3:14 Long-Distance Call
Dive into the history of call waiting and caller ID when we discuss Supernatural Season 3, Episode 14 "Long-Distance Call." Spoiler alert - we hate it. But you can also learn about the Crocotta who we think just sounds adorable.
Sources:
- https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ghost%20Phone
- https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ghost-detector-talk-to-spirits/id1356046888
- https://paranormalschool.com/can-ghosts-communicate-through-phones/
- https://paranormalauthority.com/ghost-apps/
- https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/Crocotta
- https://mythologyplanet.com/what-is-the-crocotta-indian-mythology-beast/
Transcript
On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we talk about season three, episode 14, long distance call, where we see this is not Thomas Edison's ghost phone.
Speaker B:We learn that Supernatural invented doordash.
Speaker A:Do you want to cuddle with a crocotta?
Speaker B:And finally keep on chucking.
Speaker B:Let's do this,.
Speaker A:Sam.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker B:I'm Diana and my voice is so low that tonight I shall be Elizabeth.
Speaker B:That is what you shall call me.
Speaker B:I am Elizabeth tonight.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And this week we're going to talk about season three, episode 14, long distance call.
Speaker B:Boo.
Speaker A:Boo.
Speaker A:It's an upsetting episode.
Speaker B:Episode sucks.
Speaker B:It has its moments and we'll get into it.
Speaker B:But overall, me end this episode, do not get along.
Speaker B:So before we get into that, how you doing?
Speaker A:I'm good.
Speaker A:I'm good.
Speaker A:Better than you.
Speaker A:But I was there a few weeks ago, so no, I've had a pretty chill weekend and got to reconnect with some friends we try to get together every few months that I've known since elementary school.
Speaker A:It's pretty cool.
Speaker A:So shout out to Brooke, Jessica and Stephanie if you happen to tune in sometime.
Speaker A:Had a fun brunch and then went and watched the cowboys get fucking destroyed with my family, which was a good time.
Speaker A:Except for the game part.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that's what I got.
Speaker A:How about you?
Speaker B:So lots of things happened this week.
Speaker B:Oh, so, okay, did we recorded before I went to last podcast.
Speaker B:So we went to go.
Speaker B:My friend and I went to go see the live edition of last podcast of the Left at Paramount Theater.
Speaker B:It was fucking fantastic.
Speaker B:The guys are really funny.
Speaker B:I'm going to stop going to Q and A sessions with just in general, anything that I'm a fan of because, hey, other geek people, I love you think about the things you're asking.
Speaker B:And if you were sitting in the audience and listening to that question, would you want to throw something at yourself?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And if you would, then don't ask it.
Speaker B:And also, I always feel like a lot of them are the times where people are trying to introduce themselves so they can get into the host graces.
Speaker B:And granted the two who did that, at least two of the ones who did that this week had a reason.
Speaker B:And one of them, I want to track her down.
Speaker B:She was this really hot tattooed mortician from Austin who's in the Temple set.
Speaker B:And I'm like, okay, I can stalk this woman from Temple A set.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:But Temple is set.
Speaker B:Your website's not very good.
Speaker B:You should update that shit.
Speaker B:Maybe you've got a Facebook group and I'm not in it.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And then there was another one.
Speaker B:And this girls are talking.
Speaker B:She is a professor at Texas State, and her husband's Dr. Laycock, the one that he wrote the.
Speaker B:The Penguin Book of Exorcisms that we talked about on this show.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I was, like, really excited.
Speaker B:And I was like, huh?
Speaker B:I should stalk these people.
Speaker B:And then I was like, that involves us sitting here.
Speaker B:There are all these questions.
Speaker B:And I went, no.
Speaker B:And I turned to my best friend.
Speaker B:I was like, do you want to leave?
Speaker B:And he was like, yes.
Speaker B:And so we left the Q and A early, but still was a great, great show.
Speaker B:Then Saturday, our friends at Hiram did a prohibition brunch.
Speaker B:And so it was really great.
Speaker A:Yeah, I wanted to go.
Speaker B:Nick and Stephanie talked a lot about just prohibition history and history of this kind of like the liquor laws in general.
Speaker B:But then.
Speaker B:And they had made, like, delicious cocktails.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:And Stephanie made this.
Speaker B:Okay, here's your.
Speaker B:Here's your housekeeping tip for your week.
Speaker B:The salad we had.
Speaker B:One of the things in the brunch was this quiche, and it was topped with this dressed arugula salad.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So just straight up arugula.
Speaker A:I love arugula.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The dressing she used is fucking crack.
Speaker B:And all it was was lemon juice and sesame oil mixed together.
Speaker B:And it was so good.
Speaker B:I like, I just.
Speaker B:I. I need to make that now all the time.
Speaker B:And it's just.
Speaker B:How easy is that?
Speaker A:It's just super easy.
Speaker A:I mean, it's an oil and an acid.
Speaker A:I mean, that's the basis of most dressings, but I've just never thought of combining those two.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker B:That was really good.
Speaker B:And then came.
Speaker B:Went and did win around Dripping Springs that I haven't been around in a while.
Speaker B:And wow, we got.
Speaker B:I knew we were getting bougie, but.
Speaker A:Fuck, we got real bougie.
Speaker B:Like, now I know where all those flat hats we see chicks wearing in the hill country are wearing.
Speaker B:Like, I know where they come from.
Speaker B:They come from downtown Shipping Springs.
Speaker B:I can send you guys to the website if you want to buy some.
Speaker B:But I did that and then came back and then I.
Speaker B:Dealing with some family shit.
Speaker B:So I do that in the ways that I always do, which is drank a little bit of wine.
Speaker B:And I organize my books.
Speaker B:So I had.
Speaker B:My library is now organized and sorted.
Speaker B:One more step it'll have to take, which will be the alphabetizing.
Speaker B:But, oh, yeah, I got to Sit there and go, so like, is this like, does this one go in, you know, witchcraft, demonology or vampires?
Speaker B:Like, this one has a werewolf and tricksters in it.
Speaker B:Like, are these separate things?
Speaker B:So lots of fun questions I got to ask myself.
Speaker B:And then, oh, Sunday we went and there is a place that's open in Dripping Springs called Dreamland.
Speaker B:And I've kind of been hesitant to go there.
Speaker B:Like, and I know they do live music there, but need to hang out with some family who had some kids.
Speaker B:Not like baby kids, like you know, like middle school age things.
Speaker B:And so Dreamland has like pickleball, which I guess is a thing now, and disc golf and mini golf and.
Speaker B:But also food and drinks.
Speaker B:And I get there and I'm like waiting at a table and I kind of text my cousin.
Speaker B:I'm like, where are you?
Speaker B:And she's like, oh, we're in the tap room.
Speaker B:And I was like, where's the tap room?
Speaker B:And I walk in and they have the most amazing system.
Speaker B:So you get like a car, an RFID card like you would a Dave and Buster's, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's just hooked to your tab.
Speaker B:And then all around the tap room are different Texas beers on draft and also different wines and also some cocktails.
Speaker B:And then you just put your little card in there and you pull down into your, like into your, your pint, whatever you want.
Speaker A:And it.
Speaker A:And it just serve.
Speaker A:You're just self serving with like like your game card at fucking.
Speaker B:Yes, it is like your game card at Dave and Dusters.
Speaker B:And there's a number on there.
Speaker B:So you can see your total tab is running up as you're pouring it.
Speaker B:Like it's, it's worth being in a place where there's children.
Speaker B:Like it is worth it for that.
Speaker B:There is like even a guy playing like really loud blues guitar.
Speaker B:And it was still worth it because.
Speaker A:Like middle aged, middle aged white guy blues.
Speaker B:He was a white, but he was black.
Speaker A:And it was also, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker A:You know, it doesn't matter what color you are, middle aged white.
Speaker A:But Guy Blues is a thing.
Speaker B:It's a thing and I hate it.
Speaker B:There's one bar, there's one bar in Las Vegas and my friends loves and I'm like, but any he, honestly he would, it would have been fine background music.
Speaker A:It was too loud.
Speaker B:It was so loud.
Speaker B:I'm like, man, like, why is your amp like just, just turn it down just like a little bit.
Speaker B:Like we'll be able to hear you fine.
Speaker A:It doesn't need to be at 11 in this room anyways.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:We're outside.
Speaker B:Like 11's not needed.
Speaker B:Like, you're cool, man.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yesterday I went and flew to Houston and I got picked up a new car.
Speaker B:Woohoo.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker A:New car.
Speaker B:Because I'm that bitch and I own two cars now.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker A:I mean, we had four between the two of us for a while.
Speaker A:We're down to three though, last year.
Speaker B:But so yeah, I've got a Mini Cooper and it's a Clubman and so I have a whole new thing to customize and access.
Speaker A:Oh, because that's what you need.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because I spent all the money customizing the Jeep and I've kind of run out of the things I want to do for it for right now.
Speaker B:So having a whole other car that's ready to go, you know, it's nice.
Speaker A:And is a little bit more weather resistant for like if you just want to cruise somewhere.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Driving back from Houston was much nicer in my little car with its, you know, temperature control in there, everything.
Speaker B:There's no soft top flapping behind me, making a lot of noise.
Speaker B:There's heated seats if I want.
Speaker B:Want them.
Speaker B:Like all sorts of things.
Speaker A:I love my heated seats.
Speaker A:That is like a prerequisite for all modern cars for me now.
Speaker A:Like air conditioned seats are interesting.
Speaker A:Like they're fine.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna, I'm not, I'm not gonna scoff at them.
Speaker A:But a heated seat, there's something to be said for.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I just.
Speaker B:There is.
Speaker B:It's gonna take me a while to figure out all my doodads and electronics and switches.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:It's a space car, so I gotta say that's not quite a Tesla, but it will park itself, so.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:Well, it will.
Speaker B:I will.
Speaker B:It will parallel park for me, which is.
Speaker A:That's pretty cool.
Speaker A:I'm excited.
Speaker B:That's so exciting.
Speaker B:Like, I can just be cruising around downtown and like, not have to worry about me.
Speaker A:Push a button.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker A:So are you gonna drive it up here?
Speaker A:Because we're getting ready, counting down in a couple weeks to go to the Creation Entertainment Supernatural convention in Plano.
Speaker A:We'll be there on the Sunday for sure.
Speaker A:The weekend of the.
Speaker A:What is it, the 28th?
Speaker A:29Th and 30th.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hold on, I need to check.
Speaker B:I think the auctions may have ended today.
Speaker A:Let me take a look, see if you won some shit.
Speaker B:Well, we won some shit because there's things for Both of us.
Speaker A:Oh, we're pretty excited because our TV brothers, if you will, are both Texas boys.
Speaker A:And they will be back in Texas.
Speaker B:God damn it, Richard.
Speaker B:So I had us at bidding on meet and greets with Jensen, Jared and Richard Spate, and we're winning on Richard Spade and Jared.
Speaker B:And I'll tell you how much Jensen's up to now, and it's fucking ridiculous.
Speaker B:But Richard has.
Speaker B:Has.
Speaker B:Is no longer in my active.
Speaker B:So I am wondering if he is bowing out of this convention again.
Speaker A:I hope not, because he bowed out of New Orleans.
Speaker A:We missed him there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:It's not in my active.
Speaker B:It's not in my watching.
Speaker B:It's not in my one.
Speaker B:Let me check.
Speaker B:Not one.
Speaker B:Nope, not in there.
Speaker B:So, guys, you heard it here first.
Speaker B:Richard Spates, that Kevin going to the Supernatural convention.
Speaker B:That is.
Speaker B:I am going on it.
Speaker B:Okay, so the starting bid for the 30 minute meet and greet with Jared and when Jensen both started out at 300.
Speaker B:At $300.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So I've got three, like $300.
Speaker B:Fine.
Speaker B:Jensen is up to $705 per item.
Speaker A:For a meet and greet.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:But I think it's funny that it's only Jensen and not Jared.
Speaker B:Like, oh, well, I really hope we do win the Jared, because that's going to be the question I asked.
Speaker B:Like, so are you pissed that people want to spend $400 and $405 more.
Speaker B:More to see Jensen than to see you?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yikes.
Speaker A:Burn, burn, burn.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So those auctions end in 16 hours and 20 minutes.
Speaker A:Go place your bids.
Speaker B:There are many other coming there too, but I was really cognizant of only bidding on people where I could keep Diana spoilers to a minimum.
Speaker B:Obviously, we go to these conventions and the panels go through and Diana's not an idiot.
Speaker A:I. I spend time on social media and I develop most of our Instagram, so, I mean, I see a lot of supernatural stuff that's past what we've.
Speaker B:Watched, but I also think it's not as fun if you're not as invested in the characters.
Speaker A:Oh, for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So anyways,.
Speaker A:What are you drinking?
Speaker A:Anything fun?
Speaker B:I am drinking a hot toddy.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:I love a hot toddy.
Speaker A:I. I just wasn't.
Speaker A:I was going back and forth if I want to make a beverage, and I just wasn't feeling it.
Speaker A:So I busted out one of my stash of my Big Red zeros because they are kind of hard to find and I love Big Red, but I can't have the sugar.
Speaker A:Because I'm a brat.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Got Big Red Zero over here and.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what I got.
Speaker B:I love a Big Red Zero.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:You don't get all that, like the syrupy sugar, but you get the Big Red flavor.
Speaker A:Damn it.
Speaker A:There's your ad.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, we're just pitching so much.
Speaker A:We are.
Speaker B:Don't get paid for tonight.
Speaker A:I know, but it's all right.
Speaker A:It's all right.
Speaker A:We'll.
Speaker A:Someday we'll make it up.
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Someday Big Red will be listening to this and be like, what?
Speaker B:Stop everything?
Speaker B:You give those bitches sponsorship.
Speaker A:I will take pay in the form of Big Red.
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker B:And Barbara Cohen, though.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I want to have them both.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:So we are talking about long since call, which Liz hates.
Speaker B:I hate.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:This is Season 3, Episode 14.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:It was directed by Robert Singer and Jeremy Carver.
Speaker B:And you should both be very ashamed.
Speaker B:Ashamed of yourselves.
Speaker B:We should also probably start this with a warning.
Speaker B:This episode does involve suicide and talks of it, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:All right, we're just gonna dive right in.
Speaker B:So it was a dark and stormy night.
Speaker B:How this starts.
Speaker B:It was a dark and stormy night.
Speaker A:Does.
Speaker A:Rainstorm, big house.
Speaker A:And there's this guy pouring himself a drink that looks like, you know, like cliche.
Speaker A:Like, man with his tie, lucent pouring stuff.
Speaker A:Cocktail and a cocktail.
Speaker B:He's pouring himself straight up whiskey.
Speaker A:But you know.
Speaker A:But you know what I mean.
Speaker A:Like the very, very, very cliche scene.
Speaker A:And the phone rings and the call.
Speaker A:And it's like.
Speaker A:I guess we're also hitting a point in time, which is really like, I won't go down a rabbit hole.
Speaker A:But we're hitting a weird point in time where there are going to be a huge generational gap where just a telephone, like even a telephone that's not that old by our standards really dates a show.
Speaker A:Just saying.
Speaker A:Anyway, so his landline is ringing and the caller ID says SHA3 3.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:We figure out his name is Ben.
Speaker A:And the woman on the other line on the other phone is Linda.
Speaker A:And he's like, it's the.
Speaker A:The dialogue here gives you the impression that this man is having an affair with Linda and is not and is trying to end it in some way and telling her to leave him alone.
Speaker A:And he refuses to go to her, which is an interesting tie in.
Speaker A:But she's like, I'm not gonna leave you alone.
Speaker A:We Love each other.
Speaker A:And he's like, hang up.
Speaker A:She keeps calling back.
Speaker A:He' fudgeing freaks and destroys the phone.
Speaker A:The phone is fucking smashed on the floor.
Speaker A:And it rings again.
Speaker A:And that's where I'm like, oh, shit, this is freaky.
Speaker A:And I'm not going to like this.
Speaker A:That's about the point where I already knew that it was going to freak me out.
Speaker B:And this, it's whole, like opening scene is just sad and gross.
Speaker B:And they're doing some things that are kind of going back and forth, you know.
Speaker B:And it's like, you know, we've got a psycho ex girlfriend.
Speaker B:Like, we don't really know what's going on.
Speaker B:We've got an unplugged phone, which is always just as.
Speaker B:And settling.
Speaker B:And then I don't know why unplug phone.
Speaker B:Like unplug things in general that are going like.
Speaker A:It's like our trust in things, like it's our control over them is we know that there is a way to.
Speaker B:Control it at work in my industry, I trust nothing.
Speaker B:The machines.
Speaker A:And honestly, like I told.
Speaker A:I was telling.
Speaker A:I was telling Babe about a couple things in this episode.
Speaker A:And he's like, what about Liz?
Speaker A:Have a lot to share around.
Speaker A:I'm like, yeah, I bet.
Speaker A:So anyways, so the guys freak the out.
Speaker B:And to say one thing on the two like that.
Speaker B:Shaw.
Speaker B:Three.
Speaker B:Three.
Speaker B:So there is a thing that.
Speaker B:How do I put this?
Speaker B:That we use to fingerprint files.
Speaker B:And It's a shot 256.
Speaker B:So I see this like every day in my work.
Speaker B:That number, that line.
Speaker B:I see shaw and then 256.
Speaker B:And then followed by a bunch of fucking random numbers and letters.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker B:But so this triggers me every time I see it.
Speaker B:I kept expecting more.
Speaker B:And I was like, nope, nope, that's not what this means.
Speaker A:That's not what this is.
Speaker A:Not what this is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he.
Speaker A:But so we.
Speaker A:We watched Ben now get.
Speaker A:Pull a revolver out of his drawer, say, okay, Linda, you win.
Speaker A:I'm coming.
Speaker A:And shoot himself.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm coming.
Speaker A:So wrong.
Speaker B:I mean, what else are you gonna say?
Speaker B:Cause it was gross.
Speaker B:Like it is.
Speaker A:It's really gross.
Speaker A:And like, you're also like.
Speaker A:But you're like, why are you.
Speaker B:Don't shoot yourself that way.
Speaker B:You're gon to it up.
Speaker A:Like it's going to be bad.
Speaker A:You're just very risky.
Speaker B:It's very risky.
Speaker B:You're not going to die.
Speaker B:You're just going to end up in a very uncomfortable place.
Speaker B:And then someone's going to have to walk in and find you and all this stuff.
Speaker B:So anyways, yeah, it's.
Speaker B:At least they don't show the actual.
Speaker B:They don't show the actual death.
Speaker B:All they do is show the blood spatter.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so we kind of see that ending.
Speaker B:And then we're going to cut to Sam.
Speaker B:This is also another.
Speaker B:And I think it's a singer thing.
Speaker B:I think he really likes doing cuts.
Speaker A:There's a lot of cuts in this.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:It's a major, like, cut back and forth.
Speaker A:This scene, that scene.
Speaker A:This scene, that scene, like, jumping around.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It'll be very hard to talk through when we get there.
Speaker A:But we'll get there.
Speaker A:We'll make it work.
Speaker A:So Sam's coming out of a building, says the professor doesn't know shit.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, look, I got this call from Bobby.
Speaker A:There's this.
Speaker A:Basically, it's this job.
Speaker A:He wants to go do this.
Speaker A:He'll find this banker who died.
Speaker A:It might be spirits in Ohio.
Speaker A:And he had been complaining about electrical problems.
Speaker A:Sam's just annoyed because at this point, Sam fused their only job.
Speaker A:He's like, what?
Speaker A:You want to just go do another fucking job?
Speaker A:Our job is saving your ass, Dean.
Speaker A:It's kind of his attitude, but.
Speaker A:Which is fair.
Speaker A:But I also get, like, if you're hitting dead ends, I don't know.
Speaker A:Might as well do something.
Speaker B:Might as well be productive.
Speaker B:Step away from the problem.
Speaker B:Take it.
Speaker B:You know, take a step back.
Speaker B:You know, like, if I'm thinking about shutting, you know, get in the shower.
Speaker B:And you think things.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker B:Anyway, Sam, this is probably also another reason we're getting.
Speaker B:I just hate it when they bicker back and forth about this.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Such a beating.
Speaker A:But we do get a big revelation at this point.
Speaker A:And this is where Dean admits to Sam that Ruby told him that he cannot be saved.
Speaker A:So that was kind of a big deal.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Sam now knows this.
Speaker B:And so one.
Speaker B:He knows that Dean has now this.
Speaker B:That has lied to him about it.
Speaker B:Ruby has lied to him.
Speaker B:And they really kind of delve into the.
Speaker B:Well, Ruby lied to you, you know, and that's.
Speaker B:It's kind of a big lie.
Speaker B:Even though she's a demon and we expect her to lie.
Speaker A:But also, how do we know she's not lying to Dean?
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker B:Yeah, fair.
Speaker B:And it's fair, but we don't.
Speaker B:But we don't think she is.
Speaker B:I mean, I don't think she is.
Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker B:But Sam basically is going to cave and so he's like, whatever.
Speaker B:And we're going to.
Speaker B:We're going to go to Ohio and work this case.
Speaker B:Yeah, we're going to Milan, Ohio.
Speaker A:Sounds fancy.
Speaker B:It doesn't sound fancy.
Speaker B:It also sounds, once you get to the Ohio part, that it starts sounding less not fancy.
Speaker B:Yeah, no.
Speaker A:No offense, Ohio, but maybe this is.
Speaker B:Why this woman, Mrs.
Speaker B:Waters, is such a.
Speaker A:She is kind of.
Speaker A:I mean, but also, like, she's already rehashed this shit with, like, the regular detectives and now she's going back through it with these guys.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I watch enough crime shows to know how many times you're going to be, like, investigated, talked to.
Speaker B:No matter what you are, like, who you are in a.
Speaker B:There's a potential murder situation going on,.
Speaker A:Like, or a weird or suspicious suicide or whatever, there's gonna be a lot of fucking questions.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:And they're going to talk to you more than once.
Speaker B:They're just doing their jobs.
Speaker B:Lighten up, Linda.
Speaker B:I guess you're not Linda, but you know Mrs. Mrs.
Speaker B:Waters, like, you're fucking cranky and we get it.
Speaker B:But shit, lady, she's not.
Speaker A:But she's not really.
Speaker A:She's not very supportive or helpful here.
Speaker A:And Sam.
Speaker A:But Sam does get a chance to check the caller ID and does make a note of that SHA3 3 on there.
Speaker A:And so he asks.
Speaker A:Ask the widow about weird calls.
Speaker A:And her name is Mrs.
Speaker B:Waters.
Speaker B:And I have her written as Mrs. Cranky Pants, though, so you can refer to her as Mrs. Cranky Pants.
Speaker A:Mrs. Cranky Pants.
Speaker A:And she, at first she's, like, kind of evasive, but then she's like, finally like, well, I did hear him talking on the phone.
Speaker A:He was talking on the phone to Linda.
Speaker A:And when I picked up the phone, there was just static, which is creepy.
Speaker B:And then they ask her about it.
Speaker B:She's like, oh, oh, no.
Speaker B:What difference does it make, man?
Speaker B:Man, fuck you, Mrs. Cranky Pants.
Speaker B:Like, obvious.
Speaker B:Say, clearly that was something weird.
Speaker B:It was something weird.
Speaker A:Your husband's dad, notable weird.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, I would think that you'd be obsessing.
Speaker A:Like, really?
Speaker A:Why wouldn't you be obsessing over every weird thing that happened leading up?
Speaker A:If you were really upset about what did I do?
Speaker B:Like, what did I do to cause this?
Speaker B:What happened?
Speaker A:What did somebody else do?
Speaker A:What did he do?
Speaker A:What happened?
Speaker A:Anything?
Speaker B:Yeah, I could see why he cheated on you with a ghost.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's just it.
Speaker A:He had an emotional affair with.
Speaker B:He had an emotional affair with a ghost.
Speaker B:And, well, which is.
Speaker A:Which is what we find out in the next scene.
Speaker A:But that's okay.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Okay, so we're cut to a hotel and Dean has found Linda.
Speaker A:Linda died in a wreck like 20 years ago.
Speaker A:Ish.
Speaker A:I don't remember exactly, but basically Linda and Ben were high school sweethearts and she died in a car accident and was cremated.
Speaker A:So not only does that mean that there's no body for them to find to get rid of her spirit, it means she'd been dead for a long time and she's calling this dude.
Speaker A:And the phone number type that they.
Speaker A:That was being used, the SHA3 3 apparently is like 100 years old.
Speaker A:Old.
Speaker A:Over 100 years old.
Speaker A:So that's.
Speaker A:That's all distressing information.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't want to get creepy, suspicious calls from people that are gone.
Speaker A:As much as I might miss people, that doesn't seem like a great way to communicate.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:But I do like that Sam's like, so we.
Speaker B:Oh, sorry.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:Guys, I'm a little spacey tonight, so we're gonna have to.
Speaker B:Okay, so phones with hand cranks.
Speaker B:Yeah, I just like that idea.
Speaker B:Like, this number has been around since phones with hand cranks.
Speaker B:And I'm like, but that cranks.
Speaker B:And you would call.
Speaker B:You would have an operator, and she'd be like, hey, Myrtle.
Speaker B:Myrtle.
Speaker B:Who are you calling it?
Speaker B:Oh, I'd like to place a number.
Speaker B:Two sh.
Speaker B:Eight.
Speaker B:Three.
Speaker B:Three.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Myrtle.
Speaker A:And then they pull one plug out, and then they plug the other plug in.
Speaker A:Like it's a whole thing.
Speaker A:It looks very satisfying.
Speaker B:It does look very satisfying.
Speaker B:And like, as someone who enjoys gossip, sounds like the best job in the world.
Speaker B:Like, you can listen in and everybody should listen to.
Speaker B:Listen to stuff all day long.
Speaker B:And as we'll learn from some of the calls that go on, people do some stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we get the brothers at the phone company, and they're being escorted downstairs, like, the basement of the phone company by this executive looking guy who we have got his name and I on a different page.
Speaker A:Clark.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:And he sends them downstairs to.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker A:To see like, the guy who, like, runs the networks and shit down there.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:And there's flies, which is creepy.
Speaker A:And I find it weird that they go in and I describe this guy as the greasy nerd before I wrote his name down.
Speaker A:So sorry, not.
Speaker B:His name is Stewie.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:Which I also felt fit really well with Greasy.
Speaker A:With Stewie.
Speaker A:Greasy Stewie.
Speaker B:So, yeah, so Stewie looks like he has Covid.
Speaker A:And he's watching porn and literally jacking off to porn.
Speaker A:Like, has no.
Speaker A:Like, doesn't.
Speaker A:Doesn't care about the mess all over the fucking office and workspace.
Speaker A:Like, brushes off the fly.
Speaker A:Doesn't give a shit.
Speaker A:Doesn't give a shit that this guy's yanking it on the job while he's bringing guests down there.
Speaker A:And he barely stops when they walk in.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:Like his hand is still like at his dick.
Speaker B:Like he's just ready to go.
Speaker B:And I'm like, man.
Speaker B:Also, though, weird IT guys in basements.
Speaker B:I mean, it's stereotype.
Speaker B:Is it wrong a lot?
Speaker A:Some stereotypes are somewhat based on observations.
Speaker B:Haven't someone who been somebody who has worked in a certain industry for over a decade.
Speaker B:It's not wrong.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Also, he is on Dean's favorite website too.
Speaker B:He isn't.
Speaker B:Which we'll get to.
Speaker B:I will say though, like, guys, like, no matter like who you are, clearly he's not.
Speaker B:I don't really think he's the IT guy.
Speaker B:Just know that the security people can see everything that you're doing on your computer.
Speaker B:So yeah, just think about that on your work computer when you go to Busted, Busty Asian Beauties dot com.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Dean's favorite website is.
Speaker B:And I mean just supernatural favorite website overall, I think for porn.
Speaker B:And Dean highly recommends the platinum membership, as do I pay your artist.
Speaker B:She's working hard so you can be hard.
Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker A:They're going to say.
Speaker B:That I just made that shit up.
Speaker B:Guys, this is what you pay for.
Speaker B:This is what you pay all your no dollars.
Speaker A:All your no dollars for.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And Stewie's really like, there's no way that we can't trace that number.
Speaker A:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:And it's like all like shitty about it.
Speaker A:And then he traces it and figures out that there's been like 10 houses called by it in two weeks.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I also like for some reason when I hear Stewie like.
Speaker B:And I know there's like Family Guy Stewie, but now I think Stewart from Letterkenny.
Speaker B:So Stuart, later time.
Speaker B:Like, someone says Stewie.
Speaker B:I'm like, Stewart,.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker A:There's like the other steward I go to is the one from Mad tv.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Oh, I was doing all right.
Speaker B:So stop.
Speaker B:All right, so Covid Guy Covid.
Speaker B:Stewie figures out that he's called 10 different houses and he just wants to get back to spanking his.
Speaker A:He's like, all right, I found your number.
Speaker A:Let me go back to my port.
Speaker A:Yeah, so Sam goes to this house in a Like a rental car.
Speaker A:He's all fancy now and it's probably from the phone company.
Speaker A:And the phone man's like, why the fuck is the phone company here?
Speaker A:He's like, oh, well, I just want to make sure we have reports of like some dropped calls and shit around here.
Speaker A:Blah.
Speaker A:And the guy's like, yeah, none here.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:But there's this awkward chick in the background that's like a teenager and she's watching and you're like, obviously she knows something.
Speaker A:So anyways, as Dean's or, sorry, as Sam's getting ready to leave, she comes outside and she's like, yeah, you're obviously don't work for the phone company, motherfucker.
Speaker A:You've got a rental car and a cheap suit.
Speaker A:This is bullshit.
Speaker A:You wouldn't be here.
Speaker B:Okay, I have a lot of issues with this one.
Speaker B:I mean, like, I.
Speaker B:Maybe he's not a phone repair service man, but like, it's just a car girl and like suit.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, he's from the telephone company.
Speaker B:Like, he's a consultant.
Speaker B:He's driving.
Speaker B:I know a lot of consultants who travel in real cars and cheap suits.
Speaker B:I think you have a crush on Sam.
Speaker B:That is what I think is happening.
Speaker B:And you were looking for an excuse to go outside and talk to him.
Speaker A:Well, she's like, no, I haven't heard anything.
Speaker A:But you know, I just thought it was weird that you're here.
Speaker A:Kind of an attitude.
Speaker A:And finally like, Sam does his.
Speaker A:Let me connect with you on a deep emotional level.
Speaker B:And there's a line that Dean's gonna say later, which I think kind of.
Speaker B:But they're kind of smirk bantering and it's a little creepy.
Speaker B:Sam, she's like 12.
Speaker B:Like, you should stop what you're doing.
Speaker A:She's a fucking minor.
Speaker A:Stop being creepy.
Speaker A:Because she's.
Speaker B:She's into it.
Speaker B:Like, no, stop.
Speaker B:Sam, stop.
Speaker B:This is inappropriate.
Speaker B:Inappropriate.
Speaker A:So Lainey is her name and she finally admits that she's been talking on the phone to Rama mom who's been dead for years.
Speaker A:And so,.
Speaker B:Yeah, so.
Speaker B:And we find out these calls started a week ago.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah, so.
Speaker A:So yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And Dean's talking about how he just met with an 84 year old grandmother who's having phone sex with her husband who died in Korea.
Speaker B:Go grandma.
Speaker B:I get you.
Speaker B:Get you some grandma.
Speaker B:I am really happy that you know a sexy phone call.
Speaker B:I'm just like, I don't even know how it started.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, whatever is.
Speaker B:But like, were you always having like.
Speaker B:So this doesn't make me wonder.
Speaker B:Has sex state?
Speaker B:Like, I guess that's sexting, but whatever.
Speaker B:Phone has phone sex.
Speaker B:Phone was like.
Speaker B:Like that.
Speaker B:Was that, like, the second call that was ever made.
Speaker B:What are you wearing?
Speaker A:Like, I mean, like, that's.
Speaker B:I saw your ankles today.
Speaker A:It didn't take long for Internet porn to be a thing.
Speaker B:Yeah, you know, I saw your.
Speaker B:Your sleeve pull up and I saw your elbow, and it was the sexiest elbow.
Speaker B:I' such a sexy elbow.
Speaker B:This is a party line.
Speaker A:And Dean makes a funny reference to about.
Speaker A:It's about to be spook central about where they're at.
Speaker A:So it's kind of funny.
Speaker B:Ghostbusters.
Speaker A:Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker A:So then Dan's phone rings after he gets off the phone with Sam.
Speaker A:And who's on the other line?
Speaker A:It's John.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, of course it is.
Speaker B:And this really was Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
Speaker B:He's just credited as like, a special guest star there.
Speaker B:So it really was him in this.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But also, like, at this point, I'm like, no, you're dead.
Speaker B:Just stay dead.
Speaker B:Why won't you just die?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so we get like, a very uncomfortable scene with the Sam and Dean talking about John's call.
Speaker A:And Dean's just really.
Speaker A:All Dean's really worried about is what he's going to say if dad calls back.
Speaker A:But they don't really show the conversation that happened at first.
Speaker A:So it's like, oh, is he just like, hey, hey, son.
Speaker A:Hi.
Speaker A:Connecting.
Speaker A:Like, they don't feel like a full, like, dialogue.
Speaker A:And then now Dean's just gonna obsess over when he calls back, so.
Speaker B:Well, I think this first call, he didn't say that much.
Speaker B:He said he just like.
Speaker B:All he got out was Dean's name.
Speaker B:And then the call dropped.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So that was all that was said during this.
Speaker B:That when Dean asked, like, Sam, like, well, what do I say?
Speaker B:Like, what do I say if I call back?
Speaker B:And Sam's like, hello.
Speaker B:Really pissed.
Speaker B:I'm like, no, that's pretty much what I would have said.
Speaker B:Like, that seems practical.
Speaker A:You have to say something.
Speaker A:So they're doing.
Speaker A:Sam's been researching and can't find any reason for something supernatural to be happening in this town.
Speaker A:And so, you know, and Dean makes a.
Speaker A:Makes some cracks about him.
Speaker A:Like they do blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:Well, basically he's.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's belittling him for having his.
Speaker A:Education because not being able to solve it.
Speaker B:What he was looking for in the motel brochure rack.
Speaker B:And then I was reminded how much I love a motel brochure.
Speaker A:Rack.
Speaker A:I mean, like there was one in a book I just read a minute ago.
Speaker A:Or like last week I just finished a minute ago.
Speaker A:A book I finished last week too.
Speaker A:And they're talking about motel brochure racks.
Speaker A:Man, I love a motel brochure.
Speaker B:Is it just because like I always like wish like I would have the parents so I'd be like, yes, we're going to check out the dinosaur balloon that's on.
Speaker B:You know, whatever like shitty roadside attraction was in there.
Speaker B:Like I would love to just to have like a week where I just like went to different motels with like, I don't even know if they still exist and picked one.
Speaker B:I just went in there and that was the place you went.
Speaker A:You know, it's probably a fucking QR code now.
Speaker A:Just boring.
Speaker B:And that's how you get malware.
Speaker B:So okay, so Deed has figured out that Milan, Ohio is not only the birthplace of Ohio fashion, but also the birthplace of Thomas Edison.
Speaker A:Thomas Thomas Edison.
Speaker B:Dun dun dun.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they go on a tour, an Edison themed tour which takes them to where they can see Thomas Edison's spirit phone.
Speaker A:And because according to this tour guide who likes to use air quotes a lot and is very, very tour guide y in general talks about how Thomas Edison was a devout occultist and created the spirit phone to connect with the dead.
Speaker B:So sorry Megan, or whoever you are or Becky, he never actually this or actually supernatural in general.
Speaker B:So Thomas Edison never actually finished the spirit phone.
Speaker B:He want really wanted to invent it largely because he was pissed at Tesla, which I just love.
Speaker B:I love their rivalry.
Speaker B:And Tesla had just invented the crystal radio and Thomas Edison was like, I will show you, I will talk to the dead.
Speaker B:So basically like Thomas this.
Speaker B:So even he was.
Speaker B:I mean this was spiritualism, right?
Speaker B:So we all love our spiritualists.
Speaker B:But he also thought that maybe spirits of living people were coherent units of energy that were stayed around when their bodies stopped working.
Speaker B:Which it was a theory that a lot of people have and I don't disagree with.
Speaker B:But he was never able to accomplish it.
Speaker B:I think he would happy to know.
Speaker B:At least now you can get a ghost phone, which according to Urban Dictionary is a cell phone that is unable to be tracked and it cannot be called back because number is private use mainly in the hood for brothers who ain't got no money to pay their contract bill or get got some minutes.
Speaker B:I have changed one word in this next description to bra because I can't say what originally said, but you will get the point.
Speaker B:So cuz one Says, who the hell is this calling me private?
Speaker B:Hello, cuz.
Speaker B:Two says, what up, bruh?
Speaker B:Cause one says, oh, what up, cuz?
Speaker B:Where are you calling me from?
Speaker B:Cause two, my ghost phone, bruh.
Speaker B:Cause one, One, can I call you back?
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Because two, hell no.
Speaker B:Wait till I get some minutes on my other phone or pay the bill.
Speaker B:Because when I.
Speaker B:So I tell them.
Speaker A:So basically, it's like a scam.
Speaker A:It's like a scammer.
Speaker A:Burner phone.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a burner phone that can't be traced.
Speaker B:It's kind of the idea.
Speaker B:I learned this because I was like, oh, maybe like, ghost phones or spirit phones would be an interesting thing to do for lore.
Speaker B:And then like, spirit phone just gets to a bunch of websites about, you know, mobile phones and ghost phones just go to this shit.
Speaker B:There's obviously ghost boxes, other stuff, but unfortunately, nobody has invented an actual working telephone.
Speaker B:There are a number of apps you can of course, install on your phone in order to hear ghosts, and we'll talk about those at a later date.
Speaker A:Oh, remind me not to install any of those.
Speaker B:I have.
Speaker B:Well, I had a couple in there.
Speaker B:Oh, they're.
Speaker B:They're mainly like emf, like the things they talk about, you know, they're Oculus.
Speaker A:Well, you can turn.
Speaker A:They have an app to make your phone EMF reader.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker B:Yeah, I have.
Speaker B:I have.
Speaker B:Well, I had that app on my phone.
Speaker B:Like, I put them on when I go in of go to, like, things like ghost hunts, and then I take them off as soon as I leave because I don't trust that shit.
Speaker B:All right, all right.
Speaker B:So Sam's got emf.
Speaker B:Like, not.
Speaker B:He doesn't have an EMF app.
Speaker B:He just has his EMF reader.
Speaker A:Actual reader.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:This is pre apps, probably, or pre widespread use of apps, but.
Speaker A:And nothing's happening.
Speaker A:So they're like, okay, maybe the spirit phone isn't the answer.
Speaker B:But Dean also thinks, well, maybe it's like, broadcasting the debt.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:This is what he's doing, like, and he's like, just trying to come up with anything because.
Speaker A:Grasping at straws because he got a call from John.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And his hopes are so high up.
Speaker B:And at first we think it's just because it's John.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:We started to see Dean starting to get unhealthily attached to whatever is happening.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't necessarily agree with how Sam handles it, but.
Speaker B:But it's not good.
Speaker B:Dean.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:So this next scene is extremely upsetting.
Speaker A:Oh, excuse me.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:We go to the first.
Speaker A:We go to.
Speaker A:Well, we'll get back.
Speaker B:This seems upsetting too, I guess.
Speaker A:Yeah, it is.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:I almost skipped over, but Dean stays up late while Sam goes to bed.
Speaker A:And John calls and asks Dean how he could have done it, how could he sell his soul and that he knows a way out of the contract.
Speaker A:The demon who holds your contract is.
Speaker A:Is there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So beyond just, you know, the shitty, shitty Johnny Ness that's coming out of this, I think we're also showing this is why Dean, you know, Dean is led to believe that this is real.
Speaker B:Because obviously the, like, he knows this shit about Dean.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, I mean, I would be like, okay, yeah, I guess this is John, like, yeah, it would make sense to me right now we're going to cut to Lainey.
Speaker A:So upsetting.
Speaker B:Who is on an I AM program that I can't.
Speaker B:Is it.
Speaker B:Is it.
Speaker B:It's not Instant Messenger.
Speaker B:It's not aol.
Speaker B:I don't think.
Speaker B:I couldn't figure out which one it was.
Speaker B:But she's not a chat program.
Speaker A:Yeah, something like that.
Speaker A:And she gets an IM from SHA33, which is.
Speaker A:This is also.
Speaker B:I say SHA33, and you say SHA33.
Speaker B:We call them Shot 256.
Speaker B:I'm like, SHA33.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And she asks if it's her mom.
Speaker A:And she said, I asked you a question last night.
Speaker A:Have you thought about it?
Speaker A:It's what the other person says is that Shaw.
Speaker A:S H A. Shaw33 says, I want to see you.
Speaker A:And then he's like.
Speaker A:We have this dialogue where she's like, I went to the cemetery.
Speaker A:You asked me to go to the cemetery.
Speaker A:That's where you see me.
Speaker A:So I went to the cemetery.
Speaker A:Because that's where you're buried, Mom.
Speaker A:Like, duh.
Speaker A:And then the screen goes black, the webcam turns on.
Speaker A:On.
Speaker A:And you see Lainey sitting there.
Speaker A:And on this, on the monitor, you see a woman assumed to be her mother standing behind her.
Speaker A:And this is where I started getting freaked out, as did Lainey, to be fair.
Speaker A:To be fair.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So she turns over her shoulder and there's no one there.
Speaker A:She's freaking out.
Speaker A:So she turns the monitor off, jumps away, and she's really upset.
Speaker A:Her dead mom is hanging out over her shoulder on the computer screen and talking to.
Speaker A:To her and saying to come to, you know, saying she wanted to see her.
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden, the screen comes back on once again back.
Speaker A:Like you said, the freaky like, shit that's off turning on.
Speaker A:On its own dislike.
Speaker A:And it just starts saying, come to me over and over again.
Speaker A:And I was like, oh, it looks like a DOS screen.
Speaker B:Or a terminal.
Speaker B:So, so basically Laney has gotten cyber bullied by her dead mom to kill herself.
Speaker A:And because now we know that this means that.
Speaker A:Come to me.
Speaker A:That means best.
Speaker A:That's what fucking Linda said to Ben.
Speaker A:And now we got fucking.
Speaker A:And then we got.
Speaker B:And now we've got ghost cat.
Speaker B:So ghost hacker cat is just stuck on her keyboard and it's doing this.
Speaker B:And nobody can see my hands with Diana, but it's doing hacker cat hands.
Speaker B:And it's like, come to me.
Speaker B:So she has a ghost cat in a room who has taken over.
Speaker B:Yeah, everyone loves a ghost cat.
Speaker B:Ghost cat, yeah.
Speaker B:All right, so we're going to cut to the hotel.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Sam wants to go check on Lainey because he, as sweet as that, is that he's worried about her because she's upset.
Speaker A:Also, at the same time, he needs to not hang around with teenage girls by himself.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:As well, actually.
Speaker B:He makes a.
Speaker B:Basically calls him Chris Hansen.
Speaker B:And I always love a Catcher Predator reference,.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, well, Dad's right.
Speaker A:There have demons here, so I gotta go find it.
Speaker A:There's been all these meteorological.
Speaker A:Meteorological meet.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:I can't say it.
Speaker B:Electrical storage storms.
Speaker A:Meteorological.
Speaker B:Say.
Speaker B:Let's just say electrical storms.
Speaker A:Electrical storms, meteorological.
Speaker B:Here,.
Speaker A:I got it at once.
Speaker A:That's what we got.
Speaker A:I'm not even drinking tonight, man.
Speaker A:So anyways, so he's like, no, I gotta wait for dad to call and tell me where the demon is.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:This is it.
Speaker A:This is totally what's happening.
Speaker A:You go check on the teenage chick.
Speaker A:Because that's not awkward.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:And also, I mean, so John has basically said, like, we've got this exorcism and it can kill demons.
Speaker B:And everyone's like, yeah, we've all looked at this, right?
Speaker B:Like, Bobby.
Speaker B:Like, Bobby's looked at it.
Speaker B:We've all looked at it.
Speaker B:It's like, no, no, it's real.
Speaker B:We just don't know if we can kill demons.
Speaker A:So it does what it's actually going to do.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Like what happens to the demon?
Speaker A:Like, nobody fucking knows.
Speaker A:This is like some ancient ass exorcism that Don just told Dean about on the phone in the middle of the night from the.
Speaker B:I do feel like this is a thread that I feel is left unfold.
Speaker B:Like, I want to know what this.
Speaker B:And we'll get to later.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But was this.
Speaker B:Could this exorcism actually kill demons?
Speaker B:I don't know yet.
Speaker A:That could be a game changer.
Speaker B:It could be.
Speaker A:All right, but the whole thing is they don't really usually want.
Speaker A:Usually they're doing an exorcism.
Speaker A:It usually means that the demon is possessing a human body, and usually they're trying to save the human life.
Speaker A:So they usually wouldn't want to kill.
Speaker B:Anyways, but they're not killing the body.
Speaker B:They're killing.
Speaker A:How do you know if the demon that's possessing that might both might die if they don't know that much about it?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:It sounds like we need some demons and some humans to experiment on.
Speaker B:Oh, that Next.
Speaker A:Moving on, moving on, moving on.
Speaker A:So, yeah, and Sam and Dean, of course, get into it and are both accusing each other of being too in on their own issues with their dad.
Speaker A:And there we go.
Speaker A:And Dean basically admits that he's clinging to blind faith because that's all he's got.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But as, like, Sam was leaving to go be a perv with an underage girl, we do actually get a really nice.
Speaker B:Like, you really see the.
Speaker B:The cosmic stars that are in this motel, and they're fucking awesome.
Speaker A:So really good Starburst.
Speaker A:It's called, like, the Starburst Motel, I think, too.
Speaker A:But, yeah, really cute motel.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:So Sam talks to Lainey and.
Speaker B:Yeah, so Sam talks to Lainey, and I'm going to read you word for word what I said, because out of context, this sounds like a PSA or an after school special.
Speaker B:All right, so Laney says.
Speaker B:Says nothing happened.
Speaker B:So they're talking about, like, you know, Sam's like, yeah, what's going on?
Speaker B:And Lainey says, nothing happened.
Speaker B:But then she started asking me to do other things.
Speaker B:Sam.
Speaker B:What sort of things, Lainey?
Speaker B:Bad things.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So your mom is the bad kid after school telling you to do things you're not supposed to do.
Speaker A:Or the boy.
Speaker A:Or the boy happening.
Speaker B:Like, they're like, there's.
Speaker B:I was like, what the is this.
Speaker B:This dialogue?
Speaker A:Very, very weird writing.
Speaker A:Weird writing.
Speaker B:Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker B:And I was like, my note says that I accidentally start watching Law and Order svu.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And then, like, but her response like, what am I going to tell my dad?
Speaker A:If I tell him what I think is happening, then I don't a. I don't want to bother him, but if I do, then he's just going to chuck me into therapy, which is probably accurate.
Speaker B:Yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker B:You're not wrong at all.
Speaker B:All right, so we're going to cut.
Speaker A:But then the creepy thing happens in her little brother's room.
Speaker A:Room down the hall while they're having this conversation.
Speaker A:And his little toy phone rings.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:Little like Fisher Price phone ringing.
Speaker A:And the mother tell.
Speaker A:It's the mom again.
Speaker A:And she tells this little boy Simon that she wants to see him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:This is just upsetting.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:And so we're.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:We're getting a bunch of cuts here.
Speaker A:So we're gonna catch our jump around.
Speaker B:In staring at his phone.
Speaker B:And it rings.
Speaker B:We cut back to Lainey, and she's telling Sam that mom wanted herself with sleeping pills.
Speaker B:And Sam finally picks up on something.
Speaker A:And when she said, come to me, and he goes, that's not your mother.
Speaker A:So now we know at this point because we trust.
Speaker A:Because I trust Sam on this because this is fucked up.
Speaker A:And I don't think that people's loved ones would be telling them to kill themselves.
Speaker A:Just saying that.
Speaker A:Now we do.
Speaker B:You're in a cult.
Speaker A:That too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or just a very toxic relationship.
Speaker A:So not good.
Speaker B:Not good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:We now loved one.
Speaker B:He'll tell you to do that.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:So we as the viewer at this point, finally really truly know, because we were.
Speaker A:I think we were suspicious as a viewer, but I think at this point we know that this is not the loved ones.
Speaker A:Something else is going on to communicate with these people about in the form of their loved ones, which is real fucked up.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker A:Dean basically promised Sam that he wouldn't go out by himself.
Speaker A:But now he's going.
Speaker A:Now he's out by trunk team.
Speaker B:Trunk.
Speaker A:Hey, trunk.
Speaker A:To get a duffel bag and go off on his own to do shit he probably shouldn't do.
Speaker A:So, yeah, here we go.
Speaker A:Back and forth.
Speaker A:Sam tells Lainey, just stay away from your phone and your computer.
Speaker A:And then she's like, I'll fuck with my brother.
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker B:And, you know, says, simon's missing.
Speaker B:And at this point, I was like, man, I really love it.
Speaker B:I hate the name Simon for a little boy.
Speaker B:This is where my second round of theraflu today started kicking in, like, really hard.
Speaker B:And I started pontificating on the.
Speaker B:The name Simon.
Speaker B:And I was like, you know, because there's like seven cow, and I don't like a Simon cow, but a little boy named Simon.
Speaker B:They just have like, a British little kid that, like, is off to, like, eat some pie.
Speaker B:So unfortunately, this little Simon decides that he wants to walk in Front of a truck.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He wants to go play in traffic.
Speaker B:And Sam saves him.
Speaker A:And Sam does, barely.
Speaker A:But while this is going and the truck stop, like, not even, like, I think I would, like, panicked and like, at least thought like, oh, my God, are you okay?
Speaker B:I want to make sure, like, because I would be like, oh, this is my fault.
Speaker B:I didn't see the kid in the road.
Speaker A:I did walk out in the middle of traffic.
Speaker A:I'm just.
Speaker B:He did what?
Speaker B:He did walk out.
Speaker B:But my natural instinct is, oh, shit.
Speaker B:I don't want to get blamed for this.
Speaker B:Let me stop.
Speaker A:Is everybody okay?
Speaker B:Did I.
Speaker B:Did I hit a small child?
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:I guess he's been saved.
Speaker B:I'm just going to keep on tracking.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is that where trip on tracking comes?
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:And as this is all going on, we get clips back and forth where Dean is in this very dark house and he's mixing up holy water.
Speaker A:He's drawing spray paint and devil's traps.
Speaker A:Basically, he's setting a trap for a demon in general in this house.
Speaker A:So we get to Sam on the phone with Dean now explaining that it's not dad, It's a crocodile.
Speaker B:It's a crocodile.
Speaker B:But with.
Speaker B:Obviously, the natural response Dean has is, is that a sandwich, which is, you know, a croquette.
Speaker B:And I'm like, want a croquette, like, so bad.
Speaker B:You know why?
Speaker B:Because it's a deep fried sandwich.
Speaker A:A croque madame.
Speaker A:Like, I'm like, what?
Speaker B:There's a croque monsieur.
Speaker B:There's so many types of bread that.
Speaker B:Filled with meat and cheese that you can deep fry and hand it to me.
Speaker B:And I'm like, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker B:I want to learn about this.
Speaker B:And Sam's like, no, no.
Speaker B:It's some kind of scavenger.
Speaker B:Mimics loved ones.
Speaker B:Whispers, come to me.
Speaker B:Then lures you in the dark and swallows your soul.
Speaker A:Just really dark and sad that it mimics your loved ones and it fucking kill you.
Speaker A:But also.
Speaker A:So here's.
Speaker A:We don't really get, like, a distinct answer.
Speaker A:I don't think in this episode.
Speaker A:Maybe I missed it somehow in that conclusion.
Speaker A:But I will say that it wants you to come to them, but it doesn't.
Speaker A:I mean, like, obviously it's.
Speaker A:You're going to die when it takes your soul.
Speaker A:But, like, the suicide part seems just like, extra.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't.
Speaker A:I didn't feel like that part was explained.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:Or is he just like a big sadistic asshole that just likes people doing that and then taking their soul?
Speaker B:I don't know, I think that's something that may get left in this episode.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:But also, the Dean on the phone is very accepting.
Speaker B:And unless you're an idiot, you're like, wait, really?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:He's like, okay, cool.
Speaker B:That makes sense.
Speaker B:I'm like, what?
Speaker B:Like, no, Sam, you're not this stupid.
Speaker A:The other thing about the crocodiles is that they like to live in filth, which ties back to the flies and the grossness at the phone company.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And so we're going to cut back to porn, Stewie.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And then also, Sam tries to call Dean, and Dean's voicemail says that he was Herman Munster.
Speaker A:He does say Herman Muster made me very happy.
Speaker A:We still need to go to the Munster house.
Speaker B:We do, we do.
Speaker B:And we'll talk about that afterwards.
Speaker B:Yeah, okay.
Speaker A:Anyways, there's a Munster House in Waxahachie we'll talk about another time.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:So Sam's at the phone company by himself, sneaking up on.
Speaker A:On Greasy.
Speaker A:Stewie tries to call Sam or Dean, obviously misses him, but.
Speaker A:So Sam's like, straight up, like, attacks Greasy in the parking lot.
Speaker A:He's like, I know what you are.
Speaker A:And Gracie's, like, made some like, like crack about getting charged overcharged for call waiting, which also made me laugh because it dates this a little bit as well, because call waiting is just like.
Speaker B:There was this thing called call waiting.
Speaker B:So what it was is, like, on your phone phone, you like.
Speaker B:And it was a really big deal because you have, like, more than one person call in.
Speaker B:So, like, then your line wouldn't go busy when somebody tried to call you.
Speaker B:And so this was something that my parents would not pay for.
Speaker B:And if they hadn't been such cheap bastards, I wouldn't have been able to take the phone off the hook and sneak out of the house all the times that I did.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:You should have paid for this.
Speaker B:You cheat bitches.
Speaker A:You know, so I did.
Speaker A:Was the master.
Speaker A:The mastery of the call we waiting was that you would call.
Speaker A:You'd schedule for someone to call you at a specific time, and you'd call time and temperature or like.
Speaker A:Or mute movies.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:And so you just, like, sit and, like, listen to some dumb.
Speaker A:And then, like.
Speaker A:And then the other.
Speaker A:The call waiting would beep in, and then you'd flip over the other line and talk to the person you actually wanted to talk to.
Speaker A:The key was making sure that if the other line stayed live, like, if the.
Speaker A:If the recording, like the time and time or whatever.
Speaker B:Okay, so then you.
Speaker B:Diana.
Speaker B:Diana is Talking about another technique.
Speaker B:So Diana's technique was, in order, that you cannot have a number come up on caller id and you could talk to somebody you weren't supposed to talk to.
Speaker A:And the phone was ringing, and the phone wouldn't ring.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And my technique was.
Speaker B:Well, that was also that way you can have someone call you late because you weren't supposed to be on the phone after 10.
Speaker B:So that was also a good way for you to be able to get phone calls after a certain time.
Speaker B:And the things we went through.
Speaker B:Kids like, you don't even know.
Speaker B:You don't know.
Speaker A:So this is before, like, barely that.
Speaker A:We barely had Internet chat then.
Speaker A:So don't even start.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker B:Because that shit costs $10aminute, so.
Speaker B:All right, so San is about to kill Stewie, and then he gets hit over the head with a baseball bat.
Speaker B:I kept getting, like, you hit him in the head with the wiffle ball bat.
Speaker A:And then it's.
Speaker A:It's fucking Clark.
Speaker A:And he hits Gracie.
Speaker A:Stewie as well.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Also before that, like, Stewie did a very unsportsman, like, dance for the phone company.
Speaker B:Like, he's just like, yeah, don't fuck with the phone company.
Speaker B:And then he called Sam a dill weed.
Speaker B:And I was like, that's an insult.
Speaker B:You don't hear that often anymore.
Speaker B:Like, let's bring dill weed back.
Speaker B:Like, there's a number of people out there right now, like, all of you who are handling all this COVID testing and shit.
Speaker B:Y' all are a bunch of dillweights.
Speaker B:That is what you are.
Speaker B:All right, so Clark hits the other one with a baseball bat.
Speaker B:And we're gonna cut them to Sam and Stewie.
Speaker B:They're tied up, and he's crying.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Clark's very proud of himself.
Speaker A:She's like, so Sam's now like, well, obviously, Stewie's not part of this shit.
Speaker A:Let him go.
Speaker A:And he's like, yeah, but I only had salad for lunch, and I'm starving.
Speaker A:So he stabs fucking Stewie and eats his soul.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:A couple of things here.
Speaker B:One.
Speaker B:First off, so what?
Speaker B:Stewie was just gross?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He was under a thrall.
Speaker B:Like, there was no throw.
Speaker B:He was just gross.
Speaker B:Like, that's.
Speaker A:That was just.
Speaker B:It's almost worse.
Speaker B:Like, you're just that shitty of a person.
Speaker B:You're just icky.
Speaker B:Also, so we see, like, Clark's nasty teeth.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:It's very upsetting.
Speaker A:And, like, they don't really show, like, how it happens.
Speaker A:Like, how it works.
Speaker A:Like, so with the vampires, even though I hate the fucking vampire teeth in supernatural lore.
Speaker A:Sorry, I'll say it again, I will continue saying it forever.
Speaker A:But you do kind of see like how they come out like the.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:But Clark's teeth just kind of like appear.
Speaker A:And I guess that's because he's more of like a.
Speaker A:He's less, he's a less humanoid of a creature but he's, he's a kryptoid.
Speaker B:So but really like with the way they are explaining it in the lore, he's just sucking his soul.
Speaker B:So why do you need the teeth?
Speaker B:Like you could just have a little sucker or something.
Speaker B:And I'm going to talk to you.
Speaker A:About his mouth opens really big about.
Speaker B:The carcass or the croquette.
Speaker B:And they actually sound rather adorable.
Speaker B:So we're going to talk a little bit about some more here.
Speaker B:A long time because not a lot.
Speaker B:So more.
Speaker B:All right, so the crocodile or coricata or crocodile or luricotta or yena.
Speaker B:And this is according, this first part is according to the Cryptid Wiki.
Speaker B:So it is described as a mythical dog wolf.
Speaker B:And they originally, these come from India as well as Ethiopia.
Speaker B:And it has, okay, the body of an extremely large dog dog, sometimes as large as a mule.
Speaker B:Its head resembles that of a hyena and it has cloven hooves, a horse like mane and a tail that resembles that of the lion.
Speaker B:Its fur ranges from oranges yellow to brownish black and includes spots or stripes resembling a hyena or a tiger.
Speaker B:It's sometimes depicted without teeth, but they often say but bones used to crush a spray.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, Crypto Wiki.
Speaker B:I think you need to edit that.
Speaker B:Edit.
Speaker B:I don't know if that means.
Speaker B:But it sounds kind of cute, right?
Speaker B:You got a really big ass dog.
Speaker A:It's a giant puppy dog with lion tail.
Speaker B:He's got a sassy maid.
Speaker B:Like he sounds pretty awesome.
Speaker B:Croquette Clark.
Speaker B:No, you did not look like this at all.
Speaker B:Like you.
Speaker B:You just look like a man with some fucking teeth and some.
Speaker A:With some weird spiky piranha teeth and a jaw that unhinges.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's, that's something like this.
Speaker B:Like I'm reading this.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:No, no, this sounds like an adorable.
Speaker A:I feel cheap.
Speaker A:Cheated.
Speaker B:I feel cheated.
Speaker B:And according to mythologyplanet.com, the crocodile is believed to be able to change its color at will in order to blend into its surroundings and launch devastating attacks on its prey.
Speaker B:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:But like it's like a chameleon dog.
Speaker B:I mean, that sounds fucking badass.
Speaker B:Like, I want chameleon dog.
Speaker A:A giant chameleon dog too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Mythology Planet does say that it has long sharp teeth that can kill a human in seconds and is also said to have incredibly fast digestion and instantly consumes and digesting all that it eats.
Speaker B:Which sounds like an evolutionary win to me.
Speaker B:I mean, God, man, can you imagine if you just ate all the tacos and then immediately like, you felt fine?
Speaker B:Yeah, like, like, should I have the third taco?
Speaker B:Would never be a question again.
Speaker B:I would always be like, yes, I'm gonna have that third taco.
Speaker B:Everything also, I think it's very modern.
Speaker B:According to many tales, it can.
Speaker B:It's a genderless modern being.
Speaker B:It can shift between the different genders that will.
Speaker B:So it's very, very modern.
Speaker B:Good for you.
Speaker B:It has the ability to mimic human speech and will use this power to lure victims to it, usually by pretending to be someone in trouble or someone they know.
Speaker B:They can use the voice of the victim recognizes and they'll call the victim by name or include other personal information, the cry for help.
Speaker B:So that's kind of lighting with what we're seeing here.
Speaker A:Slightly less dark version, though.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's slightly less dark.
Speaker B:Unfortunately, it's got no unusual vulnerabilities or powers.
Speaker B:Poor crocottas.
Speaker B:They can survive in any climate or terrain as long as a lot of food.
Speaker B:So we're going to find them in a lot of places where herd animals are so sheep, cattle, deer, those type of places.
Speaker B:I also saw jungles and rainforests.
Speaker B:In terms of sightings, they're.
Speaker B:They're supposed to be coming from India and Ethiopia.
Speaker B:Don't get the end of this with why.
Speaker B:But I saw one thing, like in the United States, they're typically here in Texas and Oklahoma.
Speaker B:So maybe we'll get to see one pass.
Speaker B:Yeah, one thought.
Speaker B:One thought was, is that they're said to have animal level intelligence and the mimicry is like that of a parrot.
Speaker B:But that because they can mimic voices known to the victim, makes other researchers to believe they have some kind of rudimentary form of telepathic gothic ability.
Speaker A:There.
Speaker B:These have shown up in like very, very ancient history.
Speaker B:In the Augustan history, the.
Speaker B:So that's Pius, something like year 10 to year 9.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Oh, sorry.
Speaker B:AD 148, the Emperor Antonius presented a crocodile that basically was from an Indian species.
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker B:That was when they were introduced to Rome the first time.
Speaker B:It has the color of a lioness and T combined and the general appearance of those animals as also of a dog and a fox, curiously blended.
Speaker B:There is a Byzantine scholar who said, in Ethiopia, there is an amazing animal called crocodiles.
Speaker B:Vulgarly.
Speaker B:Vulgarly, I cannot say that word.
Speaker B:But it translates to dog, wolf, and looks like kind of locos.
Speaker B:Something Greek.
Speaker B:Fuck you, Greek.
Speaker B:So yours should be easier.
Speaker B:Of amazing strength.
Speaker B:It is said to imitate the human voice, to call men by name at night, and to devour those who are praying.
Speaker B:Approach it.
Speaker B:It is brave as a lion, as swift as a horse, and as strong as a bull.
Speaker B:It cannot be overcome by any type of seal.
Speaker B:A seal, not seals.
Speaker B:Maybe a seal can overcome it.
Speaker B:So, really, like, the most common theory about why these cryptoids are known is that they were hyenas.
Speaker B:And this is how people were attempting to explain what a hyena looks like.
Speaker B:Huh.
Speaker B:What should you think about it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Kind of sounds like a hyena.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is that the big part?
Speaker B:Unless, like, maybe there was a time where hyenas, like, maybe there was, like, a species of hyena that were bigger.
Speaker A:Bigger hyenas.
Speaker A:Yeah, because usually they're, like, smaller than a large dog, right?
Speaker B:I mean, yeah, they look like they're, like, dingo size.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Maybe a hyena ate your baby.
Speaker A:Like, coyote size.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And coyote size.
Speaker A:We see those around here.
Speaker B:That's how in law was a coyote.
Speaker B:Yip.
Speaker A:I did it too long.
Speaker A:Come join me in the Howling.
Speaker B:So we're gonna go back to who now, whose name is now just Croquette Clark.
Speaker B:Because I'm not saying crocodile anymore.
Speaker B:It sounds weird.
Speaker B:And I just want to think about croquettes.
Speaker A:So, okay.
Speaker A:And his face gets real glowy when he eats Stewie's face.
Speaker A:So he's.
Speaker A:So his face eats his soul out of his mouth.
Speaker A:But he, like.
Speaker A:So he's got this unhinged jaw, these crazy, like, spiky teeth, and then his face is glowing.
Speaker A:It's very weird.
Speaker A:I was very uncomfortable with it.
Speaker A:But also, the actor did a really good job, I'm going to say, on this part.
Speaker A:Real fast, real quick observation.
Speaker A:I thought he did a really good job moving in a very reptilian way.
Speaker A:I felt his body language changed dramatically from Clark to Croquette.
Speaker A:Croquette Clark.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So anyway, so I thought that was really interesting.
Speaker A:Good, good acting move.
Speaker A:Anyways, so.
Speaker A:And this is when Sam has the revelation that when he called Dean to tell Dean that, hey, that was not actually dad, that he didn't actually get ahold of Dean at All the call didn't go through to Dean.
Speaker A:It was Clark on the other end of the phone that led Sam there and that.
Speaker A:And Clark's very proud of himself.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then he goes and like, caresses the phone network for a minute and saying things.
Speaker A:I'm killing your brother.
Speaker A:Or maybe another guy.
Speaker A:We'll just see him up to it.
Speaker B:Okay, hold on, hold on.
Speaker B:So I want to make sure I'm in the right spot.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Have we gotten to wait?
Speaker B:My thing is maybe out of order.
Speaker B:Okay, have we gotten to the part where he explains how he put John together yet?
Speaker B:Did you skip in your notes?
Speaker A:No, we haven't gotten that yet.
Speaker A:Okay, we're out to cut.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Yeah, I just have one line for this.
Speaker B:This is why I'm like, oh, yeah.
Speaker B:All my line is this.
Speaker B:Clark makes love to the switchboard.
Speaker A:Yes, he does.
Speaker A:He's caressing and like, really, like, really up on it.
Speaker A:And then we cut to a police locker room.
Speaker A:And this guy's cell phone rings.
Speaker A:And we see his, like, inside his locker and had.
Speaker A:Had some, like.
Speaker A:He had decorated his locker like a junior high girl does, but with like, more.
Speaker A:More gun stuff.
Speaker B:I'm assuming it's a cop locker room.
Speaker A:That's what I thought.
Speaker A:That's what I read into it as.
Speaker A:And on the phone a little.
Speaker A:You hear a little girl voice say, hello, Daddy.
Speaker A:And the guy looks really upset.
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh, shit.
Speaker A:This guy's daughter's dead and she's calling him.
Speaker A:That's fucked.
Speaker A:That's my immediate thought.
Speaker A:So he says, I thought you weren't going to call anymore.
Speaker A:And she tells him that she knows who killed her.
Speaker A:And the killer is at the house now.
Speaker A:And I wrote down, oh, fuck.
Speaker A:Their Croquette set D up.
Speaker B:He did.
Speaker B:He did.
Speaker B:He's gonna make a D sandwich.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he's trying to make.
Speaker A:He's setting up for this guy to bust in and find Dean in his house.
Speaker A:And this guy kill Dean.
Speaker A:Or this guy kill.
Speaker B:Or Sorry.
Speaker A:Or Dean killed this guy just for funsies.
Speaker A:Because he thinks that this guy's the demon.
Speaker B:That's fucked up.
Speaker A:Anyways, so Sam and Clark continue talking.
Speaker A:And Clark's like, yeah, it was really easy for me to figure out you were hunters.
Speaker A:You'd be.
Speaker A:And he goes, you'd be surprised at how much of yourself is just floating out there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B: So, okay, so this was: Speaker B:So this, what John.
Speaker B:What he says about the Croquette says about the fake John is kind of like the First.
Speaker B:Not the first, but obviously it's a.
Speaker B:Hey, guys, why don't you start thinking about all the information that you're putting out there?
Speaker B:And he is like, I found Dean's number, then your number, then your father's numbers, then emails and voicemails and everything.
Speaker B:You see, people think that stuff just gets erased, but it doesn't.
Speaker B:You'd be surprised at how much yourself is just floating out there, waiting to be placed.
Speaker B:Flopped.
Speaker A:Ew.
Speaker A:And I. I will say that my comment to Self when he said, you'd be surprised to.
Speaker A:How much is just floating out there.
Speaker A:Nah, that's right.
Speaker B:And I'm friends with Liz.
Speaker B:She tells me about all my shit that's out there.
Speaker B:And then I wish you would stop telling me.
Speaker A:Well, and like.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:I mean, it is something that's true.
Speaker A:And I think that some of this is kind of interesting if you've got.
Speaker A:I don't know, like.
Speaker A:I don't know, whatever.
Speaker A:Anyway, that's a whole other thing.
Speaker A:I know, obviously, Liz has a.
Speaker A:A great depth of knowledge in cybersecurity, and I do not.
Speaker A:But I have been around people for a long time, and some of my knowledge about that time, about that type of stuff, is actually very dated and is even older than the show.
Speaker A:Like when I knew people that were really into following cybersecurity shit.
Speaker A:So it's kind of interesting seeing the phone stuff.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker B:You knew hackers, the people who were following cybersecurity shit.
Speaker B:Diana was fucking hackers is what she was doing.
Speaker B:All right, so let's get away from Diana's.
Speaker A:It was the night 90s.
Speaker A:I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker A:Anyway,.
Speaker B:All right, so we're gonna cut to the house and Dean.
Speaker B:Holy water.
Speaker A:Anyway, so, yeah, we.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, dean's not gonna fall for it.
Speaker A:Dean's gonna fucking fall for it.
Speaker A:Duh.
Speaker A:But Sam is trying to make his escape.
Speaker A:So Dean's got the holy water ready.
Speaker A:Here's the guy pull up to the house, he's fucking ready.
Speaker A:But the guy gets the jump on him because the guy's looking for somebody in his house because his dead daughter called him in the morning.
Speaker A:Him.
Speaker B:Yeah, this is not good.
Speaker A:The holy water gets spilled.
Speaker A:Well, the guy got.
Speaker A:The guy tried the cop.
Speaker A:I said the cop.
Speaker A:Cop busts in and shoots shotgun at Dean.
Speaker B:Dean just starts blasting.
Speaker A:Just starts blasting.
Speaker A:Just starts blasting.
Speaker A:Luckily, he misses.
Speaker A:And Dean's holy water spills.
Speaker A:And he's real bummed, but he's able to Rush the guy.
Speaker A:And also I'm very.
Speaker A:Why does everyone just have two shot shotguns in these.
Speaker A:In this series?
Speaker B:They're all like.
Speaker A:They're all like, breach.
Speaker B:Everybody has a. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker B:Everyone has a double barrel, not an automatic.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker B:I'm like, why?
Speaker A:I mean, why.
Speaker A:Why have Sam and Dean not gotten like a. Oh, my God, I just got the word for it.
Speaker A:The round, the barrel.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:The.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:You can get the auto shotgun that's got the big.
Speaker B:You can get a semi automatic.
Speaker A:You can.
Speaker B:Yeah, you can get this.
Speaker B:Yeah, the big fed.
Speaker A:Like a fed shotgun.
Speaker A:They could put the rocks, the rock salt shit in that.
Speaker B: Anyways, that's my: Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Anyways, so they're fighting, kicking, and then we're going to cut back to Croquette.
Speaker B:Clark, who is giving.
Speaker B:Who's giving Sam what I'm calling the Shark Tank pitch for Doordash.
Speaker B:And he was like, I used to hide in the wood for days, weeks, whispering to people, trying to draw them out in the night.
Speaker B:But they had the community all looked out for each other.
Speaker B:I'd be lucky to eat one or two souls a year.
Speaker B:Now when I'm hungry, hungry, I simply make a phone call.
Speaker B:You're also connected, but you've never been so alone.
Speaker B:And I'm like, oh, this is Doordash.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:What you're.
Speaker B:You just like, yes.
Speaker B:And I'm like, I don't.
Speaker B:I. I feel very connected to whoever brings me food.
Speaker A:See, I thought that line.
Speaker A:That line, like, kind of gave me the heebie jeebies.
Speaker A:And I thought it was really accurate in a lot of ways and.
Speaker A:And scary and sad.
Speaker A:Even though this was, you know, 13 years ago.
Speaker B:And he's not wrong.
Speaker A:But also connected.
Speaker A:But you've never been so alone.
Speaker A:But this.
Speaker A:Yeah, you are also connected, but you've never been so alone.
Speaker B:Who knew Supernatural predicted that we were just gonna be able to pick up our phone and order food.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Maybe that's where they got the idea.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And he's really the teeth again.
Speaker A:He's got his creepy fucking teeth out.
Speaker A:He's about to stab Sam.
Speaker A:But Sam has managed to free himself and untie his hands in the meantime.
Speaker A:And they start fighting.
Speaker A:So we cut back to Dean and the cops still fight.
Speaker A:And Dean tries to trap him on the Devil's Trap.
Speaker A:It starts, the exorcism.
Speaker A:But the guy's like, what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker B:Why'd you Kill my daughter?
Speaker B:Yeah, in the Latin, I'm pretty sure he invoked Draco Malfoy.
Speaker B:And so I really need to figure out what the fuck Draco is in Latin, if you know.
Speaker B:I mean, I know I could Google it, but Be more fun if somebody told me what Draco means in Latin, but I heard Draco, So I think Draco Malfoy is how you kill a demon.
Speaker A:Maybe that is.
Speaker A:So the guy's just like, why are you here?
Speaker A:Why are you?
Speaker A:Why did you do this to my daughter?
Speaker A:And Dean's like, the fuck?
Speaker A:And he's like this.
Speaker A:And he's like, oh, shit, this is a mistake.
Speaker A:Something.
Speaker A:And this is where Dean.
Speaker A:It dawns on Dean that something is not right and he's not supposed to be here.
Speaker A:So finally, Sam and Clark are still fighting for the dagger.
Speaker A:I'm gonna tell you, this is a really fucked up death scene.
Speaker A:I'm just gonna say it, like, to the point where I rewound it and made Babe come in and watch it with me after I'd seen it once.
Speaker A:So, like, babe, this is fucked.
Speaker A:You gotta come watch this.
Speaker A:It was really fucked up.
Speaker A:They did a huge buildup as they slow as Sam is sl.
Speaker A:Inching Clark's head back to the peg.
Speaker A:The long pegboard hook.
Speaker A:And slowly closer and closer.
Speaker A:And then just, like, flat hand to his face, like, shoves his head onto it.
Speaker B:Looks like.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, that was.
Speaker B:That was a fucked up dusty.
Speaker A:I mean, it was pretty cool.
Speaker A:It was kind of.
Speaker A:It was kind of cool.
Speaker B:No, it was amazing.
Speaker B:But disgusting.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right, so Sam.
Speaker B:This is Sam.
Speaker B:So Dean and the dad are still fighting until Dean finally, like, butts him in the head with a shotgun.
Speaker A:And the guy's like, I didn't kill your daughter.
Speaker A:And then, why are you here?
Speaker A:And Dean says, I don't know.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's really depressing.
Speaker B:And we're gonna cut back to the.
Speaker A:Guys and they're both.
Speaker A:They both look way, like they both got their asses kicked.
Speaker A:Which they did.
Speaker B:They did.
Speaker B:They did.
Speaker B:And they start talking through things and we finally get to.
Speaker B:You know, I don't.
Speaker B:Like, we went through this whole episode to get to this one little one minute part.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So exhausting.
Speaker B:But Dean admits that he's scared, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, he missed.
Speaker A:He's scared and he's desperate and.
Speaker A:But he also can't expect dad to just show up.
Speaker A:And he's got to depend.
Speaker A:But I've got to depend on myself to figure a way out and give this little poignant speech.
Speaker A:And Sam comes with.
Speaker A:And me.
Speaker B:Well, yeah.
Speaker B:Zane's like, I mean, the only person that get me out of this thing is me and Sam.
Speaker B:Sam's like, and me.
Speaker B:And then Dean starts busting his balls, which is how you should handle emotions appropriately.
Speaker B:It's a good on you, Dean.
Speaker B:And so he's just like, mb.
Speaker B:And Sam's like, what?
Speaker B:And he's like, what?
Speaker B:I mean like, do you have like, you're having a moment here.
Speaker B:That's what you come back with.
Speaker B:And me and Sam asked him if he wants a poem.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, no, the moment's gone.
Speaker A:And they have a beer and watch tv.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:And then they show more of them badass Starburst Motel.
Speaker A:Which is called the Starburst Motel.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a pretty hotel.
Speaker B:I like it.
Speaker B:Lots of mid century modern stuff.
Speaker B:But yeah, that's it.
Speaker A:This episode was real scary and up.
Speaker A:I didn't like it.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It's not the scariest I don't like about it.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I hate it when they just find about the stupid shit.
Speaker B:Like, it's all stupid shit.
Speaker B:But like, guys, we're at this again.
Speaker A:A whole episode of bickering gets old.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:The part that I get that got to me.
Speaker A:I mean, the bickering part part is annoying.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:But like, I just thought like, the premise of this ghost was really scary.
Speaker A:That's my wussy comment for the day.
Speaker A:I didn't like it.
Speaker A:Well, cryptoid.
Speaker A:But Crypto.
Speaker A:But still, like, it didn't.
Speaker A:Not in like the.
Speaker A:Oh my God, freaked out.
Speaker A:Cover my eyes.
Speaker A:Like, I didn't do that on this episode.
Speaker A:But like more like, I guess intellectually scary.
Speaker A:Does that make sense?
Speaker B:Should.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:But yeah, that's what I got.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I think the Krakata is a.
Speaker A:In supernatural world, a pretty freaky thing.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But in Liz's lore, they sound cuddly.
Speaker B:They sound adorable.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:I mean, they sound great.
Speaker B:So yeah, I mean, all for.
Speaker B:If I.
Speaker B:There's a crocodile outside come to be.
Speaker B:Come to me.
Speaker B:I'd be like, here, boy.
Speaker B:Here, Krakata.
Speaker B:Come here.
Speaker B:Yeah, let's cuddle.
Speaker B:Do you want to cuddle?
Speaker B:So all right.
Speaker B:Anything else you want to say on this?
Speaker B:You want to wrap it up?
Speaker A:That's all I got.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Cheers.
Speaker B:Jerk.
Speaker A:Cheers.
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