers it take to kill that dude?
Speaker A:Like, oh, he was big.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Your point?
Speaker B:That dude probably took, like.
Speaker B:I don't he get.
Speaker B:Found a rave.
Speaker B:The amount of ketamine it would take to bring that to dad.
Speaker A:I was about to make a like.
Speaker A:Oh, I mean, like, ketamine.
Speaker B:But it's also kind of sad because.
Speaker A:He just wants people to come to party.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Like, it was sad.
Speaker A:It would have been sad up to a point.
Speaker A:And he was that up to the point that he was stealing dead bodies.
Speaker A:That's kind of where it stops being said.
Speaker B:I mean, technically, he stole the bodies before he invited them to the party.
Speaker A:Party when he stole the bodies.
Speaker A:Is that being sad?
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker A:So apparently.
Speaker A:And apparently he told Sam all of this.
Speaker A:So there's a dialogue that we did not see, which I kind of feel like if that supposedly occurred, it probably was recorded on Corbett's camera.
Speaker A:And that may have been a more interesting way to have shared that information with us.
Speaker B:Which is creepier.
Speaker A:Oh, it's way creepier.
Speaker A:But at the same time, it would have been a brilliant.
Speaker B:It's a better dramatic device of his, Sam, to be like.
Speaker B:He told me.
Speaker B:All right, so we're gonna go back up to our assault party.
Speaker B:And Harry is just singing the Ghostfacer theme song to himself.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But Ed suddenly remembers what Dean tried to do with the train guy, and he's like, I've got to get Corbett the loop.
Speaker A:I owe it to him.
Speaker A:So he's about to step out of the fucking salt, and I'm like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:It's a very.
Speaker A:This is a very upsetting and traumatic scene.
Speaker A:And Corbett looks super scared, and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Ed's trying to connect with him and free him from the loop, but is just not really connecting with him yet.
Speaker A:I do have another comment, though.
Speaker A:Why is Corbett standing during this death.
Speaker B:Loop and that sitting.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:There's a lot of problems with this.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Because I'm also like.
Speaker B:I saw all the next.
Speaker B:My next notes, and I'm confused by the next note.
Speaker B:So you go with yours and see if that makes sense.
Speaker A:Well, Sam, we can actually.
Speaker A:We cut back down to the basement.
Speaker A:Sam and Dean are with Spruce, and they're trying to get his.
Speaker A:Spruce is still shooting.
Speaker A:They're trying to get out of the basement, but the.
Speaker A:The door is still locked.
Speaker A:The camera goes on the fritz.
Speaker A:And of course, Daggett spirit grabs Spruce, but Dean, Sam's able to shoot him.
Speaker A:And we've got kind of like a fight ensuing off and on downstairs between Daggett and Sam and Dean.
Speaker A:But Spruce still shooting.
Speaker A:But back upstairs, Harry tells.
Speaker A:This is where Terry tells Ed that Corbett had feelings for Ed.
Speaker A:And he's like, you gotta go be.
Speaker A:Yeah, you gotta go be good.
Speaker B:So pausing for this.
Speaker B:So pausing.
Speaker B:And this is where I got confused in my notes, because I have, you know.
Speaker B:So Dean's trying to beat the door of the basement down.
Speaker B:And then Sam gives Maggie lip for still shooting.
Speaker B:And Dean tells him.
Speaker B:He makes her feel.
Speaker B:Makes her feel better.
Speaker B:Did I just copy and paste something wrong in my.
Speaker A:I think you did.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That makes more sense.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:But when the camera is switching downstairs, this is when Spruce call.
Speaker B:Spruce calls it a ghost roll.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Ghost roll.
Speaker B:Ghost roll.
Speaker B:And that's why I started calling ghost roll instead of fritzing.
Speaker B:But I like it.
Speaker B:I like that term, like, for, like, things that are fritzing in and out.
Speaker B:Like, calling it a ghost roll.
Speaker A:I like it.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But this is where Harry informs Ed that Corbe had feelings for Ed and says, quote, you gotta go be gay for that poor, dead intern.
Speaker B:And also, I want to say, whoever did the transcript.
Speaker B:That is Office Supernatural, wiki.com, you were a fucking genius.
Speaker B:Because this is what they put in their transcript.
Speaker B:So Harry says he wanted you, Ed what?
Speaker B:Wanted me to what?
Speaker B:Harry.
Speaker B:You know, now Harry demonstrates with a slight grunt and pelvic thrust.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you know what you've got to do?
Speaker B:You can do it, Ed.
Speaker B:You've always been the brave one.
Speaker B:Yes, you can.
Speaker B:You make us brave, right?
Speaker B:And so head.
Speaker B:You got to be gay for that poor dead intern.
Speaker B:You gotta send him into the light.
Speaker B:But also, transcript person, slight grunt, pelvic Thrust.
Speaker A:Nicely done.
Speaker B:All the applause.
Speaker B:All the applause.
Speaker A:So he goes out, and Maggie follows Ed out of the assault, which is a weird choice, but again, she wants to get.
Speaker A:And everybody's all.
Speaker A:I mean, obviously, they're all very upset about Corbett right now.
Speaker A:And so Ed kind of does a confessional about how much Corbett meant to the team and to him and says that he loves him.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:But you kind of see, like, Corbett's spirit kind of, like, eyes refocus, and he sees Ed, and it's a very weird, like, heartfelt scene.
Speaker A:And you're expecting just that Ed's like, I'm going to free Corbett from his loop.
Speaker A:But you kind of see that Ed's got a different idea, and he asks Corbett to.
Speaker A:To help them.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Shit's gonna change.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we cut back to the basement, where there's a big brawl still going on back and forth between, like, Spirit gets shot with a shotgun.
Speaker A:Then he comes back, and then he's fighting Sam and E again, and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:And they can't get out of the basement still.
Speaker A:And then the stop.
Speaker A:The fight kind of stops.
Speaker A:And Corbett's there.
Speaker B:Well, before the fight stops, we think that he's going after Spruce.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:He starts going after Spruce, and we get a ghost roll.
Speaker B:And so now I'm going.
Speaker B:So it's interesting to you, Like.
Speaker B:Yeah, so I'm just calling it ghost roll now.
Speaker B:So before this, like, the.
Speaker B:It was not fritzing while they were fighting with.
Speaker B:With Daggett and Fritz when Daggett first showed up.
Speaker B:So I guess the fritz happens when they, like, pop up.
Speaker A:It's like an appearance.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like when they first show up, they.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Because even, like, think about how they got the footage of the guy upstairs.
Speaker A:Remember the first one that they said was a death echo?
Speaker A:They got shot like the.
Speaker A:Everything went fritz or ghost Ghost loop or ghost roll.
Speaker A:Excuse me.
Speaker A:Ghost rolled.
Speaker A:But then too many things now.
Speaker A:So it went on the fritz, slash, ghost rolled.
Speaker A:But then they were able to get clear footage of the guy saying his last words and getting shot.
Speaker A:So it's just when the ghost appears that it goes.
Speaker A:Goes wonky.
Speaker B:Fair.
Speaker B:All right, so then we get a ghost fight.
Speaker A:Corbett shows up.
Speaker A:What the fuck?
Speaker A:And Spirit Corbitt attacks Spirit Daggett, and they're, like, wrestling.
Speaker A:And there's a big flash of light.
Speaker A:Everything goes black, and they're both fucking gone.
Speaker B:It was like a ghost.
Speaker B:I was like, ghost whirlwind.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:They kind of just, like, grab each Other.
Speaker B:And they, like, spin around.
Speaker A:They like.
Speaker A:It's like a mirror.
Speaker A:Mean hug.
Speaker B:They have a mean hug.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:It's an angry hug.
Speaker B:Angry hug.
Speaker A:And then they.
Speaker A:And then they're gone.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then you see Sam and Dean get up with the.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Spruce is still filming, which is.
Speaker B:I think this is like, you know.
Speaker B:So all those, like we said, are coming from these different cameras.
Speaker B:So as the guys are getting off the floor, like, Spruce just like, kind of goes in for a quick close up.
Speaker B:And then Dean just like shoves his hand over the camera.
Speaker B:It's like we're fucking done.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Which we almost think would be the end of the episode, but it's not.
Speaker B:Like there's some more.
Speaker A:There's time.
Speaker A:So, Ghost Facers.
Speaker A:And we show all of the remaining Ghost Facers minus poor Corbett, exiting the house at dawn.
Speaker A:And there's a dramatic monologue courtesy of Harry and Ed about lost a friend but gained allies.
Speaker A:Lies.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Ed gives this dramatic voiceover and he is like, leap year.
Speaker B:February 29th, the Morton House.
Speaker B:A tragic day, A day of souls mounted.
Speaker B:Torment of lives held in cruel balance with the ghost wasters.
Speaker B:They did the best they could.
Speaker B:And then Harry comes in.
Speaker B:We lost a beloved friend, but we gained new allies.
Speaker B:And at this point, as they're all working out, we can see Dean rolling in the eyes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But you also see Sam hands up like a small slip of paper to Ed, which I thought was interesting, too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we're assuming that's a phone number.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Harry and Maggie at this point are just hugging like they're just like, our lives out in the world.
Speaker A:We are open with our love now.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they had a cute little monologue to Corbett where, you know.
Speaker B:Well, they cut that to Ghost Festival sisters.
Speaker B:Like, they're in their chairs again.
Speaker B:They're in their, like, back for their.
Speaker A:Outro, like they were for their intro.
Speaker A:And Ed says something along the lines of gay love pierces through the veil of death and saves the day.
Speaker B:And then goes into this war changes man thing, which I don't get.
Speaker B:I do as a reference to something, but I don't know what it is.
Speaker B:And I think it's a boy thing.
Speaker B:But he says, like, war changes man.
Speaker B:And then Hare is like, and Maggie.
Speaker B:Because you're like, bitch.
Speaker B:Like, we got girls and like.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And Maggie.
Speaker B:So we're changes man and Maggie.
Speaker B:And then we're going to go to promoting Corbett to full ghost facer.
Speaker B:Facer status.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that it would have been Cool to have a ghost on the team.
Speaker A:Yeah, because they're hoping that.
Speaker A:They were hoping that ghost Corbett would have hung out with them.
Speaker A:So we back, we pan out more, and we realize that all of what we've been watching is what the brothers have been watching along with the remaining Ghost Facers in the garage.
Speaker A:Garage.
Speaker A:Watching this.
Speaker A:Drinking beer.
Speaker A:And I'm just gonna say, I think we all know that good old Winchester brothers are not gonna let some network pick up Ghostfacers with them in it.
Speaker B:But they also think it's kind of great.
Speaker B:We do.
Speaker B:Like, they cut two scenes of Corbett loading up the van and doing his confessional.
Speaker B:And we get a freeze to in memory of Alan J. Corbett.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:2008.
Speaker B:King of the impossible.
Speaker B:And everybody's drinking beers as they're watching this too.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, yeah, I mean, it's half awesome.
Speaker B:And Sam's like, yeah, I mean, it's bizarre how you're all able to honor Corbin's memory while grossly exploiting the manner of his death.
Speaker A:Well, that was hilarious.
Speaker A:A very hilarious line.
Speaker A:I really like that line.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And as we're watching, like, this kind of pan out, and they're all kind of, like, just chatting about because the ghost faces are all excited about doing something with this footage, this episode they've edited, obviously down.
Speaker A:And you see Dean kind of fiddle with a bag that he has on the floor.
Speaker A:So, yeah, Ed's basically super committed to sharing the truth.
Speaker A:And the brother's like, yeah, you know what that gets you?
Speaker A:Get you?
Speaker A:A fucking straight jacket or a punch in the face or both.
Speaker A:People don't want to hear the fucking truth.
Speaker A:People don't want to know about this shit.
Speaker A:Don't do it.
Speaker A:Keep it.
Speaker A:Keep it quiet.
Speaker B:Quiet.
Speaker B:And Harry is like, don't be face.
Speaker A:Or face our haters.
Speaker B:Face our haters.
Speaker A:Century Footage of the century.
Speaker B:Yeah, there was some commentary or interview I was watching where somewhere they just called Sam and teen face haters.
Speaker B:And I also pretty much enjoy that term.
Speaker A:Face haters.
Speaker B:Face haters.
Speaker A:So the brothers are like, all right, guys, whatevs.
Speaker A:And they bail, right?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so they leave.
Speaker B:And Ed closes the door.
Speaker B:And we get another shot of the COVID poster.
Speaker A:Yeah, we do.
Speaker A:And then Ed realizes there's a bag where Dean was sitting, and so he goes to look inside, and it's this kind of wonky looking device.
Speaker A:And all the screens start going static.
Speaker A:Very ghost early, but minus the ghosts.
Speaker A:And the computer says, no operating system found.
Speaker A:So every computer in the room just got wiped, by the way.
Speaker A:If I was in that room and I had my phone, I'd be fucking pissed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So mad.
Speaker A:So we see our brothers back at the Impala, and apparently it was a.
Speaker A:Dean had an electromagnet and wiped it all.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, basically just said EMF point.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So all their computers are now wiped by the Facer haters.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And Dean was just like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Wiped out every tape and hard drive they had.
Speaker B:And Sam's like, the world just ain't ready for the Ghost Facers.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, too bad.
Speaker B:Kind of like the show.
Speaker B:And Sam's like, it had its moments.
Speaker B:And they're gonna cut to ghost ghost faces.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:I told you it was gonna be a long one, Diana.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:I told you, there's just too much in this.
Speaker A:It's too fun.
Speaker A:It was very fun.
Speaker A:And we had a lot of commentary, Terry, so it's fine.
Speaker A:But I don't know if I have much else.
Speaker B:I mean, I guess I just want to know, like, overall.
Speaker B:So I guess this is when the first, like, super, like, we've done some meta things in the past, but this is like, we're just ripping fun at everything that we do and everything that the world thinks of as paranormal.
Speaker A:So I thought it was super fun.
Speaker A:I thought it was a neat.
Speaker A:A neat approach.
Speaker A:I thought was a nice breakup to too.
Speaker A:You know, honestly, it's been.
Speaker A:Yes, they always try to add some humor.
Speaker A:And I know we've had some funny stuff with, like, the episode with Dean dying 8 million times.
Speaker A:But, like, honestly, that was a really, like, the turn.
Speaker A:It went from being very slapstick to being really fucking really fucking dark really fast.
Speaker A:And this added, I think, a fun layer of being a little bit more relatable.
Speaker A:In a lot of ways, it kind of made it more, quote, unquote, real, but also made it very.
Speaker A:A little bit more lighthearted and accessible and easier to, like, be excited about the characters in some ways.
Speaker A:Does that make sense instead of sad?
Speaker B:No, it does.
Speaker A:I think we.
Speaker A:Down to the last two months, Dean's gonna fucking die.
Speaker A:Like, all right, well, is the series over?
Speaker A:Is the show over?
Speaker A:Are they gonna do something dumb?
Speaker A:Like, I mean, because obviously, like, I'm not.
Speaker A:Guess what, guys?
Speaker A:I know I haven't seen this show before, but I realized that Dean doesn't leave the show in two months.
Speaker A:Like, I figured this out.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:I mean, so, I mean, it's kind of like, all right, we know.
Speaker A:I know something is going to happen.
Speaker A:But this was a nice little break.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Other things I think that are important is to think about this episode in the temporal span.
Speaker B:Just throw in some big ass words there.
Speaker B:But so this is like we said, this is right after the writers strike.
Speaker B:So this is also, I think, a very tongue in cheek moment of everybody who said, we don't need writers, creators.
Speaker B:We're just gonna have reality TV now.
Speaker B:Because this is really when reality TV was, like, starting off.
Speaker B:I mean, Ghost Hunters was pretty new.
Speaker B: It was: Speaker B:So this is pre Zach Biggins days.
Speaker B:Like, we didn't even have ghost adventures yet.
Speaker B:Like, this was the original paranormal ghost, like ghost time.
Speaker B:But even that we had.
Speaker B:I think this is like the first Bachelors or first Real Housewives, like all that shit that replaced certain things during the writers strike.
Speaker B:And if you're a young child, you don't remember this, but there is a time when there was no TV because there was a writer strike.
Speaker B:And so this was the actual writer is like being like, fuck you, reality.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which I think is great.
Speaker A:So layers on layers, so many layers.
Speaker B:And like an onion, a supernatural onion.
Speaker A:Supernatural onion.
Speaker A:Is that like a ghost cake?
Speaker B:It's like a ghost cake, but still, like, much like the regular blooming onion.
Speaker B:I don't know where to find one, so.
Speaker B:God damn it, someone sent me a blooming onion.
Speaker B:All right, so with that.
Speaker B:All right, cheers.
Speaker B:Jerk.
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